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Calicto
July 9th, 2004, 12:39 PM
Well ChevronNine has screen-caps from the Lowdown which had scenes from "The Rising".

I was quite disappointed by how they made the Wraith...

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From the synopsis (by Beagle) and other information about the Wraith, I imagined a very powerful race. The synopsis stated that the Wraith sent down "phantoms" or illusions that were forced into the minds into the denizens of the region by the Wraith psychic ability. This notion seemed awesome and ridiculously powerful. The Wraith would be so powerful that they didnt send down real units but confused denizens with illusions that attacked people until their real units could "shock" them.

However, the clips show a group of Wraith soldiers (3-5?) and a male Wraith commander/leader. The Wraith soldiers in one clip are getting shot down just like ... Jaffa Warriors. I truly hope they just tripped and they get back up. However, the commander apparently does not get shot down.

In Beagle's synopsis, it was stated that Wraith soldiers were easily shot down with Earth weapons (unlike the care-taker, who was shot down with the Wraith stunner). This makes the enemy weak. The idea of the Wraith instilled fear in me as I have had multiple nightmares surrounding them. However, these facts have eased those fears and I hope they are incorrect.

The Goa'uld, when they were a good enemy (that instilled fear), became a lame enemy that was evil, but mostly obnoxious. The Replicators, seemed like a notorious enemy, until Earth measly trapped them and O'Neill creates an Anti-Replicator weapon. The Wraith seemed awesome .... something that truly killed the Ancients. The Ancients did truly prove their greatness, but from these things, the Wraith do not stand up to that greatness.

One of the sketches of a Wraith identifies the slit on both sides of their face near their nose as an additional sense that helps them locate prey. THAT instills fear. THAT makes a good enemy. Not lacky warriors that get mowed down by Earth's measle weapons.
I truly hope that I am incorrect and I hope someone can prove me wrong.

veneticuss
July 9th, 2004, 12:45 PM
Wonder who would read such a thick text> :)

David85
July 9th, 2004, 01:29 PM
It won't matter in a season or two they will just put the Wraith to "sleep" if no one likes them and introduce another pointless enemy.

Ice^^Heat
July 9th, 2004, 01:51 PM
Well ChevronNine has screen-caps from the Lowdown which had scenes from "The Rising".

I was quite disappointed by how they made the Wraith...

Spoilers:
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From the synopsis (by Beagle) and other information about the Wraith, I imagined a very powerful race. The synopsis stated that the Wraith sent down "phantoms" or illusions that were forced into the minds into the denizens of the region by the Wraith psychic ability. This notion seemed awesome and ridiculously powerful. The Wraith would be so powerful that they didnt send down real units but confused denizens with illusions that attacked people until their real units could "shock" them.

However, the clips show a group of Wraith soldiers (3-5?) and a male Wraith commander/leader. The Wraith soldiers in one clip are getting shot down just like ... Jaffa Warriors. I truly hope they just tripped and they get back up. However, the commander apparently does not get shot down.

In Beagle's synopsis, it was stated that Wraith soldiers were easily shot down with Earth weapons (unlike the care-taker, who was shot down with the Wraith stunner). This makes the enemy weak. The idea of the Wraith instilled fear in me as I have had multiple nightmares surrounding them. However, these facts have eased those fears and I hope they are incorrect.

The Goa'uld, when they were a good enemy (that instilled fear), became a lame enemy that was evil, but mostly obnoxious. The Replicators, seemed like a notorious enemy, until Earth measly trapped them and O'Neill creates an Anti-Replicator weapon. The Wraith seemed awesome .... something that truly killed the Ancients. The Ancients did truly prove their greatness, but from these things, the Wraith do not stand up to that greatness.

One of the sketches of a Wraith identifies the slit on both sides of their face near their nose as an additional sense that helps them locate prey. THAT instills fear. THAT makes a good enemy. Not lacky warriors that get mowed down by Earth's measle weapons.
I truly hope that I am incorrect and I hope someone can prove me wrong.

Actually Joe Flanigan said they come back to life.

Darren
July 9th, 2004, 02:21 PM
I don't think they'll be disappointing. They may fall down when you shoot them, but unlike Jaffa they'll get back up again. :)

Anubis
July 9th, 2004, 02:31 PM
I agree with Darren. They might be misunderstood

Stargate Agent
July 10th, 2004, 05:18 PM
Wait and see till you watch the show man. So much prejudgements before this show has actually aired. Just kick back and wait for a couple episodes and see how they do things...Sheesh

Anubis
July 11th, 2004, 12:31 AM
Hmmm...I think the wraith will have their qualities to differ from jeffa

IWantToBelieve
July 11th, 2004, 08:06 AM
You've had nightmares about the wraith? :eek:

I don't know...they look pretty scary to me. I wouldn't want to meet one!

Anubis
July 11th, 2004, 08:06 AM
I don't think I'd want to meet one, for a fact they're pretty ugly

aAnubiSs
July 11th, 2004, 08:10 AM
Looks has nothing to do with it. It's all about the inside!

I think I'm gonna love the Wraiths. If they use alot of ships that is!

SGSlugger
July 11th, 2004, 07:20 PM
I liked the part in the special when they said that they had to make the Wraith smart enough to defeat the Ancients, but dumb enough that we could defeat them on a daily basis. :D

I'm looking forward to them. They seem to be a really nifty enemy.

Beckmen
July 12th, 2004, 07:16 AM
From the Lowdown they seem pretty cheesy and not at all scary. And if you watch the actor's comments on them it seems like they are just saying what they were told. "The Wraith are really, scary..yeah." IE: "I think they are cheesy blue-makeup-wearing clowns, but TPTB want me to play them up."

But we'll have to wait until Friday before we truly find out. I remain cautiously pessimistic, as always. ;)

Anubis
July 12th, 2004, 07:22 AM
The Wraith look pretty cool, but not scary!

Nolamom
July 12th, 2004, 07:26 AM
I remain cautiously pessimistic, as always. ;)
Ah, see that's where we differ - I remain cautiously OPTIMISTIC.

Anubis
July 12th, 2004, 07:27 AM
lol Always

aAnubiSs
July 12th, 2004, 08:15 AM
SG:A seems good. Don't say ka 'til you tried it!

Anubis
July 12th, 2004, 08:23 AM
Well, I think I'll judge this a little early

aAnubiSs
July 12th, 2004, 08:33 AM
Hopefully the wraith aren't totally blonde!

Anubis
July 12th, 2004, 08:34 AM
I doubt it. I don't think they all will be

aAnubiSs
July 12th, 2004, 08:38 AM
I guess they have some smart things too:>

They call me Tim
July 12th, 2004, 09:04 AM
Well, here in lies the problem...people want really bad bad guys that are horrible, serious, and all that stuff....but at the same time they dont want any characters to die...this is the "I want my cake and eat it too" problem...how much room are we supposed to put for a spoiler? Well, if you dont want to read this then dont
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A lot of people didnt like when Janet died because it was too quick and she deserved better...but that was the point...that is how death is...if the Jaffa or Wraith were really good as many times as SG-1 have been captured one of them would have died by now...The bad guys cant be too good or they would kill everyone...TPTB cant kill anyone or make the bad guys bad enough because as Carter once said, "The goals are mutually exclusive" I like the Wraith so far, I like the replicators, but if any problem I have had is how quick the goa'ulds have been killed off esp Sokar...anywho, looking forward to Atlantis and am glad that Sg-1 is back

aAnubiSs
July 12th, 2004, 10:50 AM
I want 'good' guys to die. SG1 is supposed to be uniqe because it happens in our timeline. Well people die in wars, and so should SG-members.

It just isn't enough with "SG-2 was killed on planet X by the System Lord Y"

How about showing people die?

Ugly Pig
July 12th, 2004, 12:06 PM
How about showing people die?
They do show people die. Whenever SG-1 go off-world with other teams, I'd say there's about a 50 - 50 chance that one or more members of those teams won't make it back.

aAnubiSs
July 12th, 2004, 12:09 PM
Yes, but then the next episode another red shirt:P dies. Their lives has no meaning in the bigger picture... if you get what i'm saying.

Nolamom
July 12th, 2004, 12:12 PM
That's always been the existence of the science fiction extra - a life doomed to be short, end violently, and give the main characters a little bit to angst over. Redshirts, or whatever, it's the same all over.

Ugly Pig
July 12th, 2004, 12:15 PM
Yes, but then the next episode another red shirt:P dies. Their lives has no meaning in the bigger picture... if you get what i'm saying.
I don't know... Are you saying you want the main characters to die? Because that would end the show pretty fast, you know. :p

Or do you mean secondary characters, who don't just die five minutes after they're introduced? If so - TPTB have been killing those guys off left and rigth since season 5.

I don't know what else they can do. No offense, but I don't think you've quite thought this through. :)

aAnubiSs
July 12th, 2004, 12:18 PM
In B5 Kosh died, Marcus died. They were main characters.

I don't mean we should kill them every week. But pretending that Jack might die in Heroes 2 is silly. Everyone knows he isn't going to die, and that removes one element of the show :)

Ugly Pig
July 12th, 2004, 02:03 PM
In B5 Kosh died, Marcus died. They were main characters.
As of right now, SG-1 has a regular cast of only 4. There isn't room to trim it down!

Anubis
July 12th, 2004, 11:07 PM
There is already a cast of 4 MAIN people, we don't want to cut it down even more. Besides, it would only start more complaints

Nolamom
July 13th, 2004, 05:50 AM
OH NO! You can't mean that you want to bump off Chevron Guy!!!????!!! Or perhaps Sgt. Siler? That would be too cruel for words...

spiceweasel
July 15th, 2004, 03:58 PM
I too thought the Wraith looked too campy from the previews. Blue does not translater well as a skin color on TV. But oh well. Bring on the premire!

aAnubiSs
July 15th, 2004, 04:30 PM
Actually I was thinking more in the lines of Fluffy!

JUST KIDDING!

One way to do it would be:

SG-whatever is captured by random System Lord.
SG-1 + 2 other teams are sent to rescue them.
Ends up with SG-whatever + the 2 other teams dying.

Then we would see how SG1 handles the emotions that would come after that defeat.

One wouldn't lose any main characters but they would still have to deal with the loss.
More then they've shown mourning some some other character!

Calicto
July 15th, 2004, 05:35 PM
I agree with aAnubiSs... I want people to die. I want the enemy to be sooo evil and powerful that it seems like we dont have a chance. And then the Genii become our nemesis. But above the Genii are the Wraith.

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Doggett ('s actor) dies in pilot. So does a bunch of SG members when Wraith attack Athos. That's what im talking about.

Selmak
July 16th, 2004, 08:58 AM
I saw some Wraith get shot... they don't fall down... that's cool!

GhostPoet
July 16th, 2004, 09:24 AM
Well ChevronNine has screen-caps from the Lowdown which had scenes from "The Rising".

I was quite disappointed by how they made the Wraith...

Spoilers:
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.
.
.
.
.
.
..
.
.

.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.

From the synopsis (by Beagle) and other information about the Wraith, I imagined a very powerful race. The synopsis stated that the Wraith sent down "phantoms" or illusions that were forced into the minds into the denizens of the region by the Wraith psychic ability. This notion seemed awesome and ridiculously powerful. The Wraith would be so powerful that they didnt send down real units but confused denizens with illusions that attacked people until their real units could "shock" them.

However, the clips show a group of Wraith soldiers (3-5?) and a male Wraith commander/leader. The Wraith soldiers in one clip are getting shot down just like ... Jaffa Warriors. I truly hope they just tripped and they get back up. However, the commander apparently does not get shot down.

In Beagle's synopsis, it was stated that Wraith soldiers were easily shot down with Earth weapons (unlike the care-taker, who was shot down with the Wraith stunner). This makes the enemy weak. The idea of the Wraith instilled fear in me as I have had multiple nightmares surrounding them. However, these facts have eased those fears and I hope they are incorrect.

The Goa'uld, when they were a good enemy (that instilled fear), became a lame enemy that was evil, but mostly obnoxious. The Replicators, seemed like a notorious enemy, until Earth measly trapped them and O'Neill creates an Anti-Replicator weapon. The Wraith seemed awesome .... something that truly killed the Ancients. The Ancients did truly prove their greatness, but from these things, the Wraith do not stand up to that greatness.

One of the sketches of a Wraith identifies the slit on both sides of their face near their nose as an additional sense that helps them locate prey. THAT instills fear. THAT makes a good enemy. Not lacky warriors that get mowed down by Earth's measle weapons.
I truly hope that I am incorrect and I hope someone can prove me wrong.


Actually, I on the lowdown they said that after the wraith get mowed down...they get back up. They are so hard to kill.

That was in the lowdown.

Selmak
July 16th, 2004, 09:27 AM
It kind of reminded me of the Unas when they get shot.

GhostPoet
July 16th, 2004, 11:07 AM
It kind of reminded me of the Unas when they get shot.

True...I think that makes them a lot more imposing as a bad guy...slowly getting up after they fall.

But...do Wraith warriors regenerate I wonder?

DoctorTealc
October 27th, 2004, 03:15 AM
I agree the Wraith are a bit weak. The Wraith attack vessels in Rising(2) - Don't they have advanced shields? How could a bazooka down one of them? And after all this time they still can't counter the Ancient drones...

WraithWarrior
November 9th, 2004, 06:28 AM
There needs to be more death in SGA because for every episode I have seen there has only been one death and the Atlantis team have been in trouble but has always came out of it unharmed (well harmed but will be back to normal very soon).

Also the Wraith needs to appear in more episodes seen as they only appear for brief parts of the episode and need to be made more evil and powerful.

I know this is now going off the subject a bit but why is it that in each episode the main team is the only team shown. They should have it so that on some episodes in he series, they show scenes of other teams, say on other planets as well as the main team (Sheppards team)

LordMartin
November 9th, 2004, 08:29 AM
I thought all Wraith have regenerative capabilities. Maybe they cannot regenerate without a certain level of "Lifeforce" energy or whatever they call it. I personally like the Wraith, they appear to be a formitable enemy. Or course there has to be some angle that the Atlantis Team will come up with that hasn't be tried already. Probably biological in nature if I had to guess.