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GateWorld
September 20th, 2005, 08:44 PM
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Michael and Sawyer brave the open water after the raft is destroyed, with no sign of Jin. Locke follows Kate into the hatch, only to find himself a prisoner of its enigmatic resident.

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NowIWillDestroyAbydos
September 28th, 2005, 06:01 PM
I only watched last 15 minutes and it was okay. I've actually never watched Lost this long, the longest I've watched it before tonight was about 2 minutes or so.

ShadowMaat
September 28th, 2005, 06:10 PM
HA! I was right!! Desmond was supposed to be rotated out! :D

And what did one snowman say to the other? Nice to snow you. Or maybe ice to meet you? Probably the latter.

For a minute, I was thinking the beasties from Surface had shown up on Lost. LOL! Funny crossover.

And it looks as though the St. Sebastian's/plague thing might be playing in, too. Whatever "sickness" it was, it obviously got the French team.

A STUFFED POLAR BEAR!! I wonder if mummy not-so-dearest ever gave it to Walt?

And I still say that the shelter was designed for more than one. At least two beds, a ping pong table, ample seating at the table....

Ha on the "Udders!" And then the scary horde descending. Actually made me think of a Galactica vs. Pegasus scenario. But I betcha the "others" are the ones affected by the sickness... and that members of the French team are probably in it.

Will post more if I can think of what else I'm trying to remember. Sorry for the incoherence. :D

Quartz
September 28th, 2005, 06:16 PM
Pretty good. At one point I feared for some of the characters. :o

They sure made us wait to find about Jin, and they didn't do much to advance the Desmond story. A little bit, yes, but we at least found out what happened to Kate. That was close! Then Claire found Charlie's Madonna statuette! Uh-oh.

I didn't notice the logo on the shark! Wish I had Tivo...

Sawyer is a survivor. If anyone's gonna get off the island, it's him. ******* :p (Now watch him get killed in the next episode :rolleyes: )

Overall I enjoyed it, can't wait for next Wednesday.

ShadowMaat
September 28th, 2005, 06:19 PM
You don't need to spoilerize an ep on its discussion thread. It's kind of taken as a given that an ep discussion thread will be discussing the ep. People read it at their own risk. :P

Good thing, too, seeing as you typoed it. :D

So! Who's got the skinny on Apollo bars?

FoolishPleasure
September 28th, 2005, 06:22 PM
Poor Desmond. He's been down there for an awfully long time, and he doesn't seem very stable. He didn't know anything about the plane crash either, which was odd. Questions:

Wondering if whoever left him there has forgotten about him.

What happens when he runs out of food?

Does he have any way out or was he stuck there until someone "relieved" him?

If he has to reset that computer every 108 minutes, he sure doesn't get any good sleep. Or was that every 108 hours?

Any thoughts on the company logo that was plastered everywhere? Seems like the whole island was some sort of experiment.

What are those damned numbers!!! :p

defina91rvc
September 28th, 2005, 06:25 PM
when the shark swam by, the logo that was on all the food, and one DESMOND'S JUMPSUIT PATCH WAS TATOOED ONTO THE SHARK FIN. who else caught it?

ShadowMaat
September 28th, 2005, 06:25 PM
Answered my own question:

from the Encyclopedia Mythica:


The son of Zeus and Leto, and the twin brother of Artemis. Apollo was the god of music (principally the lyre, and he directed the choir of the Muses) and also of prophecy, colonization, medicine, archery (but not for war or hunting), poetry, dance, intellectual inquiry and the carer of herds and flocks. He was also a god of light, known as "Phoebus" (radiant or beaming, and he was sometimes identified with Helios the sun god). He was also the god of plague and was worshiped as Smintheus (from sminthos, rat) and as Parnopius (from parnops, grasshopper) and was known as the destroyer of rats and locust, and according to Homer's Iliad, Apollo shot arrows of plague into the Greek camp. Apollo being the god of religious healing would give those guilty of murder and other immoral deeds a ritual purification. Sacred to Apollo are the swan (one legend says that Apollo flew on the back of a swan to the land of the Hyperboreans, he would spend the winter months among them), the wolf and the dolphin. His attributes are the bow and arrows, on his head a laurel crown, and the cithara (or lyre) and plectrum. But his most famous attribute is the tripod, the symbol of his prophetic powers.

Again, the plague reference. And Helios... the nuber 108 was written on the sun.

And it cracks me up that when confronted by all that food, the thing she grabs are candy bars. LOL!

Random aside, did anyone else notice that in the previous ep, when Jack was in Sara's room and she said she could move her toes? The time was approximately 2:30. Nifty. :)

Does anyone have a screencap of the logo so we can find out what corporation Desmond works for?

I just hope it isn't the Umbrella Corp. ;)

ShadowMaat
September 28th, 2005, 06:28 PM
I took it that the countdown with the computer was tripped by Jack setting off an alarm.
No, it counts down every 108 minutes. Hence last week's ep when it starts off with the warning BEEP BEEP BEEP and he goes and enters the code. That was BEFORE the hatch blew. Normal procedure. And it was way too ingrained in Desmond for it to have been a "security breach" thing. No, something awful will happen if those numbers aren't entered...

manybleemsago
September 28th, 2005, 06:33 PM
I know I'm with Kate - first thing I'd grab is the chocolate bar. :) My husband loved that scene - said not every show would have a scene like that. That's one of the things we love about this show.

I love Locke - dang, he is sneaky. LOL

I'm wondering if some of the others are descendents of slaves marooned from the Black Rock.

FoolishPleasure
September 28th, 2005, 06:36 PM
I would have grabbed the chocolate too! *LOL*

I'm with "bleems". . .the Black Rock descendents are the "others".

Thermonuclearboy
September 28th, 2005, 07:19 PM
Desmond's jumpsuit patch looks to be based on a design from the I-Ching, the Chinese book of divining. The design represent the trigrams used by fortune tellers. Each trigram is a combination of three whole or broken lines which represents a basic elemental force. Two trigrams combined form a hexagram, which is supposed to represent the forces acting mostly strongly upon you at the time of the reading. A fortune teller would roll a set of prepared bones or sticks which would form a hexagram, and that would tell you where you are spiritually and what course of action would be most likely to succeed.

It's no accident, I think, that the numbers Desmond has to enter seem to be associated with luck and coincidence. Bad, seemingly random things happen in the presence of the numbers, and whatever Desmond's computer is doing seems to be holding something even worse at bay. There's something weird and cosmic going on in that bunker, man...

dsigal
September 28th, 2005, 07:25 PM
I watched the shark scene frame by frame, as hard as I tried I did not see any logo on the shark's fin. Kick ass episode though!

Absolution
September 28th, 2005, 07:36 PM
When I think I saw it it wasn't on a fin, it wasn't quite down on it's tail on the side. It's about 10-20 seconds before Michael shoots it as it quickly swims underwater, from left to right, in front of the camera.

I saw something on the shark when I watched the ep.

Then I came on the hockey board I usually go to where they have a thread on it and someone else saw it, which was corroborated by someone who said he saw pics of it on another board.

Then I came here and saw that someone else saw it.

There is something

LoneStar1836
September 28th, 2005, 08:09 PM
No, something awful will happen if those numbers aren't entered...The island explodes. :D

Damn. I missed the first 30 minutes cause the tv station lost power to its transmitter. Grrr....

Interesting that Desmond made some comment about the world still being there or something similar when Locke was telling him about the plane crash and that he was flying from Australia to U.S. Maybe the guy thought everybody else was dead but him.

ShadowMaat
September 28th, 2005, 08:24 PM
Interesting that Desmond made some comment about the world still being there or something similar when Locke was telling him about the plane crash and that he was flying from Australia to U.S. Maybe the guy thought everybody else was dead but him.
I'm glad you read it that way, too. Because technically, "They're still out there?" could mean the other survivors of the crash, but I immediately interpreted it as more of a "the world didn't end?" sort of thing.

Jonas
September 28th, 2005, 08:27 PM
http://lost.cubit.net/pics/lostSharkb.jpg


Got this from another forum. Didnt noticed it when I watched the show though. Interesting.

alaskannut
September 29th, 2005, 12:52 AM
I'm not 100% sure but I think I saw the logo that was on all of the food jars on the shark as it swam by. Does anyone have a Tivo recording and can check? I saw it about 10-20 seconds before Michael shot it with the gun. Also, what does the logo say? I couldn't make it out on my TV.
I can't tell what it says...but its definitely there...looks like an octagon with some sort of indistinct writing within its borders

GateGeak
September 29th, 2005, 09:45 AM
I'm glad you read it that way, too. Because technically, "They're still out there?" could mean the other survivors of the crash, but I immediately interpreted it as more of a "the world didn't end?" sort of thing.

I watched the episode twice already and thought Desmond said, "The world is still out there?" I gathered he said this to Lock because it was right after he said, "a flight Syndey to LA?" Maybe he thinks the "sickness" had probably spread worldwide by now due to the amount of time he has been in the bunker.

Hex.FTB.enabled
September 29th, 2005, 10:25 AM
Loved the chocolate scene. And was COMPELTELY creeped out by the stuffed polar bear. But that scene made me wonder if Walt's mom knows something (anything) about Walt's "powers." She seemed to generally still care about Michael, and a friend I was watching with observed "it's almost like she's taking him away because she's scared, not because she wants to."
And maybe I'm reading waaaaaay too much into things, but pairing up Michael and Sawyer with their respective daddy issues seemed brilliant.
Also, the number 4 popped up a lot this episode...

VirtualCLD
September 29th, 2005, 12:18 PM
I'm such an idiot. When I noticed the manual reset of the timer I though, "I nkow that computer equipment is old, but reseting a timer automatically shouldn't be that hard to implement." But then I realized that it's probably rigged for manual reset b/c it insures that someone who is supposed to be there is still alive and well. Otherwise, if it's someone who isn't supposed to be there, or if something bad happens to the person who is supposed to be there then some sort of "self-destruct" or "containment" protocol is innacted.

I also interpreted the line "They're still out there?" as "You mean people are still alive on Earth. At first, I thought the invisible monster, the tattooed sharks, etc... were all part of a security system to prevent infected people from getting off the island or getting into the hatch. Now I'm starting to think (as someone else suggested), that the island wasn't quarantined but the entire world was. And the security system is there to prevent the infected (possibly crazy/homicidal as indicated by "The others") from getting onto the island and into the hatch. But if that's the case, who's supposed to relieve Desmond?

I was disapointed we didn't get to see past where the first episode ended, but hopefully we'll get a little further with the next episode.

ShadowMaat
September 29th, 2005, 01:10 PM
I'm reminded, strangely, of Millennium's S2 finale. It ends with the main character and his family hiding out in a shack in the woods while the world descends into madness as a plague runs rampant, killing millions of people (including the guy's wife suiciding when she thought she'd "caught it").

Then, S3 starts and it turns out that while there was a lot of panic, not that many people actually died and it was all just a massive overreaction. ...And a major cop out, IMO, but then, no one thought there WOULD be a 3rd season. ;)

Anyway, maybe Lost has something similar going on, where everyone (or The Corporation) thought there was a disaster and prepared for the worst and then just forgot about Desmond.

Or, Dessie's replacement was killed by the security system/the others/random chance.

OR, in a fit of cosmic irony, one of Hurley's personal jinxes was also responsible for wiping out The Corporation or the replacement guy or whatever. :D

This is going to be an interesting season. :)

SG1Atlantis
September 29th, 2005, 01:20 PM
Well something had to happen to Desomond's replacement, if there was one, cuz there were a whole lot of tally marks on that wall. Also, does anybody else think that Desmond might have had a feeling that Kate was in the vent and not tied up anymore cuz its too much of a coincedence for him to shoot there. And why'd he put on the music? I mean he told Locke to keep quiet and has been holding him at gunpoint. Even Locke would listen to that. Maybe he put it on, cuz again, he knew Kate was loose and didnt want Jack to hear her screaming, which he didn't.

KatG
September 29th, 2005, 01:30 PM
I loved that with all the food to choose from Kate chose the chocolate. A girl after my own heart. :)

Sawyer and Michael on the raft were fantastic. Really good acting from both of them. The flashback scenes with Michael and Walt nearly ripped my heart out and then when Michael was sobbing on the raft - wow, kudos to Harold Perrineau for an outstanding performance.

Can't wait until next week to finally find out a bit more about "the others".

ShadowMaat
September 29th, 2005, 01:43 PM
And why'd he put on the music? I mean he told Locke to keep quiet and has been holding him at gunpoint.
He did it to cover up noise in general, so that if anyone shouted a warning to Jack, it wouldn't be heard, so that if Jack shouted anything, it wouldn't be heard, and most importantly of all... so he could sneak up on Jack without his knowing it. :)

Vee
September 29th, 2005, 02:45 PM
So I had mixed feelings about this episode. It was good, but I'm disappointed it didn't go past the events of last week's show. Still, it was good to receive some type of explanation for the events in the hatch. The countdown thoroughly creeped me out. I'm not sure I want to know what would happen if it hadn't been reset. Of course knowing Lost it may be another season or two before we find out.

I'm so glad my boy Sawyer is all right. Relatively speaking anyway. I didn't actually notice the image on the shark as I was watching. What was that about? Does it have anything to do with Desmond? The others? Is it some secret bio-engineered creature that will one day rise up out of the ocean and kill them all?

Michael's flashbacks were appropriate, if nothing else. I didn't feel they revealed too much that I wouldn't have already speculated. It was touching that he was able to see Walt. I guess I'm just not very sentimental so I wasn't as moved by Walt's departure as I probably should have been.

The only major problem I had with episode was Hurley withdrawal. I know not every character can be in every episode, but I was missing the cursed castaway. Hopefully he'll be around a bit more next week.

memnarch
September 29th, 2005, 06:20 PM
I apologize if the theories I express here have been repeated. They were formulated prior to visiting this forum and I just thought I'd share them, see if any of them hadn't been thought up yet.

Okay. #1: Those folks ain't the Others (duh! you probably all already know that). #2: The disease that afflicted Roussou's team is likely the disease that Desmond was worried about. Desmond was likely placed inside the Hatch, at an indeterminable point as a contingency plan should this sickness spread to the whole planet. The "him" that Desmond thought Locke was was likely a representative who was supposed to be sent to Desmond to report some information. #3: The numbers!!!! They're the sequence put into the computer and they add up to the total time that was reset, 108. The question is, what's the timer for? My guess is that it's a nuke reactor that also supplies the power for the Hatch.


That's all I got...

Qtyled
September 30th, 2005, 12:29 AM
Good Episode. Liked it how it was in the same timeframe as the previous episode, but showed different events.

What does the 108 countdown to?
And what is the answer to desmond's question: "What did one snowman say to the other snowman?"

I was looking at the symbol on the shark, desmonds shirt and heaps of stuff in the hatch:
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/4361/picture16mr.th.png (http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture16mr.png)

It appears to say dharma...
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=dharma&x=22&y=16
1 Hinduism : an individual's duty fulfilled by observance of custom or law
2 Hinduism & Buddhism a : the basic principles of cosmic or individual existence : divine law b : conformity to one's duty and nature

Check out the wikipedia entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dharma

The cosmic order bit of it seems very reminesent of the numbers and all the wierd things happening on the island. The Individual's duty also sounds like Lock's destiny...

Anubis
September 30th, 2005, 10:58 AM
Yet another sweet episode. I was surprised to see a Michael/Walt (if you really count him) episode so soon. However, I really enjoyed it. The episode was cool, especially the ending where they see Jin is alive and he points out that The Others have arrived. The weapons they carry, long twigs with thorns on. :P Well that's what it looked like, anyway. ;)

The logo on the shark tail, too, was sweet. A nice touch, it's difficult to spot, except there is a big black blob on its tail -- kinda gives it away. ;)

djmc26
October 1st, 2005, 01:37 AM
taken from another thread/link
maybe it can be useful to comments:
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http://www.uih.it/blog/wp-content/DharmaLOST.jpg

Anubis
October 1st, 2005, 07:02 AM
My guess -- scientific research labratory. ;)

Jonzey
October 2nd, 2005, 03:07 AM
Maybe there was originally a man and a woman under the hatch, and whatever the sickness was going to kill everyone on earth, except for those two- who would ensure the survival of the human race.

But then something happened to the woman. And the sickness didn't spread as planned.

ShadowMaat
October 2nd, 2005, 06:38 AM
Maybe there was originally a man and a woman under the hatch, and whatever the sickness was going to kill everyone on earth, except for those two- who would ensure the survival of the human race.

But then something happened to the woman. And the sickness didn't spread as planned.
Well, we still haven't found an explanation for the skeletons discovered at the cave last year. ;)

Question is, was the virus manufactured? 'Cause I'm thinking it probably was. Biowarfare is a hot topic these days. But why is it only on the island? And how would it have spread?

Anubis
October 2nd, 2005, 07:12 AM
It's interesting that you point it out Shadow. Perhaps if it is contained, it can be cured, but then, why would the skeletons, or then, the people stay there? It's certainly a good point, and a question that will certainly become a bigger part of season two, I believe.

sgatelvr
October 4th, 2005, 09:35 AM
Both my bf and I found this to be a pretty frustrating episode. We wanted to know what happened to after Jack said "you." Instead, we got a rehashing of the week before, only from Kate & Locke's perspective. Whatever.

I also hated that Jin was pretty much forgotten until the end. Yes, Sawyer called for him for about a minute, but that was it. No feeling. No sadness. He may as well not have existed. I understand that Michael was upset about Walt, but still, Jin was a friend, too. :(

Oh well. We're giving it one more episode, then we may have to move on. Hopefully, something will actually happen this week.

Anubis
October 4th, 2005, 10:16 AM
Although I agree that it was just a few of the same scenes, just from a different view, but it just so happens that at the time, that's where Locke and Kate were -- in the hatch. There's not much that could be explored while one is held hostage, and the other in the vents.

Lost is different from most shows. It focuses on one character per episode, most the time. So we're not always going to get a mention of what's going on with other characters -- take Jin, for example. A Michael episode, we're not going to see where Jin is. Jin wasn't in the wreckage of the raft, he wasn't in the nearby area, so simply, there's not much they can actually do for him, just hope that he's okay.

sgatelvr
October 4th, 2005, 11:16 AM
Although I agree that it was just a few of the same scenes, just from a different view, but it just so happens that at the time, that's where Locke and Kate were -- in the hatch. There's not much that could be explored while one is held hostage, and the other in the vents.
Locke and Kate were in the hatch in the first episode, too. They could have just as easily progressed Jack's encounter with the gun-toting-threatening-Locke Desmond, and had them "find" Kate (which is probably what will happen on Wednesday, anyway). Instead, they drag out the story to make sure its "suspensful." Well, too much "suspense" will drive me away from the show.


Lost is different from most shows. It focuses on one character per episode, most the time. So we're not always going to get a mention of what's going on with other characters -- take Jin, for example. A Michael episode, we're not going to see where Jin is. Jin wasn't in the wreckage of the raft, he wasn't in the nearby area, so simply, there's not much they can actually do for him, just hope that he's okay.
Yeah, well they could have had Michael & Sawyer saying something like:
"geez, I sure hope Jin is okay" or
"Do you think the sharks got him?" or
"This is horrible, how are we going to break the news to Sun, if and when we ever see her again?."
Now, I'm not a script writer, but ANYTHING would have been nice!! There is no need to sacrifice compassion in order to develop a character. That was poor taste, IMO.

Just because they focus on one character at a time, does not mean they have to forget the others exist. Especially one so clearly related to that particular aspect of the show (being on the raft with them).

JMHO

Anubis
October 4th, 2005, 11:07 PM
Yeah, well they could have had Michael & Sawyer saying something like:
"geez, I sure hope Jin is okay" or
"Do you think the sharks got him?" or
"This is horrible, how are we going to break the news to Sun, if and when we ever see her again?."
Now, I'm not a script writer, but ANYTHING would have been nice!! There is no need to sacrifice compassion in order to develop a character. That was poor taste, IMO.


Maybe, maybe not. And even if they did say that, it wouldn't have made that much difference anyway, it still would have been brief. Instead, when they see him back on land, they'd have been like "Hey man, you're actually alive," and then help him break out of the 'restraints.'

Qtyled
October 4th, 2005, 11:31 PM
I actually liked it how it told the same events from a different point of view. We learnt alot more about Desmond and the hatch, which was what we watned to know anyway.

Tok'Ra Hostess
October 16th, 2005, 08:05 AM
And what did one snowman say to the other? Nice to snow you. Or maybe ice to meet you?

Apparently the correct response would be It smells like carrots to me
... think about it....:D

Cinephilic TV Addict
October 25th, 2005, 05:27 PM
This is easily the worst episode of lost. The execution of it was a huge problem, but the dialogue also stood out as much poorer than expected, especially with Sawyer and Michael on the raft.

The backstory was good, though - was overall well paced, acted, and thought out (the subtext that came through at the end was excellent -Michael wasn't just giving Walt away because he thought Susan could give him a better life, but he was giving Walt away because part of him still loved Susan).

Lost has definitely hit the second season curse - only Everyone Hates Hugo and the Sun/lost wedding ring story have been on par with last season episodes.

But, since season 1 was such genious, I'd bet that season 2 will get back on track, hopefully no later than half-way through it (considering they've probably shot at least half of it already and will definitely be able to tell the decrease in quality the show has gone through).

Qtyled
November 3rd, 2005, 06:22 AM
This is easily the worst episode of lost. The execution of it was a huge problem, but the dialogue also stood out as much poorer than expected, especially with Sawyer and Michael on the raft.

The backstory was good, though - was overall well paced, acted, and thought out (the subtext that came through at the end was excellent -Michael wasn't just giving Walt away because he thought Susan could give him a better life, but he was giving Walt away because part of him still loved Susan).

Lost has definitely hit the second season curse - only Everyone Hates Hugo and the Sun/lost wedding ring story have been on par with last season episodes.

But, since season 1 was such genious, I'd bet that season 2 will get back on track, hopefully no later than half-way through it (considering they've probably shot at least half of it already and will definitely be able to tell the decrease in quality the show has gone through).
Acually, I disagree. I feel that ...And Found is the worst episode thus far, due to the (seemingly) irrelivent backstory and lackluster island story. I think that the first 4 episodes have been brilliant, exeding the majority of season 1, though Adrift is probably the worst of "best", so to speak.

Cinephilic TV Addict
November 4th, 2005, 01:54 PM
Acually, I disagree. I feel that ...And Found is the worst episode thus far, due to the (seemingly) irrelivent backstory and lackluster island story. I think that the first 4 episodes have been brilliant, exeding the majority of season 1, though Adrift is probably the worst of "best", so to speak.

why i agree that most of ...And Found was not that good, the Sun/wedding ring story was just brilliantly written and made great TV, which is why i say Adrift is a little worse, because every island story wasn't that good in that episode. i even rewatched the first three episodes of season 2, and i still stand by my opinion that these are the worst three episodes of lost, due to poor execution (some directing, some writing, etc.; although i bet it probably looked really good on paper) but they're not horrible television, just not up to par with anything from season 1, IMO. i mean, i know this is a stargate website, but i can't lie - lost is far better television than stargate, and when i thought that some of the stargates were better than an episode of lost (aka adrift), i knew lost had hit a new low.

but, oh well - to each his/her own. it's not like i could stop watching, because it's so friggin addicting. :cool:

Qasim
November 20th, 2005, 10:00 AM
Wheres Desmond???????????

Metarock Sam
May 3rd, 2006, 01:17 PM
I liked thisep simply because it was nice to see Sawyer and Micheal again (although I was annoyed that they wernt thatworried about Jin)the only thing I dont get is how was it that Sawyer who was shot able to swim around whilst Jin who divwed after him just vainshed into thin air.
It was good to see inside the hatch from Lockes perspective since we got to learn more about Desmond and why he was in the hatch.
But the best bit hhas to be that awsome cliffhanger with Jin running towards Sawyer and Micheal pointing at some shifty looking peeps who he calls the others. And we get a great ep preview with these 'others' people beating up Jin Sawyer and Micheal throwing them in a cage with a girl who was on Flight 815 aswell as all the stuff with Desmond yelling we are all going to die and running away. Whoa what a great ending.

rushy
July 16th, 2011, 08:37 AM
I'm wondering if some of the others are descendents of slaves marooned from the Black Rock.

SPOILER TAGS FOR SEASON 6 INFO

Wow. You got close. Richard Alpert, the First of the Others, was a slave from the Black Rock.