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captain keys
August 18th, 2005, 01:40 AM
ok we ships that can power sheilds weaponsand a hole bunch of other stuff
so y cant we make another one of the power sorcies that power the ships and use it to power the gate for dialing to peagisis

gallywag
August 18th, 2005, 03:55 AM
proberly because the power needed to power the gate would need a lot more power than the ship would normnally use

captain keys
August 18th, 2005, 04:02 AM
i mean like 8 of them

aAnubiSs
August 18th, 2005, 05:37 AM
Because creating reactors for vessels takes quite alot of resources and time and the gain isn't motivated by the cost at the time obviously. Besides, 18 days isn't that long.

And how about a better title next time?

captain keys
August 18th, 2005, 05:51 AM
what about sheilds we could get gebnoraters for those

gallywag
August 18th, 2005, 11:32 AM
planatary shields?? yea im sure everyone would love that all radio and tv signals blocked due to the ioniseing particales hat make up shields

Lord ┬žokar
August 18th, 2005, 05:50 PM
Ionizing particles? What?

Radio waves are not ionizing radiation and they're quite capable of penetrating the ionosphere. It's generally a good idea to try and keep the ionizing radiation above the ionosphere. I'm sure shields could be made that allow radio signals to pass.

AsgardCarnage
August 18th, 2005, 07:55 PM
because with all the oney u would spend on making how ever many reactors u need to power the gate and make a worm hole back to atlantis, the gate can't be used to attack other ships or go places where the gate can't. i would rather spend my money on a ship like the daundlus(spl?) then on a gate that only goes to one place.

captain keys
August 19th, 2005, 12:13 AM
no no no sheilds for atlantis

EnigmaNZ
August 19th, 2005, 02:12 PM
Earth's gate was once powered briefly by a staff weapon power core to open a wormhole to Thor's homeworld. In another episode the generating capacity of a CVN was used to repeat the process. So the power requirements for intergalactic gate travel are not insurmountable. Between 50 and 100 Mw it seems will open the gate for a few seconds. In another episode 5 or 6 Mk1 naquadah generators opened a wormhole from Atlantis to Earth for a second or so, the Mk2 generator is 200 times more powerful, though at such outputs it's life is short. So where the Mk1's output may be in the 10's of Mw, prosumably the Mk2 output is in the Gw range.

aAnubiSs
August 19th, 2005, 02:18 PM
Naquadah Reactor Mark2 is 600% more efficient, not 20000%

Oh and WTH is a CVN? Aircraft Carrier?=)

Eoin
August 19th, 2005, 03:30 PM
Earth's gate was once powered briefly by a staff weapon power core to open a wormhole to Thor's homeworld.
Jack improvised and made a ZPM type power source.

In another episode the generating capacity of a CVN was used to repeat the process.
Whats a CVN :confused:

So the power requirements for intergalactic gate travel are not insurmountable. Between 50 and 100 Mw it seems will open the gate for a few seconds. In another episode 5 or 6 Mk1 naquadah generators opened a wormhole from Atlantis to Earth for a second or so, the Mk2 generator is 200 times more powerful, though at such outputs it's life is short. So where the Mk1's output may be in the 10's of Mw, prosumably the Mk2 output is in the Gw range.
The ep your talking about was Letters from pegasus and they used the remaining juice in the zpm to open the wormhole for 1 1/2 seconds

aAnubiSs
August 19th, 2005, 03:54 PM
We don't know if he made a ZPM or not.

Eoin
August 19th, 2005, 04:01 PM
We don't know if he made a ZPM or not.
I know he didnt make a ZPM, im saying that he made something like ZPM

aAnubiSs
August 19th, 2005, 04:17 PM
A "ZPM Type" power source would probably still use ZPE and therefore be a ZPM=))

EnigmaNZ
August 19th, 2005, 04:34 PM
600 percent, oh, damn memory, wonder where I got 200X from.
A CVN is one of the USN's carriers, but they are not turbo electric, the main turbines are connected to the propellers through gearboxes, only the power from the generators would be available, and thats a lot less than a typical civilian power station, 10's of megawatts versus gigawatts. A general lost enough naquada to make a BC, in order to make the superconducting cable from the nearest naval base, San Diego?

Eoin
August 19th, 2005, 04:38 PM
A "ZPM Type" power source would probably still use ZPE and therefore be a ZPM=))
ahwell, no harm in theorising :) , its all just speculation anyway ;)

aAnubiSs
August 19th, 2005, 04:38 PM
In what episode did they use a CVN to power the gate?

Sure you didn't read this in a fanfic, because I usually remember all these things, and I have no idea what you're talking about:)

Eoin
August 19th, 2005, 04:42 PM
A general lost enough naquada to make a BC, in order to make the superconducting cable from the nearest naval base, San Diego?
???, im lost (which is not unusual for me, lol)

EnigmaNZ
August 19th, 2005, 04:55 PM
Just reread the transcript for Letters from Pegasus.
Theye never used the ZPM.

FORD: No, ma'am. I'm suggesting we take their Z.P.M.

WEIR: Their only means of protection from the Wraith? A planet populated mostly by children?

McKAY: He raises a valid point. We've already established that the ZedPM is nearly depleted, but it could be of some limited use to us.

FORD: You asked for suggestions. It's a matter of survival.

WEIR: I see. Well, we're not quite there yet, and as long as I'm in charge, we will never be there.

They used the naquadah generators.

McKAY: I think we can send a message back to Earth through the Stargate.

BECKETT: Excuse me?!

WEIR: I thought we didn't have enough power.

McKAY: Not to send a person, no. We'd never be able to maintain the wormhole long enough. But I think if we were able to tie together all of our power-generating capabilities, we might -- and I emphasise might -- be able to establish a wormhole long enough to send a message.

SHEPPARD: How much time are we talking about?

McKAY: Well, approximately, uh, one point three seconds, give or take.

BECKETT: That's not much time.

FORD: Time enough to say, "S.O.S."!

McKAY: Don't be so analogue! One point three seconds is more than enough time to send a message if it's in the form of a high compression data burst. Now, I helped refine the encoding for the US Air Force a few years back. Colonel Carter should be able to, uh, decipher it on the other side.

SHEPPARD: You're suggesting this now?

McKAY: Because it probably won't work, and there's a very good chance it could overload our naqahdah generators in the process.

Eoin
August 19th, 2005, 05:06 PM
Just reread the transcript for Letters from Pegasus.
Theye never used the ZPM.

FORD: No, ma'am. I'm suggesting we take their Z.P.M.

WEIR: Their only means of protection from the Wraith? A planet populated mostly by children?

McKAY: He raises a valid point. We've already established that the ZedPM is nearly depleted, but it could be of some limited use to us.

FORD: You asked for suggestions. It's a matter of survival.

WEIR: I see. Well, we're not quite there yet, and as long as I'm in charge, we will never be there.

They used the naquadah generators.

McKAY: I think we can send a message back to Earth through the Stargate.

BECKETT: Excuse me?!

WEIR: I thought we didn't have enough power.

McKAY: Not to send a person, no. We'd never be able to maintain the wormhole long enough. But I think if we were able to tie together all of our power-generating capabilities, we might -- and I emphasise might -- be able to establish a wormhole long enough to send a message.

SHEPPARD: How much time are we talking about?

McKAY: Well, approximately, uh, one point three seconds, give or take.

BECKETT: That's not much time.

FORD: Time enough to say, "S.O.S."!

McKAY: Don't be so analogue! One point three seconds is more than enough time to send a message if it's in the form of a high compression data burst. Now, I helped refine the encoding for the US Air Force a few years back. Colonel Carter should be able to, uh, decipher it on the other side.

SHEPPARD: You're suggesting this now?

McKAY: Because it probably won't work, and there's a very good chance it could overload our naqahdah generators in the process.

Im pretty sure they used the ZPM, not the one from childhoods end, they wouldnt take that one, the ZPM that was there from the beggining had a little bit of juice left over which let them open the wormhole to earth for 1.5 seconds, if possible could you send me the transcript in a pm, well im gona watch that ep now, cause this will annoy me unless i find out which is right... :) lol

_Owen_
August 23rd, 2005, 10:07 AM
ok we ships that can power sheilds weaponsand a hole bunch of other stuff
so y cant we make another one of the power sorcies that power the ships and use it to power the gate for dialing to peagisis
Yes, the power required to make an eight chevron lock is much more than we use to power our ships.

Owen Macri