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saboteur
August 16th, 2005, 03:58 PM
Hello. I'm new here. I read the FAQ but I did not find any answer to a certain question that bothers me from the beginning.

Why is that one time when there is incoming wormhole the gate spins and "dials" locking cheverons one by one, ane the other time when there is incoming wormhole, the cheveron's light just turn on (they are activated) but the gate doesnt spin at all????

Quantum_Mind
August 16th, 2005, 05:45 PM
I will take a "stab" at that one.

The way I understand it, if the last place the gate dialed "dials" back then all the cheverons are in place, so they do not need to change.

p.s. my first post! hope I am close to being right.

saboteur
August 16th, 2005, 06:19 PM
I thought about that. But even when stargate didnt redial (or dial from a prior destination) but from somewhere else, the gate doesnt spin in newer episodes (I discovered it in 8th season), if someone keeps track of earlier seasons, please check if I am right to those also.

I just watched S8E13 - its good to be king, and when Jaffa came to claim the planet to their god, the Gate did not spin at all. Daniel and Teal'c witnessed it.
They just came from some place, prior to them tha gate was activated from Earth when Jack came through, so there is no chance Jaffa re-established wormhole so the gat didnt have to dial... (spin) so... as I understand it the Gate spins only when dialing out (to reach another gate adress) but when there is incoming worm hole the gate doeasnt have to spin to make a call (the same if you aswer the phone you dont have to push the numbers of your party :) ).

So WHY in some earlier episode the incoming wormhole made the gate spin????

MarshAngel
August 16th, 2005, 06:22 PM
I think it's safe to say any explanation you hear for this is going to be fanwank that requires speculation so far fetched that you may as well just accept the truth. They messed up. Then they fixed it.

saboteur
August 16th, 2005, 06:27 PM
Nope. Its not that simple. It goes like this - one episode it spins then it doesnt and then it spins again. So Its not about messing up, and fixing :P

captain keys
August 16th, 2005, 10:20 PM
ok i hope im helpful im more of an atlantis person so..they way i understand it
is thers fast dialing that u just push the buttons on the dhd one after the other and activate it and thats fast dialing well the sgc doesnt have a dhd so
we have to get so much power to the gate befor the inner track starts to spin and then we start to dialthis this can also be done with the dhd and is requerd for manule dialing

Xanderic
August 16th, 2005, 11:45 PM
DHD automatically connects to the symbols. We don't have a DHD. Therefore it's slow and it spins.

captain keys
August 16th, 2005, 11:49 PM
thats what i said

saboteur
August 17th, 2005, 03:47 AM
So you say that the Gate spins only when there is no DHD (you have to dial manually?) and the computers in SGC do that? But as I said the case and my problem is not about dialing OUT but about INCOMING wormholes :) So case not solved yet

captain keys
August 17th, 2005, 03:53 AM
same thing our gate does that and ive seen an off world gate do it at least once so case solved theres your answer

Ascended Times.2
August 17th, 2005, 04:23 AM
Personlly, i think TPTB were just experimenting with the whole gate spinning thing. i'm pretty sure that in season 1-3 the gate used to spin and lock in on incoming wormholes but then it changed to just spin and all the chevrons light up and only the top chevron( seventh) one locked in, now i'm pretty sure it all just lights up after spinning and, i think..all the chevrons lock in? i might have got the last two things mixed up. Whatever, if TPTB decide something, we jus tstick with it.

TPTB=The Power That Be, The writers and directors and what-not in short.

captain keys
August 17th, 2005, 04:42 AM
i agree

captain_kirk999
August 17th, 2005, 05:04 AM
In Season 2 episode 'Serpant's Song' where Sokar dials the Earth Gate and sends an energy weapon through the gate that causes the Gate Room to super-heat, Earth are unable to dial out and prevent Sokar from dialing in because the dialing computer is slow and Sokar can use a DHD very quickly.

To solve this problem, Carter came up with a program that sped up the dialing sequence so that Earth could dial out and send Apophis' body back to Sokar. This sequence still required the Gate's ring to spin, just faster.

Perhaps Carter has been able to create a program similar to the one in 'Serpant's Song' but that doesn't require the ring to spin, however, in Season 8's 'Avatar' where Carter and Teal'c try to send an overloading Naquada generator through the gate, we clearly see that the ring is still as slow as ever and the chevrons do lock.

This is just a huge problem of continuity throughout the whole show that could be called a kind of 'plot hole'

captain keys
August 17th, 2005, 05:11 AM
i couldnt agree with u more

_Owen_
August 24th, 2005, 10:42 PM
Well first, welcome to both Saboteur and Quantum_Mind, I hope you guys enjoy the forum.

As for the matter at hand I believe it has simply been inconsistent as sometimes the gate will spin for no apparent reason and other times it won't.

Perhaps it is that plot-sensing mechanism in the gate that does it. lol.

Owen Macri