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<FONT SIZE=1>EPISODE NUMBER - 322</FONT>
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SG-1 faces creatures of mass destruction that even the Asgard can't control, and must destroy Thor's infested vessel before the Replicator bugs reach Earth.

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Jane
May 22nd, 2004, 11:51 AM
I loved this episode, i mean its the first episode we get to see the Replicators and we get to see Thor again. There is also the fishing invitation at the beginning. :D

USS Thunderchild
May 22nd, 2004, 12:56 PM
Asgard and Replicators? Awesome. I loved seeing the Asgard homeworld, even if it was only for a bit, and I wish we had gotten to see a little more of the O'Neill. Oh well, still a great episode, and one of the first episodes I ever saw that helped draw me into the show. :)

Phil

SeaBee
June 7th, 2004, 06:59 AM
Asgard and Replicators? Awesome. I loved seeing the Asgard homeworld, even if it was only for a bit, and I wish we had gotten to see a little more of the O'Neill.
Phil

I agree. This was a good ep. I liked Jack's reactions when he was told about the ship, first that it was named after him, and then when he found out it was destroyed.

Crazedwraith
June 7th, 2004, 07:38 AM
Err we don't har about the O'Neill warship or see the asgard homeworld in this ep. I think your thinking of "Small Vicotires" All of this ep takes place either on earth or the belsknir.
Had really good quote though:

O'Neill (testing radio): Say something Teal'c.
Teal'c One small step for Jaffa.

Anubis
June 7th, 2004, 08:12 AM
The O'Neill was a great ship


I have to laugh at Teal'c's humour. It's so great

Crazedwraith
June 12th, 2004, 03:38 AM
I asloed loved Thor explaining about the replicators.
Thor: we brought on board are ship before we realised the danger.
O'Neill: We do that all the time, I expected better from you.

Selmak
July 10th, 2004, 08:51 PM
Every time SG-1 is aboard an asgard ship there is no crew... only thor.

AgentX
July 11th, 2004, 10:03 PM
Thor: we brought on board are ship before we realised the danger.
O'Neill: We do that all the time, I expected better from you.

:D That was great. Anytime Thor and Jack are together you know there are going to be some humourous exchanges. I loved this episode as it introduced the dreaded replicators and allowed us to see the Asgard in action.

Anubis
July 12th, 2004, 12:17 AM
Poor Thor was so innocent!

AgentX
July 12th, 2004, 09:15 AM
That's what was so great. Thor just doesn't understand Jack's different sense of humor.

Anubis
July 12th, 2004, 09:26 AM
True, I don't think the Asgard do jokes!

aAnubiSs
July 12th, 2004, 09:44 AM
Thor should take a crashcourse in Earth humor.

Selmak
July 15th, 2004, 06:53 PM
It was kind of a serious situation.

Selmak
July 26th, 2004, 07:44 PM
I remember Thor liked the yellow ones... that was funny

Asgard Buddy
August 18th, 2004, 05:55 AM
I loved it how they just took the Stargate :p

And Jack's description of the fish he could catch at that lake is great.

Major Fischer
August 18th, 2004, 06:33 AM
Actually, I think the reason Thor likes Jack is that he has the Asgard version of Jack's sense of humor. You see it a lot in Fair Game and Small Victories. The entire series of exchanges with Sam about her "dumb idea".

ibwolf
August 18th, 2004, 06:37 AM
Actually, I think the reason Thor likes Jack is that he has the Asgard version of Jack's sense of humor. You see it a lot in Fair Game and Small Victories. The entire series of exchanges with Sam about her "dumb idea".

Ah yes, Thor is basically Jack given a few thousand years to grow up a bit :)

Major Fischer
August 18th, 2004, 06:41 AM
I adore Thor's sense of humor. And Shanks timing with the delivery.

Daniel's_twin
September 28th, 2004, 09:18 AM
I was a little surprised when I found out that Michael Shanks was the voice of Thor. And even more surprised when he didn't really want it to be known.

I love this episode. Jack's first time (I think) threatening to take Carter fishing, she looked a little worried. Although, I can't help but wonder if she changed her mind before Jack was taken up.

Oh, yeah. This was definitely a high point in the writer's careers. The Replicators are a magnifiscent enemy, and magnificent piece of work on the CGI dept. I loved this episode. :cool:

Major Fischer
September 28th, 2004, 09:27 AM
I was a little surprised when I found out that Michael Shanks was the voice of Thor. And even more surprised when he didn't really want it to be known.

I think he really liked the idea of the mystery. After all, he was going to get payed for it and it wasn't like it was a huge addition to his resume.

Daniel's_twin
September 28th, 2004, 12:59 PM
True. :cool:

Jane
November 6th, 2004, 07:31 AM
I loved it how they just took the Stargate :p

And Jack's description of the fish he could catch at that lake is great.
Yes jacks description of the fish was good!

LMichelle
November 19th, 2004, 08:44 AM
i didn't really like this ep. The replicators don't really scare me. They're just animated Legos to me. :p

Not enough Daniel, either. I know MS was recovering from his appendectomy, but still. However we did get his voice with Thor, but not near as sexy as Daniel's. :D

Lisa Michelle

jyh
November 19th, 2004, 08:22 PM
First of all, they're not really like Legos, they're more like something made from and Erector Set. Same metallic type of construct.

Second of all, it's a 'given' that the replicators are sort of akin to the Borg from ST. They're primary goal is to gain technology, they operate individually yet for a collective purpose, and in this episode, when Jack first encountered them, they pretty much ignored him in search of better game (i.e, higher technology), and since he wasn't threatening to them at that moment (like the Borg).

So how come the replicators are so dangerous to humans? We're not made of any technological material, so we can't be assimilated, and unless we're actually shooting at them, we don't pose any major threat. Can they actually get inside our brains and "know what we know"?

Madeleine
November 19th, 2004, 08:32 PM
So how come the replicators are so dangerous to humans? We're not made of any technological material, so we can't be assimilated, and unless we're actually shooting at them, we don't pose any major threat.

They've probably decided that since we tend to shoot them, crash them into planets and generally attempt to annihilate them at every opportunity it's easiest if they do their pre-emptive strike thing.

And even if they aren't attacking people directly they tend not to need life support and so they eat it. Not good for humans on a space ship. They have differing views from the humans on navigation and other matters too.

Daniel's_twin
November 20th, 2004, 09:09 AM
While this is probably immaterial to this conversation, the new Human-form replicators can just go into your head and take the infomation. And another thing. Even though the Replicators may not immediately go after humans, whenever they take technology and raw materials, it seems they always destroy the people in that civilization, also. :cool:

Vapor
November 22nd, 2004, 12:03 PM
WHOA, Michael Shanks is the voice of Thor?! OMG, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT! THAT'S GREAT!

...Um, anyway, this was a pretty cool ep. The first one out of the last few that I was really into. I was a little scared for Thor there. He's so quiet and gentle, ya just don't want anything to happen to him. Good ep.

greytop
November 27th, 2004, 06:18 AM
Every time SG-1 is aboard an asgard ship there is no crew... only thor.
I believe there was in Small Victories. It is when Sam and Thor beam up to the ship from the Asgard world. There was Asgard in the background.

Erik Pasternak
December 12th, 2004, 03:01 PM
Every time SG-1 is aboard an asgard ship there is no crew... only thor.
Greytop is right, but we did have an explaination. This time...

Dead Jawa
January 9th, 2005, 09:33 PM
WHOA, Michael Shanks is the voice of Thor?! OMG, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT! THAT'S GREAT!

I noticed the last time I watched my season 6 DVDs that Shanks even did the voice of Thor in those episodes. I thought it was really cool that instead of having someone else do his voice they managed to get Shanks to do it.

PugGate
February 28th, 2005, 07:30 PM
Did anyone notice the little problem about the internal dampening field? Since the IDF was operational, shouldn't it prevent SG-1 from being able to fire their guns?

And Walter said it was going to hit off the coast of california, so why was a Russian sub in US waters? The sub picked up that replicator, so it must have been off the coast of california. :)

greytop
February 28th, 2005, 07:41 PM
And Walter said it was going to hit off the coast of california, so why was a Russian sub in US waters? The sub picked up that replicator, so it must have been off the coast of california. :)
The same reason that we probably have subs off Russia coast. To spy on us.

PugGate
March 3rd, 2005, 07:18 PM
What about the little problem with the internal dampening field? Is the explosion too small?

SmartFox
March 18th, 2005, 08:44 PM
What about the little problem with the internal dampening field? Is the explosion too small?
Yea its not big enough to activate them.

Also they said Thor's ship crashed 400 miles off the coast of California. Thats international waters and thats why Russia was able to keep the Stargate.

Willow
April 5th, 2005, 01:14 PM
This will probably show how thick I am, but wouldn't that ship crashing into the ocean have caused a tidal wave?

greytop
April 5th, 2005, 03:27 PM
This will probably show how thick I am, but wouldn't that ship crashing into the ocean have caused a tidal wave?Not if it broken up into smaller pieces. Which I believe it was, when it was blown up as it hit the amptosphere.

QuiGonJohn
May 15th, 2005, 10:01 AM
Every time SG-1 is aboard an asgard ship there is no crew... only thor.
Another thing I thought of. They are awfully big ships with awfully big hallways, for such little people. :D

I enjoyed this episode. Was surprised about them taking the Stargate.

Perriman33
August 12th, 2005, 12:39 AM
Asgard and the replicators..way cool! There were jokes galore in this one most have been mentioned previously. I think thor and jack would make a great comedy duo. I thought it hilarious that unlike us the asgard actually gain colour when they are ill. :D
Thor's ship was amazing but like QuiGonJohn said the interior was huge much bigger than the asgard need unless they have a lot of large visitors or are claustrophobic! ;)
The replicator's have to be the best villains that we have had, anyone remotely afraid of bugs will hate them instantly. I think the best bit is when they make that scurrying noise and you know they are just behind the wall.
Was funny about the stargate disappearing, hammond didn't seem worried he just ordered the spare to be brought out.! :)

Stricken
September 8th, 2005, 03:46 AM
Yes, a new enemy to kick their butts, "they have butts" anyway good to see Thor back although he did go away from us for a while

Ascendant
September 9th, 2005, 03:42 AM
i didn't really like this ep. The replicators don't really scare me. They're just animated Legos to me. :p
Personally, I adore the Replicators. They're actually kinda cute, which is a nice contrast to the Goa'uld. Plus, they're really creative creatures. The first non-humanoid aliens we've had, and I like the fact that they're not consciously trying to destroy or enslave us. They're not evil. They're just incompatible with other life. And I love it when they do that little wing-shake thing.

I thought this was a great episode. It was the first season finale, season premiere, or two-parter without the Goa'uld, so it feels nice and distinctive. The sets are gorgeous, and there's lots of action what with Sam, Jack and Teal'c pouring round after round into the Replicators.

(And I was shocked to find out that Michael Shanks did Thor's voice, too. I just found that out today!)

walter_MacChevron
September 15th, 2005, 09:33 PM
Good intro to the replicators......but the cliffhanger is good! I mean, one sole replicator could have been a long running storyline!...........a replicator army on earth..........but the cliffhanger also implies that SG-1 dies (that's totally obvious)

Metarock Sam
September 23rd, 2005, 08:42 AM
This ep also showed that ASG-1 doesnt always finish their job properly and the consequences are dire.

skritsys
October 27th, 2005, 10:00 AM
I thought this was one of the better episodes...got to see a more darker perpsective and a few homages to Alien.

timdalton007
November 4th, 2005, 09:24 AM
A good episode. The introduction of the replicators was great! The cliffhanger at the end of the episode was also good and added a lot of tension as to wether or not SG-1 had survived. I have one question about the episode though: why was Teal'c doing the EVA in a spacve suit from the Apollo era instead of a more recent suit?

timdalton007

Samuel J. Tilden
November 9th, 2005, 10:13 PM
This was a reasonably good episode and as the last show of the "good Stargate" (S1-3) era, it does hold a special place in my heart. The lack of Daniel was a major detriment, and I've always found it difficult to accept that little bugs could pose such a major threat to the almighty Asgard. The bug-blasting bits were pretty fun though and the ol' "beam the Stargate up to provide an escape route" trick was great.

captain jake
June 1st, 2006, 07:08 PM
Yes it kinda downplayed the asgard, made them seam very mortal.

But face it if this didn't happen what would the show do? Earth couldn't just find some invincible ally to kill everybody for them.

Sheppard
July 20th, 2006, 12:27 AM
every time the replicators come to attack the asgard earth always have to help

Harlan's Speechwriter
July 18th, 2007, 10:24 PM
Stargate just keeps getting better! It's always good to see Thor again. The replicators make a great nemesis, especially since, for once, the superior technology of the Asgard can't defeat them, but SG1 manages it.

I loved Teal'c's "one small step for Jaffa" line.

Integrabyte
December 29th, 2007, 09:57 AM
Stargate just keeps getting better! It's always good to see Thor again. The replicators make a great nemesis, especially since, for once, the superior technology of the Asgard can't defeat them, but SG1 manages it.

I loved Teal'c's "one small step for Jaffa" line.

Hahaha, laughed my ass off as well when I heard it !

Crichiel
January 23rd, 2008, 07:26 PM
Great episode, a nice introduction to one of the best bad guys on SG-1. As a Daniel Freak, I was sad he couldn't be in more, but there's nothing you can do when an unexpected medical emerency pops up while you are filming! :) I thought it brilliant how they wrote him out.

Anyway, as I said, the Replicators were cool, the ship crashing was neat, and everyone had some really great and heroic moments. Liked the quick thinking on SG-1's part in beaming up the Gate!

Teddybrown
March 26th, 2008, 03:05 AM
First insight into the Asgard enemy and a real look at the Asgard
Good episode
I think we willl be seeing more of them
Spoilers for Season 5, 6 and 8, Ark Of Truth and Stargate Atlantis!!!
In lots of Seasons, especially Season 8 and we even get them in Ark Of Truth.

In Season 5 we see them take over Apophis ship but SG1 stop them from going to the Milky Way Galaxy and then we see them with Reese ( Episode = Menace ), the apparent creator of the Replicators and she tries to get out of Earth by over running the base with Replicators. She is eventually shot by Jack O Neil because he thinks she is losing control of them, even though she says shes not. The Replicators then fall to pieces and Daniel believes they have lost the only way of destroying the Replicators.

Then in Season 6 ( Episode = Unnatural Selection ) SG1 are called in to activate a time dilation device to trap the Replicators on a planet. We meet humanoid Replicators and Fifth and eventually Carter persuades Fifth to help them on the condition they take him with them. They cant have this so SG1 trick him by setting the timer to three minutes, not five like they promised him. This is probably why he captures Carter in Season 8 and makes a humanoid Replicator in her image.

They are a bloody nuisance in Season 8 with First and Replicarter, wont go into much detail, but we finally destroy them in Dakara with that weapon but not before Replicarter kills Daniel.

In The Ark Of Truth the IOA man makes them on the Odyssey using the Asgard Core and they nearly destroy SG1 because they alert the Ori to where they are and 4 Ori motherships start trying to destroy them but Sam manages to stop the Replicators just in time and Mitchell gets beaten up by the IOA man thats been overrun by Replicators.

We also see them in Atlantis in a new form and they cause a heck of a nuisance to the Atlantis team till they are finally destroyed in Be All My Sins Remember'd but we still dont know if they were all destroyed. Season 5 tells us they are not.

captain jake
June 30th, 2008, 11:16 PM
One of the best season finales of all time. The galaxy gets a lot bigger by adding this parasitic enemy that threatens the Asgard. I think the writers were amazingly original with the idea surrounding the Replicators. Essentially this enemy is so high-tech that they could only be defeated by a considerably primitive society.

It was a shame that even though we were able to defeat the Replicators we couldn't save the Asgard.

HelloVelo
July 9th, 2008, 08:53 PM
Replicators!

Rating: 9/10

Full Review: http://stargatesummer.blogspot.com/2008/07/nemesis.html

Ulkesh47
July 15th, 2008, 09:37 PM
This is really a turning point for the series.

The Replicators are introduced, the SGC loses the Alpha Gate, and Thor's ship is destroyed. Great season finale.

L E E
July 17th, 2008, 10:55 PM
Woohoo! Not a clipshow! That's the first thing I liked about this season ender.

Love those bugs! Great pacing. Of course, always nice to see Thor. It's also amazing how fast they seem to learn to work the controls of the Beliskner.

SG1FanOregon
August 6th, 2008, 06:45 PM
Ah yes, Thor is basically Jack given a few thousand years to grow up a bit :)

I hope Jack never grows up :jack:

SG1FanOregon
August 6th, 2008, 06:56 PM
Did anyone notice the little problem about the internal dampening field? Since the IDF was operational, shouldn't it prevent SG-1 from being able to fire their guns?

And Walter said it was going to hit off the coast of california, so why was a Russian sub in US waters? The sub picked up that replicator, so it must have been off the coast of california. :)

The russians can watch out fleet movements from out ports that way. The same we've always done with our subs off their coasts..

s72450
August 23rd, 2008, 09:18 PM
Great episode and a good ending to an awesome season. I can't wait to watch Season Four now!

Black_Sheep
September 12th, 2008, 06:48 PM
Great episode and a good ending to an awesome season. I can't wait to watch Season Four now!

Couldn't agree more. Unfortunately, i have to wait few weeks until i can begin season 4. But i know it's worth the wait.

heliosphere
February 13th, 2009, 11:05 AM
I just rewatched this today because I wanted to get a feel for mid-season Jack again. I do hope this is the sort of Jack we get to see in the third movie. There's a nice balance of leadership and a bit of being smartass and only a little bit of Simpsonness in his performance here. I kind of wish they would have let Sam handle some of the bigger weapons rather than staying back with Thor, but she needed to do her brilliant genius thing.

I quite missed Daniel though. I wonder how he would have fit into this plotline if MS hadn't gotten ill? I kind of take the season finale of three as some of the last bits on trying to really integrate Daniel's original specialties into the story for a really long time (almost until season 9 IMO). It seems like so many times afterward, he's sort of off to the side on things or used as the source of conflict or in his own B storyline in the same episode; just not integrated too much as they brought the focus onto the military and more onto Sam and Jack bantering.

I like the entrance of new enemies and the newer plot threads, but when I rewatch, I realize I'm kind of sad that this seems to be the turning point of exploration-type episodes.

Butlersgate
February 23rd, 2009, 02:58 PM
teal'c in the space suit is just priceless, one small step for jaffa lmao LOVE IT

balo
March 3rd, 2009, 08:37 AM
Wow , what a great season final!!!!!

The Replicators looks like a huge enemy , can't wait for the next episode!
:replicatoranime01: :replicatoranime01:


Maybe the best episode of season 3 !

Teal'c : "one small step for Jaffa" :p

Rating : 9 /10

Butlersgate
March 5th, 2009, 07:05 AM
Wow , what a great season final!!!!!

The Replicators looks like a huge enemy , can't wait for the next episode!
:replicatoranime01: :replicatoranime01:


Maybe the best episode of season 3 !

Teal'c : "one small step for Jaffa" :p

Rating : 9 /10

you are in for a great ride :D

The Stig
April 26th, 2009, 03:50 PM
This is the episode that changed the series and forum forever. If the replicators weren't introduced then there wouldn't be debates about them being over used.

Pic
May 26th, 2009, 01:38 PM
I just rewatched this today because I wanted to get a feel for mid-season Jack again. I do hope this is the sort of Jack we get to see in the third movie. There's a nice balance of leadership and a bit of being smartass and only a little bit of Simpsonness in his performance here. I kind of wish they would have let Sam handle some of the bigger weapons rather than staying back with Thor, but she needed to do her brilliant genius thing.

I quite missed Daniel though. I wonder how he would have fit into this plotline if MS hadn't gotten ill? I kind of take the season finale of three as some of the last bits on trying to really integrate Daniel's original specialties into the story for a really long time (almost until season 9 IMO). It seems like so many times afterward, he's sort of off to the side on things or used as the source of conflict or in his own B storyline in the same episode; just not integrated too much as they brought the focus onto the military and more onto Sam and Jack bantering.

I like the entrance of new enemies and the newer plot threads, but when I rewatch, I realize I'm kind of sad that this seems to be the turning point of exploration-type episodes.

I have to agree with you about Jack in these episodes. It's like this is where he really hits his stride as a character. Also, Daniel's character is somewhat left to his own devices now that they've "resolved" his search for his wife and the harsesis child.

I thought Sam did pretty well taking out the bugs in that last scene, but yes, she was needed for scientist-y things. Teal'c seems to exist to get beat up though, once again he's on the verge of death and only the existence of junior allows him to survive (this time in the role of lack-of-o2).

Not that I'm complaining. I actually found the past few episodes (I'm rewatching in order) to be hilarious and am having a grand time. Even in this episode, Jack's interactions with Daniel and Sam before he was beamed up were pretty funny.

Side note: What was up with Sam's turtleneck? Was she hiding a hickey or something? ;)

Automission
September 17th, 2009, 07:04 AM
Hmm maybe I'm missing something, but at the end of the episode Sam and Thor beam to the gate. How did they beam locations if the transporter wasn't working in the first place? Beaming down of course.

jsonitsac
September 17th, 2009, 11:54 AM
It was working, Thor just wanted to limit its usage because the Replicators were attracted to its energy output.

Automission
September 17th, 2009, 12:59 PM
No the ability to teleport items up was working, not the ability to teleport down, or so thor said. This means Carter shouldn't technically of been able to do so.

mrscopterdoc
March 12th, 2010, 01:46 PM
So this is the episode in which the replicators are first seen. Interesting how they change over time.

StargateWatcher
March 30th, 2010, 10:18 PM
I loved this episode, i mean its the first episode we get to see the Replicators and we get to see Thor again. There is also the fishing invitation at the beginning. :D

touche!

StargateWatcher
March 30th, 2010, 10:21 PM
Actually, I think the reason Thor likes Jack is that he has the Asgard version of Jack's sense of humor. You see it a lot in Fair Game and Small Victories. The entire series of exchanges with Sam about her "dumb idea".

interestin assessment here

maneth
September 4th, 2010, 10:43 AM
Wow, what a finale! I loved how they put the new title sequence in for this, and the FX budget seems to have been given a huge boost too. Yikes, but the replicators creep me out for sure.

Darkland
September 18th, 2010, 11:34 PM
Great episode. I love Thor and these replicator things were interesting.

I loved the whole fishing thing from Jack to Carter. :) Wonder if she did actually reconsider his invitation before he got beamed up by Thor. Any Thor episode is an awesome episode to me!! The writing in this was brilliant, the plot and I loved the fact that Thor named a new ship after Jack O Neil. Priceless.

Noxbait
February 3rd, 2011, 04:53 PM
Whats not to luv? This is one of my top fav 2 parters. Love it all. Love Thor and his interactions with Jack. Totally awesome. I think that Thor does, as someone before posited, have a sense of humor that is truly the Asgard version of Jack. They are too fun together. Love the new plot line about the Replicators. I always love them as bugs, though the human forms are cool in their own way, but they are just so cool as these menacing...you can't talk to them or reason with them monsters. The humor in this one is great, and I love the interactions between Daniel and Hammond. Very nicely done. Also, I always love it when Major Davis drops by!

FrodoFraggins
April 1st, 2011, 07:01 PM
9/10

Much better than the clip-show finale of the previous season.

I'm not sure SG-1 was worth losing a stargate over though. And if the replicators have gained asgard technology, what would keep them from stealing Stargate Beta and leaving earth without a stargate.

Niddle
April 2nd, 2011, 05:42 PM
I'm watching the episode on my new series boxed set, but noticed it uses the "generic" opening credits from the CotG pilot. (No faces, the Egyptian statue and onscreen lettering only.)

Did the episode air that way originally, and if so why? (I can't recall seeing it this way when it aired on SyFy, which would have been the only place I'd have seen it.) Do other DVD releases have it the same way?

Seems an odd way for the third season to close.

WonderWoman2K
October 15th, 2011, 01:22 PM
I'm watching d whole series on streaming video but I heard they r playin re-runs on scifi, I would like 2wait up 4more comments 2come up bout d series, is this true? :samanime15:

Seaboe Muffinchucker
October 18th, 2011, 09:18 PM
These two (Nemesis and its other half) are the only episodes with the replicators I like.

Most SF series suffer from the same problem. An enemy is created, the writers make the enemy easier to defeat, so they then have to create a worse enemy, so that Our Heroes are always the underdog. It doesn't reflect reality and I find it annoying. It's just not realistic (not that SF is ever realistic, but still).

I like this because it makes it clear that Major Davis is very different from Kennedy or Maybourne. Too bad he never made Colonel. :D

At this point, the replicators are not evil--so of course the writers had to make them human so they could make them evil. Sigh.

Seaboe

Krisz
October 22nd, 2011, 12:54 PM
"One small step for Jaffa."

My favourite episode of the season and in my top ten of all Stargate episodes. It is from here SG-1 really hit its stride for me.

This was non stop action, loads of suspense and great special effects, apart from Thor's ship hitting the ocean!

I remember wondering how I would survive the months between seasons when I first watched the cliff hanger ending of seeing that one surviving replicator sitting on the floating wreckage. That's how much this show had grabbed my interest by this time. :)

Lieutenant Sparrow
October 23rd, 2011, 06:34 PM
Yay original Replicators. Not the stupid human form ones.

And yay Thor. Now that I know Michael Shanks voices him, I can't stop thinking he sounds like Michello. Great to learn more about the Beliskner as well.

Now for the painful wait for season 4. Can't believe it has already been 3 months.

SG1Member
October 25th, 2011, 07:28 PM
This is a very good episode, although there are a number of plot holes. First, as others have observed, the Asgard are small, yet the make their ships gigantic. Do they even need corridors if they use the transporter technology to move around?

Also, if they replicators were in control of most of the ship, why did leave the life support on if they didn't need it? Or why didn't they deactivate it when SG-1 came aboard? For that matter, why were they even going to Earth? They seem to prefer advanced technology, and there are more advanced planets than Earth.

Maybe I'm over-analyzing the episode, but I tend to notice things like this.

hedwig
October 25th, 2011, 09:06 PM
Also, if they replicators were in control of most of the ship, why did leave the life support on if they didn't need it? Or why didn't they deactivate it when SG-1 came aboard? For that matter, why were they even going to Earth? They seem to prefer advanced technology, and there are more advanced planets than Earth.


They "went to earth" because Thor took his ship to earth, thinking we could help the Asgard destroy the replicators. Otherwise, the replicators would not have known about earth for a long time to come. I believe Thor said something along these lines to O'Neill when he first arrived on the ship.

Seaboe Muffinchucker
October 26th, 2011, 06:40 AM
They "went to earth" because Thor took his ship to earth, thinking we could help the Asgard destroy the replicators.

Actually, Thor says they got into his computer, found out about Earth and plotted a course here. He stayed on board to try to prevent them from reaching us.

I would guess the computer had something about the availability of important minerals here. Because it really doesn't otherwise make sense that a creature attracted to advanced technology would come here.

Seaboe

Brother Freyr
October 28th, 2011, 04:27 PM
Here we have something I appreciate about Stargate SG-1. The series "ups the ante" of enemy threats. When enemies become old, stale, and less threatening, the show's creators give us something new and scarier. :eek:



If they replicators were in control of most of the ship, why did leave the life support on if they didn't need it? Or why didn't they deactivate it when SG-1 came aboard?
Replicators usually attack only when they conclude someone is a direct threat. The replicators could have switched off life support upon SG-1's arrival, but they just don't "care." OTOH, the replicators deem SG-1 a threat toward the end of the episode, and they could/should have vented SG-1's section of the ship at that point.


why were they even going to Earth? They seem to prefer advanced technology, and there are more advanced planets than Earth.Their primary objective is self-replication. We have a planet full of refined iron, steel, & other metals. Replicators can do their own mining & refining, but they prefer to "eat" the pre-made stuff. From a materials perspective, we're a large feast.


Maybe I'm over-analyzing the episode, but I tend to notice things like this.So do I. :) Has anyone noticed replicators have a seemingly unlimited supply of acid? Power, too. Individual replicators don't ever run out.

Seaboe Muffinchucker
October 28th, 2011, 07:34 PM
Here we have something I appreciate about Stargate SG-1. The series "ups the ante" of enemy threats. When enemies become old, stale, and less threatening, the show's creators give us something new and scarier.
Interesting to see you like something I think sucks and makes the show horribly unrealistic. It just shows to go.

Seaboe

Brother Freyr
October 28th, 2011, 10:45 PM
Interesting to see you like something I think sucks and makes the show horribly unrealistic. It just shows to go.Ha! Yea, I guess it does. :D Although, I agree replicators have serious issues vis a vis realism/believability. My appreciation is for the general trend of cranking up the danger when the old threat has grown less frightening. TPTB do this several times through the series.

Seaboe Muffinchucker
October 29th, 2011, 08:33 AM
My appreciation is for the general trend of cranking up the danger when the old threat has grown less frightening. TPTB do this several times through the series.
The problem is, the old threat becomes less frightening because TPTB slack off on them. If the jaffa had remained as hard to kill as they were in the first few episodes, there would've been plenty of potential for fear. And if the other goa'uld had been as hard to kill as Apophis was, believe me, Earth would not have become complacent.

Seaboe

Brother Freyr
October 29th, 2011, 02:27 PM
True. Above all, adding Earth to the Protected Planets treaty reduced the imminent threat of the goa'uld.

Still, old enemies eventually become boring. Would you have watched 10 years of SG-1 vs. Goa'uld? I doubt that I would have.

Starscape91
October 29th, 2011, 11:53 PM
I always liked watching this episode probably because of all the action. Not to mention I love the Asgard.

Matt G
October 30th, 2011, 06:03 PM
So, 6pm, I've just finished watching Crystal Skull for the first time and head for the toilet thinking that's SG1 done for the day only for Mum to call me back down. Another new ep? Well...

1. Jack gets beamed up to Thor's ship...and...what the hell are these things?

2. Thor looked pretty rough.

3. Of course SAm and Teal'c were going to back him up, not sure there would have been much use for Daniel here other than, as he said to stand with his team.

4. Forgot how much our guys avoided battle with he reps and then...wall of death!

5. Just when you thought the bugs were done for though...oh crap...

End of what had been a very long marathon.

mathpiglet
October 31st, 2011, 11:19 AM
I don't like the replicators! But, I do like Thor, and it's good that the Asgard do have a weakness.

NowIWillDestroyAbydos
October 31st, 2011, 06:58 PM
Best episode of Season 3.

Nemesis began what is called, in my opinion, good SG-1 (otherwise known as the "Growing the Beard (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GrowingTheBeard)" phase of the series. Which ended at the end of Season 8.

This was my first full episode of SG-1 I watched (on a Skiffy rerun), apparently.

Now we "lost" the original Giza Stargate, and Season 4 begins with the Beta/Antarctic Gate in place at the SGC. I'm going to try to keep a note on that tally during the rest of the SG-1 part of Stargate Rewatch.

Tomorrow, we begin the next phase of journey, the fourth season of SG-1, and the conclusion of this cliffhanger. It will also bring Joe and Paul to the series. And because the DVD is the first season with them, I plan on watching the commentary of that day's episode, then watch the episode later that day (I've seen all the episodes, so yeah).

Jae'a
November 1st, 2011, 01:33 PM
My LiveJournal post (http://jo-r-lee.livejournal.com/18044.html)
Going to watch part 2 now. :D

SaraBahama
November 3rd, 2011, 07:43 PM
I love the banter between Jack and Sam at the beginning -a fishing invitation (she seems surprised, caught off gaurd).

Jack's refusal to allow the rest of the team to beam up, because he knows that it will doom them, and he will not gamble their lives, but he's determined to do whatever necessary to destroy the "bugs". He's pretty ticked when they beam up anyway -but he needs them, and I think he knows that down deep.

I love the solution of beaming up the gate in order to escape, while denying the replicators a means of escape.

This 2-parter is a action-packed romp.

jelgate
November 5th, 2011, 02:43 PM
This episode seems very simliar to the S1 finale. SG1 is on an alien ship trying to prevent them from attacking Earth. I know that is a vague comparassion but their are simlairties between the two episodes. It is still a enterraining episode none the less. This episode seems to set the standard of Carter mans the computer while Jack and Teal'c run around the ship. The action I find is good for such a small set. It was enough to keep my attention as SG1 come up with an idea to blow up the Bleskinar even if I knew they were never in danger. The idea of putting a bomb inside shields seems interesting enough. And using the gate to escape was a nice piece of continuity. Although the naqudah in the gate should have exploded when Thor's ship crashed into the Pacific Ocean. I do have to say it is somewhat cliche to show a lone Replicator in the final scene

Matt G
December 3rd, 2011, 04:08 PM
Just rewatched with the commentary

1. Didn't realise that that first scene was adlibbed.

2. Once again, I never expected to see the "enemy of the Asgard".

3. Jack-hologram looking like a carwash, not bad!

4. Teal'c kicking off quicker, not so bad.

Dimes
December 27th, 2011, 03:34 AM
Thor and Jack together is just hilarious ^^
Incredible good episode!!!

Sam-n-Jack-in-<3
July 26th, 2012, 03:23 PM
Attack of the Lego-Spiders! Ruuuuun! :p

An excellent episode in several ways...
-Jack asks Sam to go fishing for the first time
-The first time we see of the replicators
-Daniel cannot join the action due to a recent appendix surgery

And of course, it's a cliffhangar. Will Sg-1 save the day? Find out next week! ;)

Zaany
August 19th, 2012, 07:31 AM
One small step for Jaffa

Major Clanger
May 6th, 2013, 08:00 AM
and all I'm going to say about this is:

1) One small step for Jaffa

b) replicaTORs

iii) Asgard

yaayy

REPLICATOR SAM
May 29th, 2013, 04:33 PM
I love this story.
And seeing the replicators for the first was fantastic.
they are so scary yet so small.

i love how thor explains everything about them.


Yeah the O neill brilliant :D
He is not happy when its blown up.

Falcon Horus
June 11th, 2013, 04:36 PM
And thus ends season 3... and just when I was getting used to not seeing the mask intro, what do I get for the final episode on my DVD-set... yup, the mask of Ra. :p That, and my DVD's always start up in French, which basically means if I'm not paying too close attention the episodes will start playing dubbed in French. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing... but I prefer the original thing. :p

Anyway... Replicators -- woohoo!!

They look very purple-ish. They change more towards grey which is a far better color for them. They look like toy-bugs in their purple state, not that it makes them less lethal, but it almost gives them a "cute" look.

Michael's unfortunate real life appendix getting in the way, but worked in just fine. And now Daniel knows how the General feels when his first team is off getting into all sorts of trouble off-world. :p That'll teach em...

That replicator crawling out of the sea and onto the wreckage... uh oh, not good. Great end-shot.

Baron Of Hell
June 20th, 2013, 01:38 PM
This is where I stopped watching SG1. I picked it back up around 7 or 8 I think. The Replicators story line marked a down hill point for me. Watching this episode again I'm still not liking it. I don't like anything about the enemy. I hate the look, the concept, everything.

Seaboe Muffinchucker
June 21st, 2013, 07:53 AM
BoH, there are a lot of episodes in seasons 4-6 without replicators. I liked this and Small Victories, but pretty much hated the replicators once they introduced the human form ones. This (along with the ORI) is IMO, a perfect example of the escalation of villains that happens with most TV shows and contributes to their unreality in a not-good way.

Seaboe

ajay
April 6th, 2014, 05:45 AM
They look very purple-ish. They change more towards grey which is a far better color for them. They look like toy-bugs in their purple state, not that it makes them less lethal, but it almost gives them a "cute" look.


I always figured the replicator change color depending on what they "eat". They turned grey because of the iron and steel feedstock they consumed on Earth.

Anyway, perhaps someone can answer something for me. And apologies if this has been brought up already. Major Davis says the stargate they beam up to the ship has enough power in it to dial out once. If that's the case, why did they need a lightning strike to power the gate to dial out from Ernest's planet? Or other episodes where they have to hook up a naquadah generator to dial out?

Britta
April 6th, 2014, 06:18 AM
Perhaps because the gate had just been hooked up to the SGC power supply. Maybe the DHD on Ernest's planet had been damaged long enough for that gate's charge to dissipate.

fems
April 8th, 2014, 04:49 AM
I would also guess that the difference is that the SGC's gate doesn't rely on a DHD and has its own power source, much like it having been attached to a naquadah generator (which they really should have done later on to save on the electric bill...).

Anja
September 12th, 2015, 09:17 AM
I like it when new evil or good characters are introduced - these buggers are creepy, nasty and new to the SGC. Much to expect if you watch for the first time. Would like to have one as a toy - I should have contacted Reese.;)

Nirude
May 19th, 2016, 09:27 AM
So does anyone know what Daniel's (well Michael Shanks's) role was in the original script before he got struck down by that burst appendix? I heard he was heavily involved before they just shot the whole thing without him.

And obviously the fishing invitation thing was lifted by Atlantis for Sunday, I definitely have no problems with that :D

I like the replicaTors, not their best episode but at least it introduced us to the beauty that is shotgun vs replicator.

Seaboe Muffinchucker
May 20th, 2016, 07:50 AM
the beauty that is shotgun vs replicator.

:lol: I like this.

Seaboe

Anja
May 22nd, 2016, 06:04 AM
:lol: I like this.

Seaboe

Yes, pieces being scattered all around.

maneth
June 12th, 2016, 09:26 AM
Creepy and claustrophobic. That scuttling sound gives me the creeps every time.

Tyrathraxus
June 21st, 2016, 11:41 PM
Maneth: Agreed. Esp when you hear it before you see it.

I liked this episode. Esp when O'Neill ordered them to stay out of it. I mean really? Could it be any more obvious they would be beamed up too?

Anja
June 22nd, 2016, 11:31 AM
Maneth: Agreed. Esp when you hear it before you see it.

I liked this episode. Esp when O'Neill ordered them to stay out of it. I mean really? Could it be any more obvious they would be beamed up too?

As their commanding officer he had to order them not to come.

Tyrathraxus
June 22nd, 2016, 10:01 PM
Oh yeah, but as soon as Hammond was in on their meeting couldn't you tell he would just override him .. I know I could!

jelgate
June 23rd, 2016, 05:45 AM
Given Jack's insubordination, do you think he would listen? Remember, he is in control of the Asgard ship

Tyrathraxus
June 26th, 2016, 07:33 PM
Jack wasn't in control of much . He had to watch the videos to pick it up and even then I doubt he could do anything they were not already programmed to do.

jelgate
June 26th, 2016, 07:37 PM
He could choose not to beam them up

Anja
June 27th, 2016, 03:10 AM
He could choose not to beam them up

Maybe he didn't know - didn't he want to beam up stuff??

jelgate
June 27th, 2016, 01:50 PM
That is my point. I think its a fair assumption that Thor probably programmed the beam technology to target in front of the Stargate. If Hammond insisted SG-1 beam up, its not a far stretch for Jack to not beam up anything

Anja
June 28th, 2016, 03:24 AM
Perhaps he knew they would come and he was sure they would find a way out of the mess.

jelgate
June 28th, 2016, 08:01 AM
That's a contradiction to the episode

Anja
June 29th, 2016, 02:06 AM
Why? They did find a way out!!

Seaboe Muffinchucker
June 29th, 2016, 07:13 AM
Yes, but Jack was not sure they would find a way out. In fact, right until the last minute, all indications were that they would not. The script indicates that Jack thought they were going to die.

Seaboe

Anja
June 30th, 2016, 02:34 AM
It's a story which was to be continued - they couldn't all die! Jack O'Neill would have been the last character to think along that lines, and I don't think that the actors were told what to think!

Falcon Horus
June 30th, 2016, 02:48 AM
The show got renewed -- that's what saved them. :p

jelgate
June 30th, 2016, 06:35 AM
Well duh. Everyone knows no weapon is stronger than the character shield

Seaboe Muffinchucker
June 30th, 2016, 07:16 AM
I don't think that the actors were told what to think!

I didn't say the actors were. I said Jack thought that. You clearly disagree, which is fine.

Seaboe

Falcon Horus
March 2nd, 2018, 09:42 AM
That's the end of season 3... and damn, it's a very exciting ending.

It actually came as a surprise to me that I still was on the edge of my proverbial seat the entire time of the episode. You'd think after all this time, and knowing how the story continues, that I would just be "ah yeah, good story but they'll live so moving on"... nope, I was still pulled in entirely. Pretty much "Oh, they're not gonna make it, they're not gonna make it..."

Pretty amazing really.

Also, when Jack shoots the replicators the first time, they reform. I can't remember the replicators doing that again any time we come across them. Or do they?

Love the little buggers though. Always loved their design, and that distinct mechanical sound they make -- sends chills down my spine every single time. :D Love it! :replicatoranime01:

The story is solid. The characters have some great interactions, and Teal'c's "one small step for jaffa" is another quote to cherish.

Ah, another thing I totall dig... beaming up the stargate and Teal'c singlehandedly dialing out like it's nothing.

How would you rate SG-1's "Nemesis?"

Excellent
Good
Fair
Poor
Terrible

hedwig
March 2nd, 2018, 01:25 PM
It's a story which was to be continued - they couldn't all die! Jack O'Neill would have been the last character to think along that lines, and I don't think that the actors were told what to think!

In my opinion, a good director would very likely tell the actors what he wants them to think in a particular scene. Maybe the director wouldn't always do it, but they would do it. :)

jelgate
March 10th, 2018, 07:58 PM
One thing that bugs me (no pun intended) about this episode is I struggle believing the Replicators are the reason the Asgard have let the Goa'uld get so bad. It's hard to believe that these two have been fighting for hundreds of years. Besides that I do love this episode. It reminds me of the S1 finale. Running around alien ships seems to be an SG1 classic. Ill give if an excellent

Falcon Horus
March 16th, 2018, 05:16 PM
The week comes to a close so I'm dropping the jigsaw puzzle and the quiz-link. And I'd like to remind everyone that it's the end of the season so I'll be posting the results of season 2 next week (or Sunday, depending on how much time I have) so if you still want to cast your vote on that, follow this link (https://goo.gl/forms/UamP3oTvufajvTu82).

The 3-episode quiz: Nemesis, Small Victories (S4) & The Other Side (S4) (https://goo.gl/forms/hgAKazNUzohCzEqW2)

And the Nemesis (https://www.jigidi.com/solve.php?id=NM4YARGG) jigsaw puzzle which I haven't had a chance to solve so no reference times yet.

Falcon Horus
March 18th, 2018, 08:06 AM
Okay, that was not the best picture for a jigsaw, too grainy. I apologize in advance.

Took me 11 minutes and 12 seconds.

jelgate
March 19th, 2018, 04:58 PM
It may be too grainy for you mortals but the master did in 9 minutes and 38 seconds

Who Knows
March 20th, 2018, 12:35 AM
21:30.

Falcon Horus
March 21st, 2018, 03:20 AM
I may have to switch it out for a better image.... This one's from Gateworld's screencap gallery.

BethHG
June 26th, 2018, 09:20 AM
21:33 -- I was a bit distracted.

Fantastic episode! Thor, replicators, Teal'c in a spacesuit, beaming up and blowing up a Stargate were my favorite parts of the episode!

Platschu
August 27th, 2018, 11:04 AM
3x22 Nemesis
1.There were no start behind Teal’c in one scene, but they showed up in the next shot.
http://csillagkapu.hu/kep.php?kep=http://kepek.csillagkapu.hu/hiba/3x22/03.jpg
http://csillagkapu.hu/kep.php?kep=http://kepek.csillagkapu.hu/hiba/3x22/04.jpg

2. The chevron 5 and 6 should have been lit up at that dialing stage, when Teal’c asked help from O’Neill.
http://csillagkapu.hu/kep.php?kep=http://kepek.csillagkapu.hu/hiba/3x22/01.jpg

3.Replicators were on the stargate, so it is quite unbelievable that Carter could shot them without risking entering the blocks into the event horizont.
http://csillagkapu.hu/kep.php?kep=http://kepek.csillagkapu.hu/hiba/3x22/02.jpg

Falcon Horus
August 28th, 2018, 03:07 AM
It's quite amazing in general that none of the replicators fell through the even horizon full stop.

Platschu
August 28th, 2018, 03:56 AM
I always loved this purple replicators the most as it showed that they were eating the Asgard metal materials. Somehow the rusty or the humanoid versions never impressed me as much as these ones. I always got goosebumps when I can hear their chearping sound effect and then O'Neill's face expresion then the music together. What a scene! I am not surprised this one was voted the best of season 3.

When you watch the werkfilm it mentions that the O shape corridors were used in Urgo as well, because that was test footage / test episode for the Nemesis. So when they are running on the wall actually they filmed it with white set and the whole background is also digitally painted. If I know it well as I have seen this extra years ago.

Falcon Horus
August 28th, 2018, 07:42 AM
Digital alterations of sets is amazing.... :) ...well usually anyway.