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<FONT SIZE=1>EPISODE NUMBER - 422</FONT>
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SG-1 helps to evacuate the Tok'ra to a new base -- but matters are complicated when a spy reveals their location to Apophis. The team attempts a daring plan to take out the Goa'uld's powerful fleet.

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KorbenDirewolf
June 11th, 2004, 11:23 AM
Gotta love it.. Get to see a sun get blown up, as well as quite a lot of a fleet.

Also isn't this the first time we get to see an Alkesh?

SeaBee
June 12th, 2004, 02:28 AM
Gotta love it.. Get to see a sun get blown up, as well as quite a lot of a fleet.

Also isn't this the first time we get to see an Alkesh?
Yee-Haw!
This has to be the biggest bang ever! I loved the theory behind this ep. And a good set-up ep. for season 5.

I think you're right about the Alkesh. Cool looking ship.

Fav. line:
"Maday, maday, we are so going in!"

Dramaqueen
June 12th, 2004, 10:05 AM
Fav. line:
"Maday, maday, we are so going in!"
and "This is SO the last time I help someone move."

Crazedwraith
June 12th, 2004, 11:27 AM
You know thois one of the two Stargate episodes i've never seen. :( the other is "Small Victores" It was depressing i had to go on holiday o crete and missed it. :D :(

Roatbaum
June 13th, 2004, 12:15 AM
This was a really good one too, the first of three really good ones in a row.And Jacob always trying to talk Jack out of the ship.Carter has the very best ideas. Blowing up the sun, what a fun girl. Another good line, Jack, when he sat down and said "Shotgun" .

omnian
June 13th, 2004, 12:56 AM
This is a fun episode. I loved it. Then I had to wait a couple of months before I saw the conclusion :( but it made me love it even more, lol.

Nice to see that they haven't forgotten the black hole planet! :)

omnian
June 23rd, 2004, 10:07 AM
Something I just noticed in this episode....

When Tanith is in the 'cell' and he makes the host fall unconscious, a Tok'ra demands that the shield be put down. Her reason for this being that she doesn't want to let Tanith kill the host. BUT when have they ever taken this into consideration? They seem to be killing hosts all over the place! Aldwin nearly killed Martouf, Jacob and SG-1 in The Devil You Know; the Tok'ra in Deadman Switch was more than willing to kill himself, Aris Boch and SG-1...

Just a small observation I made there.

bcmilco
June 23rd, 2004, 03:29 PM
Once they free the host he can tell them all the knowledge he gained from the symbiot. I don't think they were actually considering the host just the knowledge he had. Just my guess.

Plus it gave them a way to free Tanith and get him out of the Tok'ra's grasp ;)

Selmak
July 10th, 2004, 09:14 PM
Blowing up a sun very ambitious for the secretive Tok'ra

Selmak
July 15th, 2004, 06:35 PM
The scene with the al-kesh was very cool.

Crazedwraith
July 25th, 2004, 04:38 AM
Something I just noticed in this episode....

When Tanith is in the 'cell' and he makes the host fall unconscious, a Tok'ra demands that the shield be put down. Her reason for this being that she doesn't want to let Tanith kill the host. BUT when have they ever taken this into consideration? They seem to be killing hosts all over the place! Aldwin nearly killed Martouf, Jacob and SG-1 in The Devil You Know; the Tok'ra in Deadman Switch was more than willing to kill himself, Aris Boch and SG-1...

Just a small observation I made there.

Yes put on when its unavoidable. In the Devil You Know they decide the deaths of Jacob & co were acceptable loses for the deaths of Sokar and Apopquiz. In "Deadman" Kel'tar knew if he lived it would mean more tok'ra might die. In Hebron's case it was possible to try and save the host thus they did their best.

Has anyone else noticed the mistake in the commentary about A matter of time? They say that only worked becasue it was an incomeing wormhole. So it shouldn't work in Exodus. Yet in Matter of Time it was alos an out going wormhole.

Anubis
July 25th, 2004, 06:02 AM
I didn't notice that, thanks for bringing it up!

Selmak
July 26th, 2004, 06:25 PM
waves/energy can travel 2 ways not matter... if that helps.

Watters87
August 3rd, 2004, 01:21 PM
If you look real close when SG1 and Jacob ring down at the start, you can see Daniel do an excellent impression of a fish.

Sierra Golf 1
September 26th, 2004, 05:29 PM
WHY when the Ha'tak's engine was shut down IN THE MIDDLE OF SPACE did it stop moving???? Im talking about when they wanted to divert all power to the shields to protect themselves from the shockwave of an explosion
(which also is something one would never see in space). When the engines are turned off, the ship just stops. In space, it should have kept going because there is no air or anything (alright, maybe the star's gravity) to slow it down (but if it was the star's gravity, it would have began to movee backwards). Also, the shockwave from the exploding ship doesn't belong. Any shockwave from anything, including a sound, needs a medium (such as any gas or liquid or some solid materials) to travel through. There is nothing in space (thats why they call it space :S ) for a shockwave to travel through.

KorbenDirewolf
October 1st, 2004, 01:08 PM
They must have an extra hidden "stopping" engine.

Sierra Golf 1
October 2nd, 2004, 03:50 PM
They must have an extra hidden "stopping" engine. :D

Darkstar
November 14th, 2004, 09:35 AM
i can't belive that snake ass cold blooded killer escaped! getting out of there like that he should ave stayed on the mother ship and been devoured by the replicators or better still thrown into the black hole. still he did die in the end.
much enjoyed this episode and i like what they did with the next introducing the replicators to the goa'uld. putting things into prespective showing that the all powerful goa'uld are not up to much when they run into a few techno bugs. :D :D :D

Daniel's_twin
November 17th, 2004, 06:12 PM
Pretty good. First Goa'uld ship owned by the SGC, first sun Carter blew up, first Al'kesh vessel we encounter, and first time they address the fact of "how do the Tok'ra know where the rings are when all of the land looks the same?" :cool:

Erik Pasternak
December 12th, 2004, 09:25 AM
Pretty good. First Goa'uld ship owned by the SGC, first sun Carter blew up, first Al'kesh vessel we encounter, and first time they address the fact of "how do the Tok'ra know where the rings are when all of the land looks the same?" :cool:
They address it? I remember the question, but where is the answer?

Daniel's_twin
December 12th, 2004, 09:44 AM
Said they addressed it. Didn't say they answered it. :cool:

Erik Pasternak
December 12th, 2004, 10:57 AM
Said they addressed it. Didn't say they answered it. :cool:
You're right, but I'd really like an answer.

SmartFox
March 23rd, 2005, 11:07 PM
Once they free the host he can tell them all the knowledge he gained from the symbiot. I don't think they were actually considering the host just the knowledge he had. Just my guess.

Plus it gave them a way to free Tanith and get him out of the Tok'ra's grasp ;)

Did anyone notice though that a Tok'ra was standing 10 feet away from Tanith and was pointing a zat at him. What did Tanith do fake die again after killing the first Tok'ra.

Other then that little nitpick this episode was great. I mean how often do you get to see a sun blown up. Also what was that really big ship that Apophis was in. Have we seen that before?

fair_nymph
April 11th, 2005, 06:33 PM
This was another excellent, action filled cliffhander season finale (although, I would be very angry about the cliffhanger aspect if I weren't watching these seasons on DVD for the first time, with the beginning of Season 5 ready to watch right away).

Blowing up a sun is an incredibly cool idea, as was the twist of it boosting the ship's speed and distance so that it ended up in a far away galaxy (I'm presuming it was a different galaxy?).

I loved the bantering between Jacob and Jack in this episode, and Jack's posessiveness about his ship. Good stuff.

QuiGonJohn
May 30th, 2005, 10:37 AM
This one was good. At first it wasn't clear that they had already returned to Earth before bringing the mothership to the Tok'ra. My wife thought the ship landing in Double Jeopardy was them landing where the Tok'ra were. I too am watching on DVD. Would be bummed if I had to wait for another season to finish the cliffhanger.

Am I not remembering properly or did we finally get a season without a "clip" show near the end?

Daniel's_twin
May 31st, 2005, 09:14 AM
Actually, they stopped doing clip shows after season two's finale "out of mind." They didn't officially start doing clip shows until Season Six (or if you wanna get really picky about it, I suppose Season 5's "Meridian" had a clip from COTG of Daniel shouting for Sha're.). :cool:

Perriman33
August 18th, 2005, 06:29 AM
Tanith was good in this episode, although his escape was a bit odd! You could see how proud Jack was of his new ship and how he rubbed it in jacobs face every chance he got! Mind you as soon as I saw the ship I had a feeling something bad would happen to it.
The sun exploding was cool as well ,way to go sam!
The size of apophis's ship was huge as well, did he just build that one or was it sokar's flagship?

Stricken
September 8th, 2005, 04:40 AM
Amazing end to prehaps the best Stargate Season!!!!

walter_MacChevron
September 17th, 2005, 12:07 PM
Great episode.....pretty good cliffhanger........but I like seasons 5 or possibly 9 better than this season.

Metarock Sam
September 21st, 2005, 01:53 PM
One of the reasons that Season Four is so great is all down to this episode. IT is so good not only becuase we got to see a sun go supernova and destroy apophis's fleet. We got to see super hyperspace in one of the best cliffhangers ever and we got some of the best SG-1 jokes intertwined within the episode. You gotta love it.

Amanda Eros
October 20th, 2005, 07:39 PM
Spoiler for season nine, after seeing Beachhead we learned that a gate connected to a blackhole can stay open basically forever. Now when the SGC was connected to the blackhole in the episode, A Matter of Time, they were able to close their gate by setting off an explosion. This caused the event horizon to open in another location. So, when they dialed P3W-451, the same planet on the edge of the blackhole, in Exodus, how were they able to get a connection? Maybe Sam explained it in the episode, I don't have it with me nor do I have the transcript.

Daniel's_twin
October 21st, 2005, 06:51 AM
Spoiler for season nine, after seeing Beachhead we learned that a gate connected to a blackhole can stay open basically forever. Now when the SGC was connected to the blackhole in the episode, A Matter of Time, they were able to close their gate by setting off an explosion. This caused the event horizon to open in another location. So, when they dialed P3W-451, the same planet on the edge of the blackhole, in Exodus, how were they able to get a connection? Maybe Sam explained it in the episode, I don't have it with me nor do I have the transcript.

1: Spoiler tags work great. If you don't know how, let me know and I'll PM you.

2: It's possible that the Ori were able to modify their black hole to keep the gate open but a gate under normal operations in a black hole will only stay open for a much longer time (due to time-warping) but will eventually shut down. :cool:

skeezix
February 11th, 2006, 01:18 AM
"Don't scuff the paint!"
So many good Jack quotes in this episode. This episode was good, though it did have some lame parts imo such as Tannith escaping - there were three tok'ra there, one, presumably two, had a zat and was aiming at him. How the crap do you let him get away. I call BS on that one. I also think the team should have reacted quicker to the bomber shooting their nice shiny new mothership. Obviously explosion sounds indicate an attack. Besides that, the sun blowing up was sweet. Back when I first saw this episode I don't believe I ever got to see the conclusion so I'm pumped for the next one.

BlackBaron
February 11th, 2006, 05:53 AM
"Don't scuff the paint!"
So many good Jack quotes in this episode.

This ep. is the best Jack episode ever.

"We didn't park in a red zone did we?"

desert fox
June 13th, 2006, 04:35 AM
That is my favorite episode of all SG-1 along with "Enemies". At last SG-1 made a showdown with Apophis. Alkesh type bomber was cool. I also liked Alkesh and death glider dogfight. O'Neill killing Red Jaffas and nicking Tanith was also good. But artifical supernova wiping fleet of Apophis was very impressive. There you go snake boy ! You should be more careful. Speaking of Tanith I didn't get how he escaped ? There was at least three Tok'Ra , one of them poiniting a Zat to him while he was faking Hebron's death. O'Neill's comment about Tanith explains everything about him : "This guy is a living cliche"

Teddybrown
March 26th, 2008, 02:50 AM
Good ending for Season 5 to open up on
Great to see SG1 blow up a Sun and wipe out a whole fleet
Overall good episode
Wonder what will happen to Tealc
He gets brainwashed by Apophis but then taken back by SG1 and goes through Rite of Malshuraan and then he turns back to SG1

StargateSG8
May 8th, 2008, 05:47 PM
pretty class episode, great end to the season.
I'm just wondering now, where the hell are they? they aren't in their own galaxy anymore, i amn't really worried about apophis now, more worried about that is 'out there':S

captain jake
July 1st, 2008, 02:42 PM
Exodus was the beginning of the end for Apophis, a moment that launched us into the hands of more advanced and varied enemies. Teal'c gets to tell Tanith that all of his actions have been counterproductive, but in doing so Tanith was fueled by anger. It was this anger that enabled him to escape and warn his backup of what was going on. In my opinion they should have caught Tanith off guard and assassinated him before he knew what was going on. It was a miracle that his escape didn't foil the entire plan.

Ulkesh47
July 15th, 2008, 08:33 PM
"That guy is a living cliche."

L E E
July 16th, 2008, 06:21 AM
Great FX as usual. The floating stargate. Exploding stars. Motherships, gliders, alkesh bombers.

I love space battles. Wow. That Alkesh is much bigger than the glider. Quite powerful too. It rendered the mothership pretty much useless upon de-cloaking.

As usual, Jack's sense of humor made this ep more enjoyable. When he arrived at the Tokra base, he looked so proud of the mothership they brought. And of course, understandably possessive of it as well. Then at the bridge, he looked like a kid when he saw the throne. "Shotgun!" :lol:

"This is sooo the last time we're gonna help someone move." is another :lol: moment.

IMO, the best season ender yet. Love the cliffhanger. They're in another galaxy! With Apophis! Oooh. Gotta go watch Season 5 now. :cool:

Ulkesh47
July 16th, 2008, 07:10 PM
This episode and "Enemies" are huge, action-packed episodes that I think are even better than "Nemesis"/"Small Victories".

And I loved Carter's plan to blow up Vorash's sun.

HelloVelo
July 29th, 2008, 11:39 PM
There were some thing that really bugged me about this episode, but it was still pretty good.

Rating: 8/10

Full Review: http://stargatesummer.blogspot.com/2008/07/exodus.html

Butlersgate
February 28th, 2009, 10:47 AM
nothing can beat blowing up a sun. amazing season ending

balo
April 3rd, 2009, 07:40 AM
Yes it was a great cliffhanger , lots of cool FX , I cant wait to see the next episode !

Rating : 8 / 10

The Stig
May 2nd, 2009, 12:17 AM
Gotta love it.. Get to see a sun get blown up, as well as quite a lot of a fleet.

Also isn't this the first time we get to see an Alkesh?

A lovely explosion to end the series. Teal'c getting shot was a bit of a twist.

rushy
November 25th, 2009, 12:09 PM
Does nobody care about the fact they blew up a sun?I like suns:tealcanime51:
I HATE CARTER well only her idea actually

Tachyon
December 7th, 2009, 02:45 AM
This is a pretty good episode. I've always liked Tok'Ra stories and this one delivers as well. :)

gateship15
December 7th, 2009, 11:21 AM
i like this episode to. i also like tok'ra stories there interesting. i just like the fact the tok'ra ask to take host and altho are snakes are totally different from the power hungry gou'ld

AresLover452
December 7th, 2009, 11:23 AM
What made me mad about this one is that Tanith didn't bite it in the end... slippery little snake managed to stay alive.

gateship15
December 7th, 2009, 11:26 AM
i agree i was mad at that two. he didn't deserve to live

AresLover452
December 7th, 2009, 11:32 AM
i agree i was mad at that two. he didn't deserve to live

i don't think Tanith was killed off, just forgotten.

gateship15
December 7th, 2009, 11:35 AM
the worm got to live on now thats disappointing. they could have at least had him killed

AresLover452
December 7th, 2009, 11:41 AM
It was so not kewl!!

gateship15
December 7th, 2009, 11:42 AM
i agree his a bad guy bad guys get theres

mrscopterdoc
March 15th, 2010, 01:26 PM
I am so thankful that I am watching this on DVD and I don't have to wait for season 5 to see what happens next, that would drive me crazy. I hate 2 parters. :D

asdf1239
April 4th, 2010, 02:43 AM
how the hell did tanith overpower three guards one of which was armed?

maneth
September 20th, 2010, 11:05 AM
Indeed. Tanith's fate is a bit of a mystery. Great season finale though, and blowing up the sun just blew my mind.

ChulaksPrincess
October 24th, 2010, 01:05 PM
So, Jack is never going to help anyone else move again.

:lol:

I loved that statement. I did not like to see Teal'c's capture. Sam is awesome. She blew up a sun! Jacob really enjoys giving his daughter a hard time. Great episode. Plenty of action.

Noxbait
March 13th, 2011, 05:15 PM
I like that Sam argued with her Dad about going back for Jack and Teal'c.
"You're assuming they're assuming..."
Love Daniel's "Warning Warning"

The whole "Jaffa revenge thing" and Jack's near constant irritation (whether at the Tok'ra, Jacob, or Teal'c) was hilarious! It is unusual for Jack and Teal'c to be at odds. That was kind of a new twist I think.
The conversation between Jack and Teal'c as they walk along the sand dune after crashing was priceless.."I remember, O'Neill."

Gotta love the red spray paint job that Apophis did on his Jaffa's battle gear. A new look for a revived System Lord.

Whoa...did not see Teal'c getting shot! That was a surprise.

Love Jack trying to find the rings in the sand and how he cringed as the rings started up as if he was terrified he was in the wrong place. Very nice!

Just a great episode all around!!!

FrodoFraggins
April 8th, 2011, 06:47 PM
8.5/10

No major complaints, but I really didn't feel any tension in this episode. It probably sounded great on paper, but kind of fizzled on screen for some reason.

SG1Member
November 20th, 2011, 07:11 AM
This episode had my personal favorite cliffhanger ending from the entire series: lost in an unknown part of space, 125 years from home, and with Apophis breathing down our necks. When i first saw this episode, I was like "How the hell are they going to get out of this one???"

Just goes to show that even the most carefully laid plans can have unforseen consequences.

dipsofjazz
November 20th, 2011, 10:30 AM
This episode had my personal favorite cliffhanger ending from the entire series: lost in an unknown part of space, 125 years from home, and with Apophis breathing down our necks. When i first saw this episode, I was like "How the hell are they going to get out of this one???"

Just goes to show that even the most carefully laid plans can have unforseen consequences.
:D I was exactly the same. I remember when it finished, I screamed "noooooooo!" at the tv, and couldn't wait until the next season began.

Brother Freyr
November 22nd, 2011, 01:03 AM
Well, I've finished this month's re-watch. I just love that Sam blew up a sun. The end, oh my what an end! A great cliffhanger.

Dave2
November 24th, 2011, 01:41 PM
What happened to all the Jaffa on Cronus's ship when SGI took it over???
And how do folks manage on interspace travel with no food or drink?!

Matt G
November 26th, 2011, 02:27 PM
Tuesday night and one last ep of SG1(for now)

1. Hadn't originally clocked that SG1 had made off with Cronus's ship.

2. Nice try and dealing with Tanith but...rewatching it was so obvious that Tanith was faking.

3. Blowing up a star. OK...

4. Going after Tanith. Stupid.

5. OK...this was the ultimate "how the hell are they going to get out of this?"

Flipping hell, I'm done with S4 four days ahead of schedule! What a ride!

bookwormjules
November 26th, 2011, 02:38 PM
What happened to all the Jaffa on Cronus's ship when SGI took it over???
And how do folks manage on interspace travel with no food or drink?!

Educated guess: They were either released on agreement they would join the resistance against the goa'uld or killed. I don't remember being many of them left when once they took over. As for food and drink, SG1 probably went back to Earth and brought back supplies for travel. They've brought supplies when they've use the cargo ships, it's probably safe to assume the same for here.

Dave2
November 26th, 2011, 03:00 PM
Well, we didn't see them eating or drinking anything while on Cronus's ship.......
And we see no signs of any Jaffa on board either.....


Educated guess: They were either released on agreement they would join the resistance against the goa'uld or killed. I don't remember being many of them left when once they took over. As for food and drink, SG1 probably went back to Earth and brought back supplies for travel. They've brought supplies when they've use the cargo ships, it's probably safe to assume the same for here.

bookwormjules
November 26th, 2011, 06:01 PM
Well, we didn't see them eating or drinking anything while on Cronus's ship.......
And we see no signs of any Jaffa on board either.....

Do you really think they'll waste time in an episode showing them all sitting down to eat lunch?

hedwig
November 26th, 2011, 06:58 PM
Well, we didn't see them eating or drinking anything while on Cronus's ship.......
And we see no signs of any Jaffa on board either.....

We rarely saw anyone eating anything aboard a Goa'uld ship. About the only time any eating was done was aboard one of the earth ships.

As for the Jaffa, perhaps they stayed on Juna or were put off on another planet to go their own way.

fems
November 27th, 2011, 02:08 AM
We also never saw anyone go to the bathroom, doesn't mean there isn't one or that they don't need it. Obviously SG-1 ate offscreen, probably munching on their power bars and MREs that are standard items in their packs. Not sure how often a Jaffa actually has to eat if he kelno'reems enough.

hedwig
November 27th, 2011, 08:24 AM
We also never saw anyone go to the bathroom, doesn't mean there isn't one or that they don't need it. Obviously SG-1 ate offscreen, probably munching on their power bars and MREs that are standard items in their packs. Not sure how often a Jaffa actually has to eat if he kelno'reems enough.

Kelnoreem is a replacement for sleep (which we know the Jaffa don't or rarely do), not food . It isn't a replacement for food. And we certainly saw Teal'c eating a lot of food in various episodes of SG1. :)


Kelnorim
A form of deep meditation, which Jaffa are required to perform on a regular basis in order to survive. During Kelnorim, both Jaffa and symbiote are as one being, giving the symbiote, if needed, the instructions it needs to repair injuries or illness in the body. It is also possible for their minds to intermingle.

fems
November 27th, 2011, 08:46 AM
I know what kelno'reem's purpose is, but I have no idea how it will affect a 'person's' health when it comes to nourishment. We know how long a human can go without food or water, but we don't know that about Jaffa but we do know they can change their need for oxygen by entering a deep state of kelno'reem and can even slow their heartbeat so much it stops (yet they still live). Also, I don't believe it's a replacement for sleep but merely something that requires their physiology to need less sleep.

Dave2
November 27th, 2011, 08:52 AM
As part of an episode, why not? O'Neill was eating Fruit Loops 3 or 4 times in that episode.


Do you really think they'll waste time in an episode showing them all sitting down to eat lunch?

hedwig
November 27th, 2011, 11:04 AM
I know what kelno'reem's purpose is, but I have no idea how it will affect a 'person's' health when it comes to nourishment. We know how long a human can go without food or water, but we don't know that about Jaffa but we do know they can change their need for oxygen by entering a deep state of kelno'reem and can even slow their heartbeat so much it stops (yet they still live). Also, I don't believe it's a replacement for sleep but merely something that requires their physiology to need less sleep.

That's part of the definition in the GW Omnipedia. :)

fems
November 27th, 2011, 11:29 AM
That's part of the definition in the GW Omnipedia. :)

Seeing as how they don't even spell kelno'reem correctly and don't give a source, I'll take it with a grain of salt. If it's not canon, I'd take the lexicon over the GW omnipedia any day.

bookwormjules
November 27th, 2011, 12:09 PM
Seeing as how they don't even spell kelno'reem correctly and don't give a source, I'll take it with a grain of salt. If it's not canon, I'd take the lexicon over the GW omnipedia any day.

I believe it's mentioned in a season 7 episode about how he requires sleep since he no longer has a symbiote. Trying to remember which one.


As part of an episode, why not? O'Neill was eating Fruit Loops 3 or 4 times in that episode.

I'm slightly confused as to why anyone would want to watch the cast members eat food during a regular episode when time could be better spent on more important things. I don't get why it needs to be shown they eat food. When it's obvious it happens off screen 90% of the time.

fems
November 27th, 2011, 12:19 PM
I believe it's mentioned in a season 7 episode about how he requires sleep since he no longer has a symbiote. Trying to remember which one.


Yes, I know. I'm just saying I find it hard to believe Jaffa wouldn't have to sleep at all. They are obviously familiar with this 'phenomenon' as well as dreams and in The Warrior K'tano mentions that Teal'c told him the humans required several hours of sleep (and there being no shame in that). Obviously you can interpret that as the Jaffa not needing it at all, but then I think he'd be more puzzled about it or have phrased it differently. It also makes me wonder why Teal'c would have a bed or carry a sleeping bag with him if he doesn't require any sleep at all, ever.



I'm slightly confused as to why anyone would want to watch the cast members eat food during a regular episode when time could be better spent on more important things. I don't get why it needs to be shown they eat food. When it's obvious it happens off screen 90% of the time.

Yeah, it would be like watching them set up their tents/sleeping area, seeing them use the facilities (either at the SGC or off-world), sleep, shower/bathe etc in every single episode.

Dave2
November 27th, 2011, 01:43 PM
Other than that we can notice how the main actors always have their hair neatly in place and clean shaven (except for Sam who always has lipstick)...... ;-)


As part of an episode, why not? O'Neill was eating Fruit Loops 3 or 4 times in that episode.

fems
November 28th, 2011, 12:31 AM
That's part of the definition in the GW Omnipedia. :)


Kelnoreem is a replacement for sleep (which we know the Jaffa don't or rarely do), not food . It isn't a replacement for food. And we certainly saw Teal'c eating a lot of food in various episodes of SG1. :)


I know what kelno'reem's purpose is, but I have no idea how it will affect a 'person's' health when it comes to nourishment. We know how long a human can go without food or water, but we don't know that about Jaffa but we do know they can change their need for oxygen by entering a deep state of kelno'reem and can even slow their heartbeat so much it stops (yet they still live). Also, I don't believe it's a replacement for sleep but merely something that requires their physiology to need less sleep.

Just came across this in Holiday:

O'NEILL/TEAL'C
It can only accomplish its work if you put your body into a state of kelno'reem.

TEAL'C/O'NEILL
Translation, Teal'c.

O'NEILL/TEAL'C
Similar to a state of hibernation.


So it's not really sleep and could definitely mean Jaffa don't need much sustenance if they kelno'reem long/deep/often enough.

bookwormjules
November 28th, 2011, 02:14 AM
Just came across this in Holiday:

O'NEILL/TEAL'C
It can only accomplish its work if you put your body into a state of kelno'reem.

TEAL'C/O'NEILL
Translation, Teal'c.

O'NEILL/TEAL'C
Similar to a state of hibernation.


So it's not really sleep and could definitely mean Jaffa don't need much sustenance if they kelno'reem long/deep/often enough.

Teal'c just described it as similar to a state of hibernation, which basically means it's their version of sleep. Not replacement to sustenance, such as food. I'm assuming the symbiote allows them to go longer without food but nowhere is it ever mentioned kelno'reem is used in replacement to food.

fems
November 28th, 2011, 02:35 AM
I'm not saying it's a replacement of anything, food or sleep... :rolleyes: I'm just pointing out that the body's needs are different during hibernation and thus there's a chance the same applies to kelno'reeming Jaffa.

Dave2
November 28th, 2011, 11:17 AM
I have a feeling the writers just didn't pursue the issue of the Jaffa on board the ship and left it since we see no evidence that hundreds of Jaffa were dropped off willingly anywhere. A major plot hole is the fact that despite the death of Cronus the Jaffa could have eventually overtaken the ship against four or five people, with or without Teal'c.

jelgate
November 28th, 2011, 01:29 PM
I have a feeling the writers just didn't pursue the issue of the Jaffa on board the ship and left it since we see no evidence that hundreds of Jaffa were dropped off willingly anywhere. A major plot hole is the fact that despite the death of Cronus the Jaffa could have eventually overtaken the ship against four or five people, with or without Teal'c.Not when they control the Pel'tac.

Lieutenant Sparrow
November 30th, 2011, 02:55 AM
A great end to the season.

Al'kesh. Ha'tak. Gliders. Apophis and his kick ass mothership. Doesn't get much more awesome than that. I miss all the different Goa'uld ships in later eps.

So Sam blew up a star. With help from Jacob of course. It ain't no solar system though :mckay09:

NowIWillDestroyAbydos
November 30th, 2011, 04:52 PM
Great end to the 4th Season of SG-1.

So Apophis is back, Teal'c is dead, and we're trapped in another galaxy with no way to get home.

The commentary:

Joe talked about he and Paul used to work on a script as a team
The woman who came in after Tanith fell we an extra, but got lines because of continuity issues
Was recorded during filming (?) of Summit & Last Stand (Joe mentions 8 new System Lords introduced during Season 5)


Tomorrow, the conclusion to this cliffhanger and the beginning of the next part of our journey through the 5th season of Stargate SG-1.

Krisz
November 30th, 2011, 07:58 PM
Great ending to a top notch season!

Watching it for the first time was the best, it loses a bit with rewatching I found. Still, the effects are good, I loved the way the Stargate was released and tumbled out into space towards the sun.

Apophis ending up in the same spot as SG-1 after being flung into a galaxy, far far away was a surprise first time round and is still a great moment.

Jae'a
December 1st, 2011, 07:09 AM
Agreed, great stuff!

My LiveJournal post (http://jo-r-lee.livejournal.com/24018.html)

jelgate
December 4th, 2011, 03:40 PM
This is a purely an action episode. Its an all out scramble with capturing Tanith and then trying to avoid the superior forces of Apophis. Its an all out action first episode of trying to cause a sun to explode and then Teal'c has this vendetta against Tanith. It works because thier is so much SG1 has to do in the action context of trying to cripple Apophis and the threat Tanith presents in this episode as he tries to escape. But at the same time it doesn't go too fast like some Stargate episodes. I especially like how the sun somehow makes the hatak go really fast even if such travel is contradicted in future episodes. The one downside is I just do not buy how Tanith escaped Tok'ra capture. It was too easy

Dimes
December 29th, 2011, 04:04 PM
Kinda boring episode in my opinion.

Neomon
February 1st, 2012, 05:24 PM
Interesting set of episodes. Only thought I'm having at the moment though: What was up with the red armor that Apophis' Jafa were wearing? Was it just to indicate who was loyal to him?

Lieutenant Sparrow
February 2nd, 2012, 01:08 AM
Interesting set of episodes. Only thought I'm having at the moment though: What was up with the red armor that Apophis' Jafa were wearing? Was it just to indicate who was loyal to him?

Those were the Jaffa that he got from Sokar. When Sokar was killed, Apophis took control of his forces.

Gate_Builder
February 7th, 2012, 11:07 AM
Those were the Jaffa that he got from Sokar. When Sokar was killed, Apophis took control of his forces.

Yes, remember when the Tok'ra blew up the replica hell moon Netu? Sokar's ship was in orbit and went along with it; while Apophis escaped down to the surface of the nearby planet. So he then became the leader and absorbed Sokar's army.
Although I have to wonder something.... why didn't Sokar's crew realize that the moon was going critical and getting ready to explode? I guess they weren't paying attention to their scanners. Otherwise they could have jumped into hyperspace and avoided getting splattered across the sky.

Cluas
January 24th, 2013, 01:06 PM
I don't know if anyone is interested, it's been over a year since the last post here. But I just wanted to say, I loved this one...

I also saw the conclusion(s) and must say I was disappointed by the whole Teal'c plot. Not good. But I will continue watching as I am a big fan, and heard many praises of Season 5

Falcon Horus
June 20th, 2013, 03:58 PM
I'm not entirely sure about this episode, whether I like it or not. It's a bit slow and only picks up the pace when they release the gate to blow up that sun.

I mean, I LOVE that shot of the gate in the cargo hold and the sequence of dialing, releasing and floating towards the sun. Some decent special effects at work. Sure, you can see it's CGI stuff but they've had worse. :p

Apophis has a cool ship - big but cool.

Meh, not sure...

ajay
April 20th, 2014, 06:26 AM
Random thoughts:

This is second episode in a row where Daniel had very few lines. Anyone know if any particular reason for that? Did MS have another organ removed along with his appendix?

Leave Jacob and Sam alone for a few minutes and what do you get? A crazy-ass plan to blow up a sun, complete with simulations.

Action Jack knocking down two Jaffa and winging Tanith. Awesome. Those Jaffa seriously need some target practice. Or add laser sights to their staff weapons.

Space is big. Really big. What're the chances Apophis would turn up in the exact same spot in space 4 million light years from their origin? Let me do the math... *divide by six...carry the one...*

Anja
September 15th, 2015, 02:02 AM
After watching this ep I put in the first dvd of season 5 as fast as I could.
I hadn't read anything here or anywhere else so I wanted to know how the story continued.

Good for Teal'c and SG1 - thanks to the writers.

Science
May 21st, 2016, 03:23 PM
Space is big. Really big. What're the chances Apophis would turn up in the exact same spot in space 4 million light years from their origin? Let me do the math... *divide by six...carry the one...*

He likely set course to pursue them as they left, thus ending in the same place. ;)

Anja
May 22nd, 2016, 05:14 AM
He likely set course to pursue them as they left, thus ending in the same place. ;)

Maybe the writers wanted it to be this way!

Falcon Horus
June 9th, 2018, 02:13 PM
Looks like I liked it much last time I watched Exodus but I have to say I thoroughly enjoyed myself this time around. It actually does have some very good stuff going on throughout the entire episode.

The Tok'ra are relocating to a new planet and the SGC is giving their latest acquisition in loan. At least I now know what happened to Chronos' ship (still no word on the Jaffa on board). I'm rather amused the entire time with Jack and Jacob's banter, and especially when he's thinking the plan over about blowing up a sun.

Blowing up a sun is rather ambitious (at least we can agree on that).

Big fan of the CG-effects of the gate in the cargohold and floating out towards, and into the sun. Pretty amazing stuff.

Teal'c though... He couldn't let go, could he. He had to follow that Alkesh and got himself in a bit of a bind.
Yeah, I can't actually remember how he gets out of it, but I'm about to continue watching so I'm about to find out how this two-parter continues again. I really can't remember.

How would you rate SG-1's "Exodus?"

Excellent
Good
Fair
Poor
Terrible

+++++

3-episode quiz: Double Jeopardy, Exodus & Enemies (S5) (https://goo.gl/forms/PSZkn95HzfuN6uMo1)

Jigsaw puzzle: Exodus (https://www.jigidi.com/solve.php?id=731DUM6U)

My time: 07:02

jelgate
June 11th, 2018, 11:31 AM
Ah the infamous blowing up the sun episode. I love this episode as it has character like Tealc taunting Tanith. Their is a lot of action like us outwitting Apophis and the Alkesh fight. Jack does make a good point. How do they know where to stand? While being hurkes to another galaxy is cool the speed is contradicted in later episodesj. I'm calling this excellent with 6 minutes 8 seconds

Falcon Horus
June 11th, 2018, 12:14 PM
Jack guessing where he should stand and sorta hoping everything will be transported, reminded me of that time in Atlantis where John and Rodney are beamed down to Atlantis (I think) and Rodney makes himself as small as possible -- looking incredibly ridiculous in the process.

BethHG
June 30th, 2018, 05:23 PM
8:59

I really like this episode!

I like Jack and Jacob's banter as well. :)

Teal'c getting captured-- no good will come from that.

Loved that Jack and Daniel were playing with a tennis ball.

Always love seeing Sam and her dad working together.

And the Sun blowing up was awesome!

Who Knows
July 1st, 2018, 08:49 PM
9:54

Platschu
August 28th, 2018, 08:05 AM
4x22 Exodus
1.They have forgotten to add the glyphs on the stargate when the locks were releasing it. Probably they confused the two sites.
http://csillagkapu.hu/kep.php?kep=http://kepek.csillagkapu.hu/hiba/4x22/01.jpg
http://csillagkapu.hu/kep.php?kep=http://kepek.csillagkapu.hu/hiba/4x22/02.jpg
http://csillagkapu.hu/kep.php?kep=http://kepek.csillagkapu.hu/hiba/4x22/04.jpg

2.If the floating gate was released towards the local sun’s direction, then why had it a shadow on the left?
http://csillagkapu.hu/kep.php?kep=http://kepek.csillagkapu.hu/hiba/4x22/03.jpg
My comment: They could still modify the trajectory.

3. Only 6 Ha’tak arrived with the Apophis’s flagship, but then number of the ships was increased.
http://csillagkapu.hu/kep.php?kep=http://kepek.csillagkapu.hu/hiba/4x22/05.jpg
http://csillagkapu.hu/kep.php?kep=http://kepek.csillagkapu.hu/hiba/4x22/08.jpg

4.One of the Jaffa extra was worn his costume wrongly. His metal “skirt” should have been outside, but it was right in the back when he kneeled down.
http://csillagkapu.hu/kep.php?kep=http://kepek.csillagkapu.hu/hiba/4x22/09.jpg
http://csillagkapu.hu/kep.php?kep=http://kepek.csillagkapu.hu/hiba/4x22/10.jpg

5.When they released the Death glider, that was the mirrored scene from 2x01 Serpent’s lair.
http://csillagkapu.hu/kep.php?kep=http://kepek.csillagkapu.hu/hiba/4x22/06.jpg
http://csillagkapu.hu/kep.php?kep=http://kepek.csillagkapu.hu/hiba/4x22/07.jpg