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Thoth
July 9th, 2004, 05:25 AM
SG1-all of s7 SPOILERS and End-game (Voyager)











I was just wondering. If Anubis still had his Eyes of Ra, Osiris, Apophis, etc. and was still alive and had all of the Asgard technology implemented into his Flag-ship. The Borg, having not being cripped by Janeway in Endgame and not having any of the future Starfleet technology that Admiral Janeway brought, like Trans-phasic (sp?) torpedos and armor.
Who would win?

Mio
July 9th, 2004, 06:35 AM
Anubis. His eyes would do what Species err....8274? did to their ships, only faster, and with lightning effects which arc from ship to ship....oooh....ahhh...

AgentX
July 9th, 2004, 07:39 AM
If the U.S.S. Voyager and her crew can defeat a handful of cubes in the 4 years they had known them, without any trips back to the Federation I see Anubis having no problem having the resources of his entire legion defeating the Borg.

Janus
July 9th, 2004, 10:41 AM
But the Borg would modify their technology to compensate for all the advanced stuff Anubis has.
And in the end for them it's much easier to replace their losses.
Just assimilate another planet.
Anubis would win the first couple of battles, but then he'd start losing.

And don't expect the Federation and the Klingons to just sit on their buts if this were to happen.

DownFallAngel
July 9th, 2004, 03:19 PM
Hmmm Anubis. The cloak is just to cool. He would win cause he is more stylish.

Mio
July 9th, 2004, 07:07 PM
Hmmm Anubis. The cloak is just to cool. He would win cause he is more stylish.
Agreed. The Borg wouldn't stand a chance against Anubis's overwhelming coolness.

DownFallAngel
July 9th, 2004, 07:09 PM
"Resistance is futile." is so outdated.

"Take action if you dare." is such a better "i'm about to take over your planet type of line."

Fifth
July 9th, 2004, 07:30 PM
The Borg would definatly win this fight. Since almost all of the non-human weapons are energy, the borg can just modify their shields to block it out. Also, it wasn't because of species 8792's weapons that the borg couldn't kill them. It was because their cells are too dense for normal borg probes to infest. The jaffa of anubis don't have that defense.

DownFallAngel
July 9th, 2004, 07:33 PM
Anubis could just wipe them all out at once. And since he is partly acended, he can just come up with some type of tech to counter the effects of the personal shield modifications.

Thoth
July 10th, 2004, 06:44 AM
But how long would it take for the Borg to adapt. I mean, Voyager's weapons still effected Cubes. And surely Anubis could just re-configure his big-honking space-gun or just put the eyes in a different order.

The main problem for Nubby is that the Borg could beam onto his ship and assimilate his Jaffa, unless the Jaffa have a natural immunity to Nano-technology. Even if he couldn't assimilate the Jaffa, they should be able to assimilate the technology. But they'd need to actually take over the ship because they can't duplicate the eyes. But, of course, Nubby can't be assimilated because he's ascended. They should be able to over-ride Tel'tak (is that the right part of the ship) and control the ship anyway. Then they should be able to destroy Nubby's force-field and force him to float around. Defences wouldn't be able to effect the drones going onto the ship after a while cos they'd adapt.

He'd also be out-gunned. The borg could send all their cubes to fight him and surely then he would not be able to survive. Asgard shieds are powerful but not that powerful.

Any contradictions? There should be cos I want Nubby to win, god damn it! :p

Janus
July 10th, 2004, 08:40 AM
But how long would it take for the Borg to adapt. I mean, Voyager's weapons still effected Cubes.

Actually, by the end of "End Game" the Borg had already adapted to Voyager's future armour, so it wouldn't be that long until they figured out a way to block the weapons.

dec55
July 12th, 2004, 08:48 PM
Anubus is part Ascendant......the Borg are simply too primative to adapt to this physiology.....His power is more than just mechanical....it is almost supernatural.


Most likely he would get a gould to take over the Borg Queen and it is game over.....He will just order the silly primative Borgs to self destruct their bulky cubes and turn into space dust......

Tom Servo
July 13th, 2004, 09:10 AM
The borg would win. They have the ability to adapt and the sheer number of them is astounding. Yes, because Anubis is acsended he is quite powerful, but to borg could easily overrun him, assimilating his own troops as they went along. It would only be a matter of time, but the fight would be massive.

BTW, "Resistance is futile" is the best one liner ever. Especially the way the borg say it with their echoing voices.

Janus
July 13th, 2004, 11:49 AM
BTW, "Resistance is futile" is the best one liner ever. Especially the way the borg say it with their echoing voices.

And don't forget 'Assimilate this !'
It's anti-Borg slogan, but also very cool :cool: ;)

LordAnubis
July 28th, 2004, 03:58 PM
The borg would win. They have the ability to adapt and the sheer number of them is astounding. Yes, because Anubis is acsended he is quite powerful, but to borg could easily overrun him, assimilating his own troops as they went along. It would only be a matter of time, but the fight would be massive.

BTW, "Resistance is futile" is the best one liner ever. Especially the way the borg say it with their echoing voices.
Ya but Anubis' Kull Warriors would kick the butts outta the Borg drones. Plus, Anubis would have no fear of the Queen and would prolly kick her a$$ back to Unimatrix. I'm so glad to see so many peeps support Anubis, the coolest of all cools.

aschen
July 28th, 2004, 04:13 PM
An00b is of course. :P I've always gotten the impression that the ST captains are hesitant to fight, and even when they do they barely do any damage. That electrical lightning thing he uses would wipe them clean off the face of the universe.

LordAnubis
July 28th, 2004, 04:16 PM
An00b is of course. :P I've always gotten the impression that the ST captains are hesitant to fight, and even when they do they barely do any damage. That electrical lightning thing he uses would wipe them clean off the face of the universe.
Exactly - if ur gonna kick some borg butt, then do it and be done with it. ST captains need to be more like Kirk and less like Picard, although Janeway didn't mind a lil a$$ kickin now and then. I wouldn't mind seeing Adm. Janeway meeting Gen. O'Neill, that would be cool dialog.

aschen
July 28th, 2004, 04:19 PM
Hey, don't diss on Picard. He wasn't as dramatic as Kirk... Or maybe it's just the acting. Janeway def kicked some a$$, but I think a part of that was due to her gender. A female captain think they have more to prove than a male.

The only captain I never really liked was Sisco. That guy is a frikkin sissy.

LordAnubis
July 28th, 2004, 05:43 PM
Hey, don't diss on Picard. He wasn't as dramatic as Kirk... Or maybe it's just the acting. Janeway def kicked some a$$, but I think a part of that was due to her gender. A female captain think they have more to prove than a male.

The only captain I never really liked was Sisco. That guy is a frikkin sissy.
yah, you're right...Picard was one classy captain; intelligent, witty, charming, and he could be a bad a$$ when he needed to be. I still like that line, when the Cardassian Obsidian Order dude was torturing him:

Cardassian dude (same actor who played Chancellor Gorkon): "How many lights are there, human?" There were five lights, but his torture was supposed to make Capt. Picard say "Four", but instead, after hours of grueling torture, kept saying, in that deep brit accent: "THERE ARE FIVE LIGHTS! FIVE! FIVE LIGHTS!"

I'll never forget that scene. Very powerful and very un-TNG.

O'Neill was just as defiant, but with humour, in "Abyss" when Lord Ba'al was torturing him and Daniel couldn't "interfere". Damn anscients.

Torley
July 28th, 2004, 08:44 PM
LOL... Sisko talked loud... I wouldn't say he was a sissy though. Remember that time he essentially poisoned a planet o' Maquis to get back at Eddington? That was pretty vicious.

Andy867
July 29th, 2004, 08:27 AM
The thing with the Bord Shield modifications is still one of physics, plus you have to consider that the Super Soldiers would board a Borg Cube and wipe out the Bord before they knew what hit them. And with the shields, like I was saying before, you cant ignore physics in that if he still had the eyes to power his big honking space gun would obliterate the borg cube in one shot, no questions asked. Its like when the self-destruct went off on the alpha site in Death Knell, even the super soldiers advanced armor couldnt ignore the physics of a blast of that magnitude, so neither can a borg ship if it were to be hit by Anubis' advanced weapon, plus the shields of Anubis' ship appeared to be very advanced (having him have knowledge of ancient's shield technology possibly). So IMO, Anubis would own the Borg easily.

aschen
July 29th, 2004, 09:08 AM
We all know they'd never be able to actually watch a show or movie like this. The producers and writers are all geeks at heart. They'd be like "No! My fictional being is stronger! No! A what?? Oh come on! That is so far fetched!"

Andy867
July 29th, 2004, 01:05 PM
FAN FILM then!!:) though, even those people would be bias, seeing as how you cant love both STARGATE AND STARGATE and remain unopiniated (unless you are the NOX, who can love everythign and everyone, even the goa'uld, and be protected from bias opinions.)

Thoth
July 31st, 2004, 09:59 AM
Ok, now that we've worked out that Anubis would win hands down, who would you prefer to win. If the winner of this battle was gonna control Earth who would you root for. You'd be a slave or a host if Nubby one, the possibility of rebellion would exist. Or you'd br part of the collective with no possibility of uprise.
I'd prefer serving Nubby so that we could rebel after a while and kick his ass back to Ancient-ville. :p

UltraMarioMan
August 1st, 2004, 01:51 PM
Anubis. No matter how well the Borg shields adapt if enough energy were thrown at them , overload, shields collapse, cube go boom.

Crazedwraith
August 2nd, 2004, 03:01 AM
Ya but Anubis' Kull Warriors would kick the butts outta the Borg drones. Plus, Anubis would have no fear of the Queen and would prolly kick her a$$ back to Unimatrix. I'm so glad to see so many peeps support Anubis, the coolest of all cools.
This is Anubis circa "Full Circle" he aint got his hands on Jonas yet and has no Kull Warriors. Besides Borg Drones have shown great ability to adabate to and render useless energy hand weapons, it's kinetic enegy they can't do.


though, even those people would be bias, seeing as how you cant love both STARGATE AND STARGATE and remain unopiniatedYou wanna check thta Andy? It quite possible to love Stargate and Stargate considering their the same thing ;)

Basically Stargate has superior fire power to the Borg but porperly inferior numbers of ships.

Still I'd give this to Anubis.

Jprime
August 4th, 2004, 02:02 PM
Ok sure Anubis has freaking good shields and weapons, but all your scenarios are dependant on Anubis' ship facing off against one Borg cube. Sure Anubis would whup them for the fist few battles, but after a while thousands of Borg vessels would eventually take the upper hand.

FYI it was species 8472 that beat up the Borg.

Andy867
August 4th, 2004, 04:44 PM
You wanna check thta Andy? It quite possible to love Stargate and Stargate considering their the same thing ;)


Still I'd give this to Anubis.

I meant Stargate and Star Trek, but it was probably late when I typed that message so.

SP90
October 24th, 2004, 05:03 PM
I agree that given enough energy (like the super weapon Anubis used at Abydos), even Borg shields will fail. But if the entire Collective came down on Anubis, I think he'll turn into a free floating dark cloud pretty soon. The Borg has way more ships than Anubis could ever field even if he took over some of the forces from the other System Lords. The Borg collective controls hundreds if not thousands of worlds. Plus the Borg has a transwarp network, a very useful tool when you could move dozen or more ships clear across the galaxy within minutes.

In hand to hand combat, the Kull soldiers will be protected from any energy or projectile weapons because of their armor. The Borg's own assimilation tubes however can penetrate any alloy and energy field according to the Doctor. So I can see the Borg assimilate the Kull soldiers. The symbiot might try to fight off the nanoprobes but in the end it will loose once it becomes assimilated as well. The staff/zat/Kull turbo blasters will be useless after the first few engagements. I don't see them as versatile as Starfleet phasers where you could remodulate frequencies and do all that cool techno babble stuff to it.

I don't think Anubis himself will ever be assimilated. He might be captured and contained in a forcefield. Perhaps the Borg will learn the secrets of ascension from Anubis himself.

wolfax
September 17th, 2006, 07:18 AM
I agree that given enough energy (like the super weapon Anubis used at Abydos), even Borg shields will fail. But if the entire Collective came down on Anubis, I think he'll turn into a free floating dark cloud pretty soon. The Borg has way more ships than Anubis could ever field even if he took over some of the forces from the other System Lords. The Borg collective controls hundreds if not thousands of worlds. Plus the Borg has a transwarp network, a very useful tool when you could move dozen or more ships clear across the galaxy within minutes.

In hand to hand combat, the Kull soldiers will be protected from any energy or projectile weapons because of their armor. The Borg's own assimilation tubes however can penetrate any alloy and energy field according to the Doctor. So I can see the Borg assimilate the Kull soldiers. The symbiot might try to fight off the nanoprobes but in the end it will loose once it becomes assimilated as well. The staff/zat/Kull turbo blasters will be useless after the first few engagements. I don't see them as versatile as Starfleet phasers where you could remodulate frequencies and do all that cool techno babble stuff to it.

I don't think Anubis himself will ever be assimilated. He might be captured and contained in a forcefield. Perhaps the Borg will learn the secrets of ascension from Anubis himself.
Assended borg, a scary thought.