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Alex Rubit
October 12th, 2005, 04:39 PM
Stargate: Horizon - Season Two
"Troika"

"Troika"
Ep: 2.04
Release Date: October 13th 2005
Written by Joe Hodkiss & Alex Rubit

Following a devastating attack, a group of Tok'ra survivors arrives on Horizon with a surprising proposal.

Alex Rubit
October 13th, 2005, 01:09 PM
Okay, everyone. The episode has now been released, and is available right here! (http://www.stargatehorizon.com/syn.php?number=204).

Enjoy. And don't forget to stop back for comments and discussion! ;)

AzMcNeil
October 13th, 2005, 02:17 PM
OMG what a great episode. yet again you have all outdone yourselves :)

Quick question though...what was in that cargo ship to make such a large explosion? Did they overlaod it or something on impact?

Also, what was up with loral's eyes glowing...something seemed quite wrong with that. I thought that only happened when the symbiote was making it presence known?

Alex Rubit
October 13th, 2005, 02:26 PM
OMG what a great episode. yet again you have all outdone yourselves :)

Thanks. I'm really glad you liked this episode. There are definitely some major developments going on in this one.


Quick question though...what was in that cargo ship to make such a large explosion? Did they overlaod it or something on impact?

They only flew the ship right into the Enoly cruiser. That caused quite some damage, and disabled the Enoly cruiser. Since the small attack fighters are unmanned, they don't pose any threat as long as there's not mother-ship to control them. Similiar to how they were disabled at the ending of "Counterpoint.".

So, the Enoly vessel was just heavily damaged, and it was the Valiant that completely destroyed it. The cargo ship might have overloaded its engines to have a larger impact. However, we didn't go into any details, so we don't know that for sure. ;)

One thing is for sure, that must have been some very important research.


Also, what was up with loral's eyes glowing...something seemed quite wrong with that. I thought that only happened when the symbiote was making it presence known?

More on that in later episodes. There's an idea behind that, which I personally think will make for some nice developments, and contribute to Loral turning into quite an interesting villian. ;)

SierraGulf1
October 13th, 2005, 02:50 PM
I'm hearing from EAG that there are still spelling errors, looks like we'll need that script sueprvisor quite soon.

The episode itself was great. Lenori's back at last, and he's brought several Tok'ra with him. What will become of the Tok'ra race? And there's still the unanswered question in regards to what set off the explosion. I've psoted a summary at SGU.

Alex Rubit
October 13th, 2005, 03:23 PM
I'm hearing from EAG that there are still spelling errors, looks like we'll need that script sueprvisor quite soon.

I'm not surprised. Of course one or two spelling errors were overlooked. Maybe because we were way behind schedule with this one, and I only had about a couple of days to write the final draft. Maybe, just maybe, that's not the ideal way to work on an episode. But that only makes it more rewarding that people are liking it. :D


The episode itself was great. Lenori's back at last, and he's brought several Tok'ra with him. What will become of the Tok'ra race? And there's still the unanswered question in regards to what set off the explosion. I've psoted a summary at SGU.

Well, all Tok'ra that are left in the galaxy will be on Horizon from now on. They're currently homeless you could say, so Horizon is their new home. I'm sure everyone will be getting along just great. I wonder what will become of the Tok'ra in the long run. Who knows?

AzMcNeil
October 13th, 2005, 03:45 PM
Well, all Tok'ra that are left in the galaxy will be on Horizon from now on. They're currently homeless you could say, so Horizon is their new home. I'm sure everyone will be getting along just great. I wonder what will become of the Tok'ra in the long run. Who knows?

I bet you have a good idea on what happens to them though....am I right ;)

Alex Rubit
October 13th, 2005, 03:54 PM
I bet you have a good idea on what happens to them though....am I right ;)

It's possible that I might have a vague idea. But who knows these things for sure? ;)

SierraGulf1
October 13th, 2005, 06:02 PM
I do! :eek:

AzMcNeil
October 13th, 2005, 06:16 PM
You do?! Spill the beans SierraGulf1...spill them now :D

Alex Rubit
October 13th, 2005, 07:27 PM
Please let me know what happens to the Tok'ra, too. I'd love to know that. But I'll admit, we've been talking about one or two possibilities. Looking at this episode though, it's not looking all too good for them.

Hey, so it looks like Lenori is back after all. It looks like there'll be eight regulars. A pretty big cast. But when you think about it, didn't the character bios on the website did kind of give it away? ;)

Something I liked about this episode, and we realized we'd need to do it this way early on, is the fact that it does leave some unanswered questions. It ends in a way that I think has to make you wonder where this will be going. I guess one big question would have to be, how long is this treaty between the Vorians and the Kih'Andari seriously going to work out? This episode doesn't make it look as if it'll be able to be kept up forever. Unfortunately I'm not allowed to say any more at this point.

Elite Anubis Guard
October 14th, 2005, 08:24 AM
Well this episode was worth the wait. I quite enjoyed it and was pleasently surprised that the research wasn't told - I was afraid that that sub-story was gonna be like Revelations. It was certainly an interesting development for the series, having all three species on Horizon. It's bound to cause some trouble. I did notice more spelling and grammar mistakes since you now, understandably have no proof reader, but in all fantastic episode.

Alex Rubit
October 14th, 2005, 05:49 PM
Well this episode was worth the wait. I quite enjoyed it and was pleasently surprised that the research wasn't told - I was afraid that that sub-story was gonna be like Revelations. It was certainly an interesting development for the series, having all three species on Horizon. It's bound to cause some trouble. I did notice more spelling and grammar mistakes since you now, understandably have no proof reader, but in all fantastic episode.

I'm glad you liked the episode. With regard to the research, we do know exactly what it is, and why it's important for the Tok'ra. However, we decided to not reveal it by the end of this episode, since that would have seemed somewhat out of place. It will definitely be coming up again in some upcoming episodes, just like all the other storylines going on here.

By the way, that "28 hours a day" line wasn't a typing mistake. So, now we know that days on Vorian and on Horizon have 28 hours. What do you do with four additional hours, I wonder. ;)

AzMcNeil
October 16th, 2005, 12:50 PM
Wow... I just realized someone gave this episode a terrible rating and didn't even have the cajones to explain. At least back up why you do something insane like that, come on! :eek:

SierraGulf1
October 16th, 2005, 03:14 PM
They'll be eaten. Feel free to explain if you really disliked the episode, taking critisism is the greatest way of improving oneself, and it would be quite helpful in the future.

If you did it out of spite, I'll go back to my original point: You'll be eaten. :D

Alex Rubit
October 16th, 2005, 10:33 PM
This episode is amazing!!! Everyone who disagrees is completely out of their minds!!! Completely out of their minds!!! How dare you have another opinion?!!

Okay, I'll admit it. I was obviously just kidding.

But in general we could do with some more comments here actually. Come one, people, we do all the work, we know a lot of you are reading it, at least let us know what you think of the episodes. Tell us what you like. Tell us what you hate. Feel free to post positive or negative comments. Any comments are okay. Seriously. Don't hold back with anything. You wouldn't do that when commenting on SG-1 or SGA episodes, so no need to do it here. ;)

We're entering some very new territory this season, doing some things (as I've pointed out before) that haven't been done on Stargate before. I was wondering actually what people think about that; I'm referring to the Kih'Andari storyline, by the way. There'll be some interesting developments coming up as the season progresses. And, in addition to that, as I've also mentioned before, the series is taking on a more "classic Stargate feel," as I think is also starting to shine through at this point. The next episode will be one of those good old "go through the gate, get into trouble" episodes.

Anyway, I guess my point is, let's have some more episode discussions going on around here. ;)

StevetheWraith!
November 13th, 2005, 03:15 AM
Hey Alex and co. how ya doing? Wow I had myself a major SGH marathon on Friday! I read episodes 204 to 207 back to back! I would have loved to comment earlier on them (Alex you know how much of a SGH junkie I am!) but I had tons of college work that needed to be taken care off first :( .

I really enjoyed this episode primarily because it features the return of good ol' Doc Lenori!! The writing was excellent, as usual!, and the loss of 1000 Tok' Ra coupled with the menacing threat from the "Fish-Heads!" and you have yourself a blissfully wonderful 40 odd minutes. Great job guys. Now if you will excuse me, I have to go and catch up with my old friend Jay F!! :D

SierraGulf1
April 26th, 2006, 04:16 PM
I just reread this episode and realized how great it is (I can say this because at this point I had nothing to do with its creation).

I was reading some of the comments and questions earlier, and just thought I'd say that a few of the questions posed from Troika will be resolved in the upcoming Catch 22. It should explain a couple of things here, leave some unanswered, and perhaps raise a few more questions.

Lt. Colonel Ryu Gaia
April 26th, 2006, 06:17 PM
I'd just like to note, although I don't remember the episode very well, it left such an impression on me that I simply couldn't stop reading after it. It was, from what I remember, the best episode you guys have done. Period. :)

SierraGulf1
April 26th, 2006, 06:55 PM
I hope 2.21 can live up to that, being a decent follow-up to such a story. :cameron:

Alex Rubit
April 26th, 2006, 10:00 PM
I will say "Catch 22" will finally shed some light into that infamous glowing eyes ending of "Troika".

Elite Anubis Guard
June 14th, 2006, 10:13 AM
Well I re-read this. It was an interesting story, although it was a shame we didn't get more Gate exploration episodes early in the season. I really liked the way in which it brought the incidents from the last season together.

cheese
September 16th, 2006, 07:48 AM
Review

I actually read Troika about a week ago but have been extraordinarily busy recently, so I've had to slow down a bit with Season Two.

The Enoly making a move on the Tok'ra was excellent, Loral looks like she is going to fulfill her potential to develop into an awesome villain.

The Tok'ra moving to Horizon is an interesting addition to the mix.

Planet Selmak was a nice touch.

I was a little sorry to se the Tok'ra illness cured off-screen.

The station is sure taking an awful lot of damage in this season, which is in some ways good to see that Horizon is very much vulnerable and far from safe. The show is proving to be quite unpredictable.

The episode felt a bit too busy at times. There was a lot of information coming across.

Again some good threads were developed. Lenori/Christine, a possible spy, Loral, the Enoly in general and the Tok'ra's mystery research (my theory is they're trying to fix the no new Tok'ra problem),

Zach got on my nerves again, though his scene where he annoys the Tok'ra was pretty amusing.

Overall a fairly solid episode.

NoDot
September 16th, 2006, 07:16 PM
The Enoly making a move on the Tok'ra was excellent, Loral looks like she is going to fulfill her potential to develop into an awesome villain.No spoilers for you, but keep reading. I think you'll like it.


The show is proving to be quite unpredictable.You haven't seen the half of it! (Don't look at the end of the mid-season two parter, look later.)


(my theory is they're trying to fix the no new Tok'ra problem),Ditto.


Zach got on my nerves again, though his scene where he annoys the Tok'ra was pretty amusing.I've never been a fan of Zach either, unfortunately. I was hoping to, but 2x18 - Journalist's Day just didn't do anything to help that. I'm guessing he's the sort of character you just like or hate, with no middle ground.

SierraGulf1
September 17th, 2006, 12:33 PM
Unfortunately, certain scenes, and even an entire episode ("Journalist's Day") were meant to show a more serious, sympathetic side of Zach, but things turned out differently. Despite that, there might be some good things for Zach in the future (season three)?

Elite Anubis Guard
September 17th, 2006, 12:53 PM
Good things like serious injury? Lol

colonel O'Neill
January 21st, 2007, 12:50 PM
This episode was awesome.
It's so nice to see Lenori back at the station and also it was cool to see a little bit of the Tok'Ra again..it's been a while.
And the ending is so cool...it was nice to see a "familiar, yet quite unexpected" Goa'uld-like glowing eyes image.

:jack_new_anime18:

Senku
July 25th, 2007, 02:05 PM
First post :)

Good to see the good old annoying Tok'Ra around. I feel a bit surprised with all the new characters. All with a good background. I hate Zach's behaviour so far, but I'm sure that guy will have some... I'll say "quality moments".

Tom's background, Selmak's reminiscence, Walter and the ever intriguing Goa'uld glowing eyes... all very positive points.

Good to see my good old Doctor Lenori right back with the guys :D

jelgate
November 22nd, 2007, 05:45 PM
*Do Not Read If You Do Not Want To Be Spoiled*

Jelgate's Two Cents
I can gladly say that I enjoyed this episode. I really enjoyed to see the return of Lenori. I wonder if he will return to his position as the member of Horizon's medicial staff. Its really interesting to see that the the Tok'ra are now are living on the Horizon station. I bet the station will be come a lot busier. I wonder what was on the Tok'ra base that the Enloy wanted. A better question what is the Tok'ra object. It was interesting that Grant didn't take command of the Valiant. It was in his right. Admirals will sometimes take over a captains ship. Speaking of Sato, he showed brillant strategy. Maybe I wasn't paying attention in the Enloy S1 three parter but I didn't know that the smaller Enloy fighter were telepathically controlled by the larger Enloy crusier. Speaking of the Enloy, I was surpised that the symbiont was making Loral corrupt. If anything I thought it would make her kindhearted. And on to the B plot. I really like The NID in SG-1, so its no surprise that I enjoy the Kir'Alrahd. They really enjoy causing trouble for Horizon. Since they never found the agent who killed the Tok'ra, I bet the double agent is still on Horizon

Questions
1)How is the Enloy host able to control the symbiont
Chase: Hundreds of Tok’ra on the base. We should have a party.