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SG-1 returns from a mission and discovers that metamorphic aliens have taken over the complex.

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jenniferhailey
May 3rd, 2004, 10:22 AM
This is a wonderful episode for several reasons:

1.) Colin Cunningham
2.) Lots of Teal'C action
3.) Evil Janet!
4.) Sam is so cool, go Sam!
5.) "Maybourne, you are an idiot every day of the week, why couldn't you just take one day off?!"

Sam saves the day, again, and Maybourne actually gives her the credit.

Major Clanger
May 3rd, 2004, 11:05 AM
Not enough people give Mayborne credit for helping out, once he finally grasped the situation. He didn't just try to slither away, which lesser men might have.

Slainte
May 3rd, 2004, 04:25 PM
I *love* this episode. Harry and Carter, what more could one ask?
If you can swallow the weird identity stealing pod thingy, it's a great ep.
Harry has a soft spot for Carter, first revealed here.:)
Slainte gg

jenniferhailey
May 4th, 2004, 10:48 AM
Yes he kinda does have a soft spot for her doesnt he?

I love his interaction with Teal'C lol he's dead scared of him!

I love the Idiot every day line even more because Amanda came up with that herself I think she said. :)

GateGipsy
May 5th, 2004, 05:42 AM
I love the bit where Fake Major Davis goes all 'hissy'!

Slainte
May 10th, 2004, 12:38 PM
I love the bit where Fake Major Davis goes all 'hissy'!
I love that bit, too. How did Colin C. ever get that expression on his face and that campy hiss. Priceless.

Boomer359
May 24th, 2004, 12:31 PM
Maybourne didn;t seem like such a bad guy in this episode. In fact, he usually seems like a man with honorable intentions. I find it kind of odd that they portrayed him well here, but made him look like a bad guy right after in "Shaeds of Grey." I much prefer the somewhat goofy, midguided Harry to the evil, scheming Harry.

gange57
July 10th, 2004, 07:47 PM
This episode was good. My only problem is that we never found any more information about those aliens.

Selmak
July 10th, 2004, 08:05 PM
these aliens should have been looked into more... they were from a deferent galaxy, right?

(2nd post) I just noticed... purple blood.

(jul 27th) Another instance of VERY ALIEN aliens... I think they were from another galaxy and they used Stargates.

SeaBee
July 20th, 2004, 03:05 PM
I liked this ep, although I thought the alien photocopier was a bit naff looking though.

KorbenDirewolf
July 20th, 2004, 11:06 PM
Not sure about that.. If they were SG-6 must have been on a mission to another galaxy.

Genty
July 23rd, 2004, 10:02 AM
Okay semi nitpick, when Carter shot O'Neill (yeah i know it was actually O'Neill...) how could she actually know 'it' was an alien? All he did was stand up and she shot him?

'part from that, very good episode, liked it a very lot!

VirtualCLD
July 23rd, 2004, 10:07 AM
SPOILER (do I need this here, oh well)





Didn't his image flicker to do interference from the plane's engines?

Genty
July 23rd, 2004, 10:11 AM
SPOILER (do I need this here, oh well)





Didn't his image flicker to do interference from the plane's engines?

Now you come to mention it i think it did... sorry... thanks :D

Still a bit awry though because of the whole halucinating chemical thing. She just seemed a lil' to bit quick to draw the gun and pull the trigger...

Major Fischer
August 7th, 2004, 12:05 PM
Did we EVER hear anything from these guys again?

Crazedwraith
August 7th, 2004, 01:49 PM
Did we EVER hear anything from these guys again?
Nope, getting their asses whupped by what a couple of inhabitants of earth must have scared them off.

Major Fischer
August 7th, 2004, 05:34 PM
Ashame, they could have been neat to run into again.

Bagpuss
August 13th, 2004, 10:45 AM
This is my favourite SG-1 episode of Seasons 1-7 . :D
Sam and Maybourne made a very good partnership,and I liked the mimic devices ! Nice team moments,especially between Sam and Teal'c.
Good to see Major Davis teaming up with Jack.
Alien Hammond was superb,as was Janet's "Evil twin".
To sum up,tons of fun to watch,and the Cast seemed to relish the plot too. :D

I'd like to see more of the "Foothold Aliens",but so far nothing .Not the only race to be sidelined by the bigger arcs.
No harm in hoping,though ! ;)

Wyrminarrd
August 15th, 2004, 12:38 PM
It really is a shame that SG-1 hasn´t use those aliens again as they where a lot more cool then many others they´ve run into. I got a big predator wipe from them. My guess would be that they felt the costumes where to expensive :rolleyes:

Wouldn´t it be cool if they ran into a system lord that actually turned out to be one of these aliens and that they where trying to take over the system lords?

This is without doubt my favorite show of this season and is a serious contender for the over all best show.

SeaBee
September 17th, 2004, 12:10 PM
At least the tech. gets revisited in season 6.

Lord Zedd
September 21st, 2004, 01:17 PM
At least the tech. gets revisited in season 6.
yeah but that epi was a little boring in season 6 this epi was cool Maybourne was in it He had to cut himself

drew494949
October 21st, 2004, 11:23 PM
Hey Everyone, I just bought a costume from stargate props.com, one of the Alien outfits from Season 3, episode "Foothold." It even is coming with a MIMIC DEVICE!!!, sweet! Anywayz, one thing it does not come with is the headpiece for the costume. I was wondering if anyone had any ideas about how to make one from scratch. I was thinking a tough styrophome from Home Depot carved into the correct shape, then overlaid with some sort of rubbered glue painted to the correct colors and rippled in the fashion of the original on the DvD. Not sure what I am going to do about the eyes and ventilation, but it might come to me. Any ideas, please let me know... [email protected]

greytop
November 8th, 2004, 03:11 PM
Not enough people give Mayborne credit for helping out, once he finally grasped the situation. He didn't just try to slither away, which lesser men might have.
I agree with MC on this.

I don't remember if they ever figured out why (the aliens, I mean) they couldn't mimic Teal'c or Sam. I figure it was the Junior in Teal's and the naquada in Sam.

Dana_Jeanne
November 8th, 2004, 06:54 PM
I don't remember if they ever figured out why (the aliens, I mean) they couldn't mimic Teal'c or Sam. I figure it was the Junior in Teal's and the naquada in Sam.

I just finished watching this (it was the 6pm showing for today) and "Janet" does say to "Hammond" that they couldn't take over Teal'c because of Junior (I forget what she called it) and Carter because of her past blending or something.

This is one of my favorite episodes, but it had to grow on me. When it first aired I was 'eh' about it, and didn't watch it again until it came out on DVD. I like the actual story, and I thought Maybourne was great! Carter was done very well, too, good soldier.

Everyone had something to do in this episode and I like when that happens. The switching back and forth between Carter and Daniel was great; MS did a good job playing Carter.

Yep, for me, in the immortal word of Ed Sulliven, this a really good shew!

Dana Jeanne

GatetheWay
December 4th, 2004, 02:19 PM
Still a bit awry though because of the whole halucinating chemical thing. She just seemed a lil' to bit quick to draw the gun and pull the trigger...


Before she pulled the gun she looked at Maybourne and saw the look of shock on his face and knew it was for real because he could not have been 'exposed' to the halucinate chemical.

zats
January 2nd, 2005, 11:18 AM
Evil Janet, as I think someone described her, was great. TR plays evil really well--TPTB should bring TR back as a villain! Can't you see it?--"Silence, insolent scum! Or I bring the BIG needles!"

Okay, now I'm freaking myself out. Changing trains of thought...

Dead Jawa
January 7th, 2005, 09:03 PM
Maybourne didn;t seem like such a bad guy in this episode. In fact, he usually seems like a man with honorable intentions. I find it kind of odd that they portrayed him well here, but made him look like a bad guy right after in "Shaeds of Grey." I much prefer the somewhat goofy, midguided Harry to the evil, scheming Harry.

Personally I've never really thought of Maybourne as a "bad guy". Granted he goes a little to far a few times ("Bane" comes to mind). But he believes that the SGC arn't doing all that needs to be done to protect Earth so he has to take matters into his own hands.
In fact if this was the real U.S. Millitary running the SGC what kind of man do you think would running it. One like Hammond who cares more about the people of other worlds than weapons and alien tech or Maybourne who would stop at nothing to atvanse good old U.S.A?

Edit: Upon reading my post I see comparing Maybourne to the real military doesn't really help my argument that he isn't a bad guy :( Oh well I still think he's cool :D

Lord Zedd
January 8th, 2005, 12:45 AM
Evil Janet, as I think someone described her, was great. TR plays evil really well--TPTB should bring TR back as a villain! Can't you see it?--"Silence, insolent scum! Or I bring the BIG needles!"

Okay, now I'm freaking myself out. Changing trains of thought...
That is funny :D hehehe I can allready see Janet Fraiser as a systemlord :D Aaahhh The possibilities of imagination are endless
:rolleyes:

Im_just_guessing
March 7th, 2005, 05:28 PM
Watching this right now, and had to comment that its awesome when Teal'c holds his Zat like he's going to ambush the soldiers, and then just knocks them out with his fists!

Bald Teal'c was so cool, now he's all...emo...

SmartFox
March 17th, 2005, 07:01 PM
Loved Maybourne like i always do. His facial expressions are jsut priceless. Do we ever use that technology again. Or are they going to say that it blew up when the main dude self-destructed him self.

astrogeologist
March 22nd, 2005, 02:06 PM
The following quotes and pics are from the episode Foothold...
thanks to all of you who cited this as one of the best Carter episodes
-- you are most certainly correct! :cool:



I loved this infimary scene where SG-1 is getting tranqued by the aliens masquerading as SGC personnel. AT did an amazing job with her surprised, perplexed and then drowsy facial expressions after 'Janet' jabs her a bit too forcefully... :p
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/accesspics/footholdinfirmarypanel3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/accesspics/footholdescape.jpg
Foothold did have a few good scenes of Teal'c and Sam working together. I loved their interaction in the elevator just after Sam wakes up and then as she gets ready to go for help.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/accesspics/everydayoftheweek.jpg

Maybourne, you are an idiot every day of the week!
Why couldn't you have just taken one day off?! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/accesspics/footholdjackdaniel.jpg
The scenes with 'Jack', 'Daniel' and Maybourne were also wonderful.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/accesspics/killsjack.jpg
This is kick-ass Sam Carter -- she takes down the alien masquerading as Jack without hesitation.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/accesspics/inflightaliens.jpg
Dealing with the other aliens aboard and Maybourne proves that he's not one.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/accesspics/lastfewshots.jpg
A few parting shots in the last few scenes.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/accesspics/samhandlesguns.jpg
Carter knows how to handle a gun!

Foothold was most definitely a stand-out episode for both the competency of the character of Sam Carter - and the acting talents of Amanda Tapping. Thanks to all of you who commented on this episode in this thread... because of all of the comments, I went back and watched it. Thanks! :cool:
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Photos are screen captures from the episode 'Foothold'
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SilverRider
March 22nd, 2005, 08:13 PM
and not to mention she shoots evil davis :D

Sha're
March 25th, 2005, 12:51 PM
This is a great Sam-centred episode. I began to like Maybourne after seeing this as well.... But Sam is certainly the best character in this, even when Michael Shanks was acting like her - her personality still came across - lol. The scene with Jack punching Janet in the face was weirdly funny - and when he has to take the device off her. Glad Davis had a few good scenes in this too.

LouisaB
March 28th, 2005, 03:07 AM
I love the Idiot every day line even more because Amanda came up with that herself I think she said. :)

I didn't know she came up with that herself. It is my favourite Sam line from any episode of any series of the show.

I was also pleased that Maybourne eventually came through - better late than never!

greenighs
April 12th, 2005, 04:35 PM
"tetra-chlora-ethyl-mermalyne" ?! I almost fell off the couch! :D

ApophisOfTheStargateRealm
April 13th, 2005, 06:37 PM
i saw the episode tonight and well...it was the first time i sort of liked Mayborne as a chrector... lol...im sure glad he is out of the picture nowadays...

fair_nymph
April 15th, 2005, 07:50 AM
This is my favourite episode from Season 3, and one of my favourite episodes of all time. It's also my favourite Sam episode so far, and there a few very good Sam eps in this season.

I love it when Sam is in charge -- she has great leadership abilities and it's nice to see her out of Jack's shadow. As someone said, this episode really demonstrated both the competency of Sam's character and the brilliance of Amanda's acting. I must also give a nod to MS for a great performance as Sam.

I'm delighted to hear that AT was responsible for the 'you're an idiot..' line. Sam's usually such a nice little goody-two shoes, and so I love it when she gets snarky.

I also love bad-ass Sam, such as when she shot alien Jack without hesitation. She *IS* pretty slick with a gun, and I enjoy that side of her. We don't see it nearly enough IMO. Don't get me wrong I LOVE brainy Sam, but I like ass-kicking Sam alot too. It creates some lovely complexity within her character.

I too do think Maybourne deserved a little credit, yeah he's still a jerk, but he isn't a coward, and he DID help once he got his head out of his butt and started believing Carter. I too much prefer him in his helpful good-guy role as opposed to scheming evil NID role.

Great job on TR's part as evil Janet, I have to agree that she'd make an excellent villian, but I prefer her good with occasional bouts of evil. :D

Chaka's_Mum
April 19th, 2005, 04:52 AM
I have always enjoyed Maybourne as a character. The smug git that everyone loves to hate. This time, however, he gets jerked out of his smug-git-ness and proves that he actually has a spine (you'd be amazed how many smug-git-types don't!). His cool thinking when he has to prove to Sam that he's not a disguised Alien is brilliant. No dithering about how he 'couldn't possibly be an Alien because...' stuff, just a simple slice across the hand to show his red (rather than cerise) blood. Neat.

It's also great the way that despite the attempts at safeguards, the risks inherent in Stargate exploration still come to bite the SGC in the butt.

It was also a fab spot of acting from AT. That moment when Sam begins to wonder if she really has been acting on the premise of an hallucination is beautifully done - plus that fab line about Maybourne being an 'Idiot every day of the week'. It shows how desperate she is to shout that at a senior officer!

RubyRed
April 23rd, 2005, 09:41 PM
Sam was on fire in this episode. I loved how she insulted maybourne i wish she'd done more. i think her peformance in this episode was excelent it showed her as an individual character. that doesn't need an order to do what must be done.

QuiGonJohn
May 9th, 2005, 06:57 AM
Liked this one too. I would have liked to see them use the devices more to infiltrate the aliens. Like Carter did with Daniel's device. Still very enjoyable. I was worried for a little that somehow Maybourne was an alien, when he was freaking out about Carter trying to use the second device, the one that links the thoughts.

Wyrminarrd
August 3rd, 2005, 02:01 PM
Just watched this episode again a few days ago and it is definetly on my top five episodes list.

It´s a crime that they haven´t used these aliens again on the show, there must be a way to write another good episode involving them. Perhaps they were scouting out Earth as a possible refuge from the Orii?

Perriman33
August 10th, 2005, 10:37 AM
These aliens were great,this is one of the episodes where I liked working out what had happened. Sam and Teal'c worked good together. I must admit I too,thought that maybourne might be an alien.This could easily have been made into a two-parter it was so good and it would have been cool to find out more about the aliens and their technology. Jack seemed to like punching frasier a bit too much ;) *That felt a bit weird* is all he could come up with, maybe it was payback for all those injections. :D

Chaka's_Mum
August 10th, 2005, 09:56 PM
Particularly that jab in the ...*ahem*... rear.

:D

SilverRider
August 11th, 2005, 12:11 AM
Particularly that jab in the ...*ahem*... rear.

:D

ROFLMAO! that's funny :D :D

Darkstar
August 23rd, 2005, 08:53 AM
jack: listen really jam it in this time!

the foothold aliens are the best take a look at my avatar i love em but you know whats weird....they have all their memories i hope the producers don't do what they did with STV have a crew who were not who they seemed living the same lives...oh wait that was done with double jeprody...hmmm.still bring em back!!!!!

Perriman33
August 23rd, 2005, 11:49 PM
Yeah, I thought they were a bit too cool to waste. Lets face it there aren't many villains who we've fought who are still alive (apophis doesn't count! :D ) so they deserve at least one more episode even if it's not directly against earth. :)

Stricken
September 8th, 2005, 02:49 AM
Good episode, shame they have never returned TPTB what are u doing you have two storylines to be round up !!!!

Ascendant
September 8th, 2005, 01:18 PM
Heh heh...now I'm hooked on this idea of Evil Janet the System Lord. She'd probably wear black leather and chains. What was that Jack quote from season 5? "Four-foot-nine killing machine."

Speaking of leather, I love episodes where we get to see SG-1 out in casual clothes in the outside world. The scene with "Daniel", "Jack" and Maybourne in the outdoor cafe was one of my favorites ever. The one in the plane was awesome, too - though Sam should know better than to start getting her gun off in a pressurized cabin.

Love this episode, aside from the icky intestine things dangling around the captured SGC personnel. Here's another vote to Bring Back the Foothold Aliens. It would be fun to see them go up against the Goa'uld.

walter_MacChevron
September 15th, 2005, 08:04 PM
Pretty darn good episode..........when will we see these guys again?! Knowing TPTB.........never..........

Metarock Sam
September 26th, 2005, 01:34 PM
This is a pretty good episode however in my opinion TPTB wont bring em back unless for a very good reason. They should focus more on the four races.

TrustNo1
October 2nd, 2005, 04:17 PM
Has anyone thought that maybe the aliens are still on Earth. Remember that it was Maybourne who said the aliens in the hallway had exploded, no one from the SGC confirmed this, plus the SGC was crawling with NID guys so it would have been easy to get the aliens out of the base without anyone knowing.

Just a thought...

SilverRider
October 2nd, 2005, 08:20 PM
Has anyone thought that maybe the aliens are still on Earth. Remember that it was Maybourne who said the aliens in the hallway had exploded, no one from the SGC confirmed this, plus the SGC was crawling with NID guys so it would have been easy to get the aliens out of the base without anyone knowing.

Just a thought...


This calls for a ficcy :P :P Woot

sithsk8r
October 10th, 2005, 08:10 AM
um this is my first real post. kinda shy hehe. but do u think the foothold aliens are from the pegasus galaxy or maybe the asgard galaxy or maybe the ori galaxy? they said the gould were the dominant parasitcal life forms in this galaxy so it kinda implies they werent from our galaxy.

they looked pretty advanced but i dun think their tech was = to goaluld tech.
thx :)
:o

Uber
October 11th, 2005, 08:59 PM
Has anyone thought that maybe the aliens are still on Earth. Remember that it was Maybourne who said the aliens in the hallway had exploded, no one from the SGC confirmed this, plus the SGC was crawling with NID guys so it would have been easy to get the aliens out of the base without anyone knowing.

Just a thought...You know...I asked Joe Mallozzi this question a while back. I think I said something like is there a chance the Foothold alien who impersonated Daniel was alive...because all we had was Maybourne's word on it.

His response? "You mean you don't trust Maybourne??"

:D

Needless to say I LOVED this episode. I even incorporated it into my Amanda Tapping video. I had a cut scene from Heroes 2 (bad quality clip but what can you do) with Jack getting a video from Hammond to watch...anyway when he gets the video (which is actually my video), he's watching his favorite show Stargate SG-1 and his favorite episode...Foothold...it was the "Maybourne, you are an idiot..." scene. (ON EDIT: oh if you'd like to see the video, just click on my signature banner...)

:cool:

Chaka's_Mum
October 12th, 2005, 10:21 PM
You know...I asked Joe Mallozzi this question a while back. I think I said something like is there a chance the Foothold alien who impersonated Daniel was alive...because all we had was Maybourne's word on it.

His response? "You mean you don't trust Maybourne??"

I Like that!

:D

skritsys
October 27th, 2005, 09:03 AM
Definitely I would be interested in seeing the aliens in this ep get another story or two. Whatever happened to them that they never got brought back?

Cinephilic TV Addict
January 6th, 2006, 09:01 AM
Heh heh...now I'm hooked on this idea of Evil Janet the System Lord.

That'd be a great way to bring Dr. Fraiser back, as a new minor enemy compared to the Ori.

However, I'm going to disagree with everyone so far on this post - Foothold is absolutely awful.

The episode has no point, message, meaning, etc. In other words, it's a stand-alone episode that really just goes for kicks. This is the hardest type of episode to do, because the great majority of scenes must be good (especially at the beginning) for the episode to be good entertainment, and Foothold did not pull it off at all.

This type of episode is especially hard to pull off because, with no point to the episode, corny moments are more easily noticed and less easily swallowed (the entire plane sequence was painful to watch - the editing was especially bad - sees gun, sees alien, grabs gun = stupid, convenient, kill me now).

Also, this kind of episode makes what I call "conveniences" stand out - Teal'c wakes up, sees aliens, overhears plans, is now ready for escape. that's crap. Teal'c volunteers to draw the gaurds away from Sam, but Sam's escape tunnel seemed completely unguarded (it doesn't matter if it was or not - we were not shown that, and can not extrapolate anything). seems like they just wanted Teal'c to be captured/tortured. that's crap on a crap cracker.

There were too many plot points for a single episode - it had a chance to be great character developement for Sam and/or Maybourne, but instead avoided all that, put in too many short, awful plot advancement blurbs, and finally threw in a very out-of-character moment for Maybourne at the very end (which is completely shattered in shades of gray), after they conveniently summarized everything we just saw. Also, Major Davis was given absolutely no purpose in the episode, and that's a shame because he's a great fan favorite minor character that was completely abused by this episode.

In short, it wasn't well done, and therefore I wasn't entertained. I'd give it a star-and-a-half out of four. Very poor.

captain jake
May 21st, 2006, 12:22 AM
When are they coming back? I am begining to think never.

SilverRider
May 21st, 2006, 09:28 PM
I don't think they will ever explore those alien storyline again Jake.

captain jake
May 22nd, 2006, 01:42 PM
I don't think they will ever explore those alien storyline again Jake.

Yes unfortunately you are probably correct, but they sure would be fun to see again.

SilverRider
May 22nd, 2006, 11:37 PM
Indeed it would be fun to see, but since it been years...soo......

captain jake
May 25th, 2006, 05:00 AM
Never know.

Maybe they piloted the ship in grace??

Sheppard
July 19th, 2006, 11:29 PM
yeah we never worked out who was shooting the promethius in grace might of been some one else though

Billz
October 12th, 2006, 09:05 AM
I was always hoping to see these aliens again. They were so cool. Too bad that wont happen. Actually, thinking about it, they may just appear in Atlantis one day. Think about it, they said when they where using the holographic camoflauge devices that the Goa'uld were the dominant species in the Milky Way galaxy, implying that these unknown aliens originated from a different galaxy and as far as we know, the only other galaxies with stargate networks are the Pegasus and Ida galaxies. Or they could've been the furlings gone bad. Either way, im just speculating.

saberhagen83
October 16th, 2006, 04:56 AM
You may be right Billz. It seems they are from a different galaxy, considering what they said about the Goa'uld. Who knows, maybe there are more galaxies with gate networks? This a one of my favorite episodes over the years. I truly hope we could see these aliens someday again. Perhaps in the next spin-off or perhaps they one day make it to the Pegasus galaxy. But I guess we won't see them again. :(

Arga
October 16th, 2006, 02:06 PM
Maybe they piloted the ship in grace??

Actually, that's not stupid! :) The ship in Grace didn't respond because they can't talk english!
Maybe they had a sort of translator and understood Carter, but she didn't understand them, (the communication device didn't even recognize their voice/noise as speach)...



they could've been the furlings gone bad
:lol: why not? haha

meredithchandler73
October 19th, 2006, 08:31 AM
Awesome Carter episode. Amanda Tapping RULES. It was mentioned earlier in this thread that Amanda came up with the best line - "You're an idiot every day of the week..." That is *soooo* cool.

Chaka's_Mum
October 25th, 2006, 04:18 AM
I just hope Maybourne wasn't mean-spirited enough to make an issue of that once the crisis was over.

"Excuse me Major Carter, now that the deadly threat to humankind has been neutralised - largely thanks to you, there is just the small matter of your describing a Senior Officer as a perpetual moron. Care to discuss that?"

Mind you, that would be an interesting case to present to a Disciplinary Panel!

"She called me an idiot because I wouldn't believe Earth was under attack by a hostile Alien Race."

Hmm...

VolrathEvincar
November 3rd, 2006, 10:37 AM
What ever happened to them? I mean, don't we have where they went in the base computer? We could find them if we wanted.

MoonlightKiller
March 3rd, 2007, 11:15 AM
Yep. Expensive costumes lead to few appearances.

apollo22
May 16th, 2007, 01:26 PM
i was watching the episode smoke and mirriors and they said they tried to make their own copies and they could only get the hologram to operate for only six minutes,i was thinking that maybe that is why the aliens in this episode kept the humans around hanging from the cieling. maybe the person has to be alive to make it work indefinently

Harlan's Speechwriter
June 5th, 2007, 11:35 AM
Just seen this episode for the first time, and really enjoyed it. I love the way the audience gets caught up in Sam's confusion as they try to persuade her she's hallucinating. That line "you're an idiot everyday of the week..." is priceless; I bet we've all wanted to shout that at our superiors at one time or another. Some fab acting again from AT.

Did anyone else feel that something wasn't right as soon as SG1 met 'alien' Hammond, when they returned through the stargate at the very beginning? I immediately felt that something was amiss.

I can't make up my mind about the treatment of the aliens. It's a shame they weren't developed further, as it looks like they could have provided an interesting enemy but, on the other hand, it's good to keep some questions unanswered, it builds suspense and gets people thinking about the possibilities.

First
June 6th, 2007, 09:46 PM
Yes, it's a shame we never saw them again.

I laughed when the real Jack was posing as the alien Jack and (speaking in a monotone voice) got Teal'c out of his cell, by casually zatting the guards.

It seems logical that they aren't from our galaxy, or are only limited to an isolated pocket of our galaxy, as they seem to have no knowledge of the gou'ald. Their mimic devices didn't work on Teal'c or Sam.

Harlan's Speechwriter
June 7th, 2007, 09:25 PM
It seems logical that they aren't from our galaxy, or are only limited to an isolated pocket of our galaxy, as they seem to have no knowledge of the gou'ald. Their mimic devices didn't work on Teal'c or Sam.

It's quite scary to think there's an aggressive race which seems to know about us (admittedly except for the gou'ald aspect) when we know nothing about them.

MechaThor
June 8th, 2007, 04:24 AM
It's quite scary to think there's an aggressive race which seems to know about us (admittedly except for the gou'ald aspect) when we know nothing about them.

True and rumour has it the Super cool looking Lobster men. Originally came from another galaxy. Who knows may big their army may be!

Same they never came back to this story as they would have made gd bad guys. Myabe in Atlantis one day!

Harlan's Speechwriter
June 8th, 2007, 12:43 PM
True and rumour has it the Super cool looking Lobster men. Originally came from another galaxy. Who knows may big their army may be!

Same they never came back to this story as they would have made gd bad guys. Myabe in Atlantis one day!

Yes. It would have been good to have another nemesis, apart from the goa'uld. It would also have been interesting to see how they and the goa'uld would have reacted to each other.

Crichiel
January 22nd, 2008, 07:58 AM
Such a different episode! I like it. All the stuff with Jack and Davis hanging from the ceiling and taking out "Janet". Great stuff. Sam taking down Maybourne. Hee hee. Sam and Maybourne then working together! Gasp! What an unexpected twist! I thought it was fantastic how O'Neill lowered his hands to slam down the blast doors at the end. And the entire scene in the beginning in the infirmary had me laughing out loud.

Although, I can't think right now, was there a reason the aliens would have held Teal'c in lock-up and not killed him outright? (not that I WANTED them to!)

Infinatus
April 17th, 2008, 07:06 PM
Although, I can't think right now, was there a reason the aliens would have held Teal'c in lock-up and not killed him outright? (not that I WANTED them to!)

I was under the impression they wanted to keep him alive to study his larvae and maybe see if they could find a way to overcome the Goa'uld immunity to the mimic devices. Seeing as how from their perspective there was no way of knowing the NID would eventually storm the base, studying him was a rather safe decision.


Personally, I thought this was a fantastic episode. I actually rewatch this episode more often than any other SG-1 episode and it is definitely my favorite. The subtle foreshadowing all throughout the episode was very well done, and I like duplicate O'Neill's "He's awaiting your thoughts" line to Maybourne.

captain jake
June 30th, 2008, 05:45 PM
Very interesting episode, this is the turning point for Maybourne. In early episodes you can't help but absolutely hate him, but after this he starts getting more and more likable.


I was under the impression they wanted to keep him alive to study his larvae and maybe see if they could find a way to overcome the Goa'uld immunity to the mimic devices. Seeing as how from their perspective there was no way of knowing the NID would eventually storm the base, studying him was a rather safe decision.

Yes I agree, after all we do see Doctor Frasier messing around with Teal'c's infant Goa'uld. I suspect that these aliens weren't from our galaxy and therefore were interested in the Jaffa and the Goa'uld. I suspect the reason we don't see them around anymore is because they couldn't figure out how to imitate the Jaffa and Goa'uld. Therefore they retreat to their home galaxy never to be seen again.

HelloVelo
July 5th, 2008, 10:56 AM
It's fun to see how long Maybourne is on screen before someone insults him.

My Rating: 8/10

Full Review: http://stargatesummer.blogspot.com/2008/07/foothold.html

captain jake
July 6th, 2008, 03:37 AM
It's fun to see how long Maybourne is on screen before someone insults him.

My Rating: 8/10

Full Review: http://stargatesummer.blogspot.com/2008/07/foothold.html

What was it 15 seconds? I am one of those people who actually like Maybourne.

plague
July 8th, 2008, 02:47 PM
So SG gets compromised and it gets buried under the rug? Didn't Senator Kinsey jump up and down in Season 1 when they compromised it slightly and in this episode, they were replaced by aliens and nobody would have known. I expected an after-effect of this episode.

L E E
July 13th, 2008, 07:21 PM
An enjoyable episode. Loved that line from Sam to Maybourne about giving his stupidity a day off. :lol:

How many times have the SG1 been compromised up to this point? They not only have to check if any team is goa'ulded, they have to check if they're the real SG team. Or if the SG team has not been tampered with like in another ep. And make sure that there are no invisible aliens that went along with then. And that they do not take in any devices that might be carrying really tiny aliens.

Infinatus
July 15th, 2008, 11:26 AM
So SG gets compromised and it gets buried under the rug? Didn't Senator Kinsey jump up and down in Season 1 when they compromised it slightly and in this episode, they were replaced by aliens and nobody would have known. I expected an after-effect of this episode.

The Kinsey issue with regards to this episode was addressed in season 6's Smoke and Mirrors. Though I agree perhaps one line of dialogue about this should have been inserted into this episode. But still, because of Smoke and Mirrors this is really almost a non-issue. The only issues I had (and yes in hind sight my review on the last page was much more positive, so sorry for looking like a hypocrite) was that Jack and Major Davis took so long to free themselves from their restraints, considering that they escaped when Carter got back from her plane ride (which probably took hours). Also, the NID attack on the base was very poorly planned considering the ease of the alien escape. Before the attack surely it would have been a good idea for Carter to cut power to the gate to prevent the escape.

However, I still think that over all this was a very entertaining episode. Despite it's flaws this episode had some of the better qualities of science fiction entertainment ingrained in it, and the apparent influence from Invasion of the Body Snatchers was quite nice.

VSS
July 15th, 2008, 03:47 PM
An enjoyable episode. Loved that line from Sam to Maybourne about giving his stupidity a day off. :lol:

How many times have the SG1 been compromised up to this point? They not only have to check if any team is goa'ulded, they have to check if they're the real SG team. Or if the SG team has not been tampered with like in another ep. And make sure that there are no invisible aliens that went along with then. And that they do not take in any devices that might be carrying really tiny aliens.

Really, they should make them all sit it out for 24 hours at the Alpha Site or somewhere similar, as they decided to do with the Midway facility in Atlantis.
And Dr. Lee should never have been allowed to bring home any plants.

I actually liked it when Sam shot Jack (although she knew he was an alien). I bet there's been more than one time she wished she could have done that, and I bet Daniel was jealous that she got to. You know, a little catharsis every now and then is a good thing. ;)

L E E
July 16th, 2008, 10:11 PM
Really, they should make them all sit it out for 24 hours at the Alpha Site or somewhere similar, as they decided to do with the Midway facility in Atlantis.
And Dr. Lee should never have been allowed to bring home any plants.
;)

i haven't seen any sga eps.

is there a do's and dont's list in stargate travel? i think there should be one. and i'd bet that it will be a loooong list.

pritnep
August 25th, 2008, 01:04 AM
I wouldn't go to say this is one of my favourites of season 3 but it's certainly an interesting "what-if" style episode.

Probably one of the episodes where Maybourne actual was a help rather then a hindrance.

Pretty cool technology and at least they implemented a fail safe (the scan) so that this won't be happening again.

Although initially Teal'c should of grabbed more Zats instead of giving a pistol to Sam since at that point we didn't know if everyone was an alien or only some or if they were under some kind of control.

gateship15
August 25th, 2008, 01:29 AM
I wouldn't go to say this is one of my favourites of season 3 but it's certainly an interesting "what-if" style episode.

Probably one of the episodes where Maybourne actual was a help rather then a hindrance.

Pretty cool technology and at least they implemented a fail safe (the scan) so that this won't be happening again.

Although initially Teal'c should of grabbed more Zats instead of giving a pistol to Sam since at that point we didn't know if everyone was an alien or only some or if they were under some kind of control.

i was kind of surprised maybourne actally helped and that we didn't know if they were under control but maybe when sam found out the ones on the airplane were alians they thought that we would know they all are.

BeccaBeez
August 26th, 2008, 11:35 PM
I liked this episode, especially the Sam-Maybourne interaction. The complete infiltration of SGC... a slight stretch in my opinion, but hey - this is Sci Fi.

Black_Sheep
September 4th, 2008, 03:37 PM
Good episode. I liked how Teal'c eliminated the guards until they took him out with the gas. Also the Sam-Maybourne interaction was pretty good, and also funny.

Starsaber
September 16th, 2008, 10:23 AM
Although initially Teal'c should of grabbed more Zats instead of giving a pistol to Sam since at that point we didn't know if everyone was an alien or only some or if they were under some kind of control.

Well, she would have had to leave the Zat with him before leaving the SGC, so it probably made more sense to them to give her a gun she could use the whole episode.

Infinatus
September 20th, 2008, 09:08 PM
I liked this episode, especially the Sam-Maybourne interaction. The complete infiltration of SGC... a slight stretch in my opinion, but hey - this is Sci Fi.

How's it a stretch? Once the aliens replaced Hammond they had free reign in the SGC.

L E E
October 4th, 2008, 05:46 AM
Although initially Teal'c should of grabbed more Zats instead of giving a pistol to Sam since at that point we didn't know if everyone was an alien or only some or if they were under some kind of control.

I thought so too.

hedwig
October 4th, 2008, 08:41 AM
Really, they should make them all sit it out for 24 hours at the Alpha Site or somewhere similar, as they decided to do with the Midway facility in Atlantis.
And Dr. Lee should never have been allowed to bring home any plants.

I actually liked it when Sam shot Jack (although she knew he was an alien). I bet there's been more than one time she wished she could have done that, and I bet Daniel was jealous that she got to. You know, a little catharsis every now and then is a good thing. ;)

I agree with the idea of making teams sit it out for 24 hours at the Alpha site, but it was still early in the series and their experiences, so maybe it hadn't occurred to anyone yet. Does anyone recall when the first Alpha site was set up? And the same idea with bringing home any alien plants. Anything like that should have a waiting period off-earth before being deemed ok to be brought to earth.

Totally love your comments at Sam shooting Jack (or his alien duplicate). I sooo agree with that (as much as I like Jack's character, I'm totally surprised that Sam or Daniel hasn't done something of that sort - though Daniel could get away with it more than Sam could - him being not military.:p:))

Infinatus
October 4th, 2008, 10:23 AM
Does anyone recall when the first Alpha site was set up?

I believe towards the end of season 1 as that's when it first had importance for the plot.


I agree that in the real world there would have to be a 24 hour quarantine each time a team comes back from another planet, although for the show this practice would become very tedious.

On the other hand, if the quarantine was on another planet the 4 aliens that replaced SG-6 would have a better chance of success first replacing the small outpost before working on replacing everyone in the SGC. Also, since the aliens impersonating SG-6 were pretending to be injured Fraiser and other doctors would have likely been sent to the quarantine outpost to assist whatever doctors might already be stationed there. With a dozen or more aliens impersonating SGC personnel their chances for success would be greatly increased (if shifts at the outpost were on rotation all the aliens would be brought to the SGC, the aliens impersonating SG-6 laying low and fulfilling their SGC duties until the other aliens come through the gate, at which point they start replacing people). Then once General Hammond was replaced the aliens would have free reign in the SGC and would have an easier time replacing the remaining human personnel.

Verdande
October 17th, 2008, 12:23 PM
I loved this episode! Great story, very funny, good to see Teal'c and Carter working so well together, and of course; excellent scene with Maybourne and Sam, when maybe-alien-Daniel and maybe-alien-O'Neill showed up.

I love all the main characters, but I prefer Teal'c-centered and Carter-centered episodes to focus on the character's interaction with other team members. So far I'm not so fond of the episodes where they take Teal'c away from the team to focus the story on him (the Jaffa-stuff), and ditto for Carter (the Jolinar-stuff). It's the interaction between the main characters that makes the character-stuff interesting for me.

So, yes. This was very good and clearly a new favorite.

amconway
February 9th, 2009, 08:37 PM
So, the aliens talk about the Goa'uld being a dominant parasite "in this galaxy", but the gate address is a P3X address. Thoughts?

My favorite parts? Sam in full-on butt-kicking mode, Teal'c attempting to defend the SGC single handed, and MS playing 3 parts in one episode (Daniel, evil alien, and Sam), and managing to make each part unique. Bravo Mr. Shanks!

gateship15
February 9th, 2009, 11:19 PM
lol this is deferentially my fave episode

Matt G
February 13th, 2009, 02:01 PM
So, the aliens talk about the Goa'uld being a dominant parasite "in this galaxy", but the gate address is a P3X address. Thoughts?



Pretty straightforward. Footholders went from their galaxy to P3X whatever and used it as their Milky Way base, stumbled accross an SG team and went from there.

gateship15
February 15th, 2009, 11:30 PM
hmm i never though thought of that

balo
February 19th, 2009, 07:46 AM
I just loved this episode !!

One of the best episodes with Sam !
It was really cool with the aliens and the mimic devices .

Rating 9 / 10

gateship15
February 20th, 2009, 12:50 AM
this is one of my fave episodes and one i must see again

Butlersgate
February 23rd, 2009, 02:12 PM
teal'c just owns the hell out of everybody, he just doesn't change his facial expression at all and cleans them out in one swift movement, amazing :D

shinysign
March 12th, 2009, 06:48 PM
Great episode, I love the espionage paranoia type episodes, I liked when they tried to convince Teal'c, it was like who are they fooling? But they did a better job convincing Carter.

I have nothing 'bad' to say about this episode. It rocked. :tealc44:

gateship15
March 16th, 2009, 03:21 AM
i agree that is the best part

Pic
April 11th, 2009, 02:09 PM
I loved Jack having to get a shot and telling the nurse to really jab it in there this time. Was getting a shot a common thing?

Maybourne is still related to a donkey, even if he wasn't completely useless this time.
"Maybourne, you're an idiot every day of the week?" BWHAHAA! :D

Sam is awesome. Simply awesome.

The Stig
April 25th, 2009, 02:04 PM
Mayborne sort of did a good thing. that was a nice change. jacks call on mayborne was extremely fuuny. However i told that to a teacher and got detention for a week. So it has its downside.

suse
April 25th, 2009, 02:07 PM
Mayborne sort of did a good thing. that was a nice change. jacks call on mayborne was extremely fuuny. However i told that to a teacher and got detention for a week. So it has its downside.

:confused: What did Jack say to Maybourne?

suse

jelgate
April 25th, 2009, 03:39 PM
:confused: What did Jack say to Maybourne?

suse

I thin he meant what Sam said to Maybourne. About calling him a idiot 7 days a week

Jimbob041106
May 4th, 2009, 04:16 PM
I love this episode.

JadeStarkiller
August 1st, 2009, 07:48 PM
Yeah, this was a great episode!

I always wondered what a "foothold situation" would be like in the SGC.

And it was great to see Sam take the lead in the episode once again.

Yeah, I love that quote, "Mayborne, you are an idiot every day of the week! Why couldn't you take one day off!" lol.

SaUr0n
August 19th, 2009, 01:12 AM
One of my fav episodes.Too bad SG1 didnt encounter the foothold creatures again.They could be a pretty good bad guy.

gateship15
August 19th, 2009, 09:22 PM
i kind of agree and they did get away so they could have come back

KayLyne
August 29th, 2009, 05:33 AM
Hi all! I just watched this episode again last night. I always chuckle when I see them all strung up in the air on the wires. I remember reading in the companion book of how this was one of the only times that Don Davis ever semi-grumbled (playfully) at one of the writers. Evil Janet is fun to watch here too.

mrscopterdoc
March 9th, 2010, 08:54 PM
One of the best episodes of the season. :D

maneth
August 26th, 2010, 10:05 AM
Cool ep, great technology, creepy aliens.

Loulou13
August 30th, 2010, 07:08 AM
Yeah, I love that quote, "Mayborne, you are an idiot every day of the week! Why couldn't you take one day off!" lol.

One of my favorite quote! I love the scene so much! This was a great part for Sam.

:samanime15:

Darkland
September 3rd, 2010, 11:16 PM
Really liked it. I loved that quote too. Best line ever.

LOL those Creepy aliens reminded me something I saw out of Xena Season 5. haha, but I nearly too bought into the fact that our Sam was loosing it. But I knew once she shot the fake Jack, that she wasn't loosing it. :)

themyst
May 16th, 2011, 06:28 AM
I just watched this episode last night. It's one of my favorites so far, maybe because it introduced a new alien species and had some different action and ideas in it instead of just the Goa'uld.

Lunaeclipse
May 16th, 2011, 06:12 PM
Someone pointed out to me that the foothold aliens were kind of like cochroaches.

LeftHandedGuitarist
October 11th, 2011, 07:35 AM
Good fun! Sam takes the lead nicely here, and the concept plays out through the episode very well. Lots of funny dialogue, the aliens themselves are a bit cheap looking. Their technology looks a bit silly as well. Maybourne comes off well, despite acting like an idiot as usual.

- Jack gets one of his best lines of the entire show so far with: "Just jam it in there this time!"

- The alien impersonating Hammond is a bit stupid. He finds Carter, disables her then runs away when he is called to the control room instead of dealing with her. He could have averted disaster.

- Don't like Major Davis and his scream. It's cringeworthy.

- I wonder what the alien said at the end before self-destructing.

RATING: 8 out of 10

hedwig
October 11th, 2011, 08:21 AM
Good fun! Sam takes the lead nicely here, and the concept plays out through the episode very well. Lots of funny dialogue, the aliens themselves are a bit cheap looking. Their technology looks a bit silly as well. Maybourne comes off well, despite acting like an idiot as usual.

- Jack gets one of his best lines of the entire show so far with: "Just jam it in there this time!"

- The alien impersonating Hammond is a bit stupid. He finds Carter, disables her then runs away when he is called to the control room instead of dealing with her. He could have averted disaster.

- Don't like Major Davis and his scream. It's cringeworthy.

- I wonder what the alien said at the end before self-destructing.

RATING: 8 out of 10

Sam gets the very best line of the episode:

"Maybourne, you're an idiot every day of the week! Why couldn't you have taken just one day off!" Yay Sam!

Krisz
October 15th, 2011, 06:02 PM
Sam gets the very best line of the episode:

"Maybourne, you're an idiot every day of the week! Why couldn't you have taken just one day off!" Yay Sam!

Agreed! One of SG-1's memorable lines!!! :)

Liked this episode for bringing us one of the more 'alien' aliens, and they didn't speak English in their actual form!!!! The mimic devices were a great idea, wonder how many worlds they've invaded, and what were they after? A mystery never revealed.

Jack and Major Davis with Doc Fraser when they were trying to convince themselves that she was an alien when they had to search for the mimic device on her chest, was funny. Especially when the alien turned into itself and they were holding it and dropped it like a hot potato!

Always thought it was creepy seeing all the SG personnel hanging from the ceiling held in those devices that looked like intestines!! The 'squelchy' sound effects didn't help either. I guess this emphasized the alien-ness of the whole situation and worked well.

This episode was a welcome break from SG-1 and the SGC having things going their way. It was a good wake up call in that they could still be caught out.

Seaboe Muffinchucker
October 15th, 2011, 06:12 PM
Here's where the real world intrudes for me: the chemical spilled is TCE. That's a degreaser. What the heck do they need a degreaser for within the SGC? It interferes with my suspension of disbelief every time.

I generally like this episode, but it isn't one I rewatch often.

ETA: the beginning of the redemption of Harry Maybourne (not without some backsliding, of course).

Seaboe

dtheories
October 16th, 2011, 07:09 PM
Here's where the real world intrudes for me: the chemical spilled is TCE. That's a degreaser. What the heck do they need a degreaser for within the SGC?

LOL! I never thought twice about whatever the substance was. That's too funny! I did notice they had a fast acting sedative. :-)

I remember the first time I watched this ep and the sense that something wasn't right...folks just weren't acting to form. First General Hammond, and then the way Daniel kinda looks at him and around the 'gate room when they're asked to go directly to the infirmary really should make hairs stand on end. Familiar characters - in the elevator and Siler - were really good props to make us less suspecting.

Terrific What if? storyline. The Iguana/Turtle people seeking a new homeworld were just too, too, though the technology they bring, as we see later, has extraordinary implications.

RIP SG-6.

Lieutenant Sparrow
October 18th, 2011, 12:37 AM
An interesting ep. Sam did some great work. Aliens looked pretty average. Maybourne was his usual stupid self.

SG3Marine
October 19th, 2011, 08:05 AM
Enjoyable episode, though I wish the aliens had appeared in later episodes.

Jae'a
October 20th, 2011, 07:52 AM
My LiveJournal post (http://jo-r-lee.livejournal.com/16056.html)
I kinda feel bad about calling Maybourne a rat in my write up for Bane now. :P He's more of the good guy in this ep that he claimed to be in Bane.

mathpiglet
October 20th, 2011, 12:35 PM
Great episode. I'm sorry we never got to see these aliens again.

Is it me, or did Sam find it easier to shoot alien Jack than alien Hammond? She gave Hammond time to hit her!

NowIWillDestroyAbydos
October 20th, 2011, 03:34 PM
I liked this episode, haven't seen it, so I kind of forgot how SG-1 would get out of this one.

So for once, Maybourne actually worked with us.

This is Andy Mikita's first SG-1 episode he's directed. He did a good job.

Tomorrow, the journey continues with the return of Skaara as he is put on trial by the Tollan.

Seaboe Muffinchucker
October 20th, 2011, 04:59 PM
Is it me, or did Sam find it easier to shoot alien Jack than alien Hammond? She gave Hammond time to hit her!
She had her gun in her hand when she shot Jack, versus her gun on her work bench during the confrontation with Hammond. Since she didn't have to grab the gun I think yes, Sam did find it easier to shoot Jack

Seaboe

Matt G
October 21st, 2011, 02:22 PM
5pm and another ep of SG1...

1. This won't hurt a bit...untill you're all knocked out.

2. Teal'c vs the SGC...nice...

3. "Maybourne you are an idiot every day of the week..." still makes me smile.

4. Still Maybourne did go on to be a solid ally in this ep though...we later see what he's been up to in Shades of Grey

Nice stuff.

jelgate
October 23rd, 2011, 03:47 PM
Another one of SG1s forgetten episodes. This is so disappointing because I just love Foothold. Its a big action episode especially for Sam. An element we quite frankly don't see her in that often. So I like seeing her outsmart these mimic aliens not to mention the part where Tealc beats up Siler. Its interesting to note how easily the Foothold aliens were able to take over the SGC. I would have been interested to see how that happened. Sure we got a minor explanation at the end but it is severely lacking in details. I also laughed a few times like when Jack told the nurse to really jam the needle in or Sam calling Mayborne.

Brother Freyr
October 24th, 2011, 09:38 PM
I really like this episode. The aliens, their devices, the creepy hanging harnesses... it's all more original then we usually see in SG-1.

At the end, Carter says that they can blast the frequency-disrupting sound (which, by the way, is total B.S.) whenever teams arrive through the gate, to prevent a future re-occurrence. Ha. Like that ever happened. Imagine having to hear that sound every time someone stepped through the gate, every episode, until the series ended.

gatechick
October 25th, 2011, 05:06 PM
"Maybourne, you are an idiot every day of the week; why couldn't you have just taken one day off?!" One of my all time favorite lines in SG-1. I loved that this really showcases Sam, who gets to save the day. And Maybourne actually gets to be a sorta good guy for once. I think this is the ep where I started to like him. I love the part where Jack is strung up and as he is looking for a way to get down, he touches Hammonds head kind of patting it, then says sorry sir.

Seaboe Muffinchucker
October 25th, 2011, 05:41 PM
Someone pointed out to me that the foothold aliens were kind of like cochroaches.
I know, it's been months since you posted this, and the odds of you coming back to see this comment are miniscule. Nonetheless, I don't think these aliens look anything like cockroaches.

I just had to say that.

Seaboe

Lunaeclipse
October 26th, 2011, 02:51 PM
I know, it's been months since you posted this, and the odds of you coming back to see this comment are miniscule. Nonetheless, I don't think these aliens look anything like cockroaches.

I just had to say that.

Seaboe

Not so much looked like, but acted in a similar way...don't take that too literally tho. It was more about how they nested...

Starscape91
October 27th, 2011, 09:35 PM
I love this episode the aliens, the tech, Carter kicking some serious butt. Pretty much everything about it I even like Maybourne.

SaraBahama
October 30th, 2011, 09:52 PM
"How is a needle in my butt going to get water out of my ears?...Listen, really jam it in this time, okay?" ~Jack

Classic Jack humor...coupled with his distaste for all things medical.

"Maybourne, you are an idiot every day of the week; why couldn't you have just taken one day off?!" ~Sam

Sam did get to play a strong role in this one. So proud of her.

Dave2
November 10th, 2011, 01:46 PM
What happened to SG-6 after the aliens impersonated them???
Hammond didn't say they were killed........

Dave2
November 11th, 2011, 09:01 AM
When Samantha Carter snuck into the ladder room to climb out of the mountain, how many floors did she climb? It must have been around 20 floors. I can't imagine anyone doing that under those circumstances, let alone Samantha Carter.
And why did she involve Maybourne if she knew he was really a pain in the neck if not yet an inside enemy who would reveal himself a few episodes later in Shades of Gray,
Did all the aliens disappear when the ones who couldn't gate blew themselves up? What about technical remnants such as in the "storage room" where the people were hanging??

Seaboe Muffinchucker
November 11th, 2011, 09:52 AM
When Samantha Carter snuck into the ladder room to climb out of the mountain, how many floors did she climb? It must have been around 20 floors. I can't imagine anyone doing that under those circumstances, let alone Samantha Carter. Why especially Samantha Carter? She has to be in very good shape if she's an active duty officer. Here in Seattle, Firefighters do a charitable climb up the stairs of an 80+ story building, in full gear. The winner regularly completes the climb in less than 1/2 hour.


Why did she involve Maybourne if she knew he was really a pain in the neck if not yet an inside enemy who would reveal himself a few episodes later in Shades of Gray Because he was a superior officer with knowledge of the program (iow, she could talk to him) who might be able to help.

Did all the aliens disappear when the ones who couldn't gate blew themselves up? Maybourne mentions that they died.

What about technical remnants such as in the "storage room" where the people were hanging??
The script did not deal with that issue, so who knows.

Dave2
November 12th, 2011, 03:23 PM
She must have climbed close to 20 floors.........talk about being in shape. And is it realistic that she could just come out at the top and run off to town? Did the Mountain not have any protective fences, guards, etc. at night?!


Why especially Samantha Carter? She has to be in very good shape if she's an active duty officer. Here in Seattle, Firefighters do a charitable climb up the stairs of an 80+ story building, in full gear. The winner regularly completes the climb in less than 1/2 hour.

Because he was a superior officer with knowledge of the program (iow, she could talk to him) who might be able to help.
Maybourne mentions that they died.

The script did not deal with that issue, so who knows.

fems
November 12th, 2011, 03:51 PM
It's one of the emergency access/exterior hatches, similar to the one used in Proving Ground.

Seaboe Muffinchucker
November 12th, 2011, 07:50 PM
She must have climbed close to 20 floors.........talk about being in shape. And is it realistic that she could just come out at the top and run off to town? Did the Mountain not have any protective fences, guards, etc. at night?!

I don't find it particularly unrealistic. You do, in part (or so it seems) because it was Carter (as opposed to one of the men?)--I don't get that. However, your opinion is your opinion and you're certainly entitled to it.

Seaboe

Dave2
November 13th, 2011, 07:13 AM
I cannot picture anyone climbing a ladder for 20 floors........including Samantha!


I don't find it particularly unrealistic. You do, in part (or so it seems) because it was Carter (as opposed to one of the men?)--I don't get that. However, your opinion is your opinion and you're certainly entitled to it.

Seaboe

fems
November 13th, 2011, 07:27 AM
I cannot picture anyone climbing a ladder for 20 floors........including Samantha!

Sam and Teal'c checked the security cameras in the surveillance room on level 16 and in the next scene she's going to climb out; it's possible she goes up from level sixteen, but considering that's where the security station is it's not very likely (to have an exit hatch open to that level). She could have also gone up to level eleven (where you have to change elevators) and climbed out from there.

hedwig
November 13th, 2011, 07:58 AM
She must have climbed close to 20 floors.........talk about being in shape. And is it realistic that she could just come out at the top and run off to town? Did the Mountain not have any protective fences, guards, etc. at night?!

Much as I liked this episode, I have a couple of nitpicks myself. Just how did Sam get from the SGC to the airport? How did she pay for a plane ticket, given that she left presumably without any money. How did she get from the airport in D.C. to the cafe to meet Maybourne (also without any money)? There isn't enough time elapsed for her to get to D.C. and then have fake Jack and Daniel show up moments after she arrives at the cafe. Maybourne says he talked to General Hammond after talking to Sam. Fake Hammond must have sent fake Jack and Daniel to the meeting. How did they get there so fast?

Plus, that whole climbing the ladder thing happened in other episodes as well. That escape hatch was used in "A Matter of Time" when Colonel Cromwell thought he was rescuing the SGC from an alien incursion.

The trainees in "Proving Ground" used it when Jack tricked them into thinking they were dealing with an alien incursion.

It has been used once or twice to evacuate the SGC when the self-destruct has been activated.

fems
November 13th, 2011, 08:04 AM
Sam presumably went by her house, to get her things (ID and money) and went to the airport to get a (commercial) flight and at the same time Maybourne informed Hammond who sent FakeJack and -Daniel after her (or perhaps they used a faster military hop) so they showed up around the same time...

Seaboe Muffinchucker
November 13th, 2011, 08:38 AM
Sam and Teal'c checked the security cameras in the surveillance room on level 16 and in the next scene she's going to climb out; it's possible she goes up from level sixteen, but considering that's where the security station is it's not very likely (to have an exit hatch open to that level). She could have also gone up to level eleven (where you have to change elevators) and climbed out from there.

If that is an emergency escape hatch (which is implied in numerous other episodes, starting with A Matter of Time), it must open at every level. Otherwise it's not much good as an escape route.

Seaboe

fems
November 13th, 2011, 09:08 AM
But it's not necessarily an emergency escape hatch, seeing as how Jack uses a similar one to get inside the SGC in Proving Ground.

In A Matter of Time they do use an emergency access, seeing as how they have to force everything open because they're coming in from the outside.

It's unclear if the stairs go to below as well from the way Sam goes up. It doesn't look like she has to watch her step (or fall down) or leap to the stairs but it's also not clear if there is a floor underneath the stairs.

Just checked the episode and the following is on the door:


Restricted access
LV 16 | 28841

Which would mean Sam went up to the surface from level 16 (I don't know what the other numbers mean, could be a 'random' number or means it has access from level 28 with 841 meaning something else).

Seaboe Muffinchucker
November 13th, 2011, 11:30 AM
But it's not necessarily an emergency escape hatch
That's what it's called in that 8th season episode right before Threads (the name of which I'm blanking on), so that's what I called it. I've noticed that in some episodes (Point of View) it's not easily accessible from inside. Other episodes (A Matter of Time) show that it's not accessible from outside. Others are somewhere in between (the mini-Jack episode, for example). I don't think this is one of those things where you can point at a single use and say "this is the canon use." However, based on what I know about fire and safety codes, I'd say it goes all the way from level 1 to level 28.


(I don't know what the other numbers mean, could be a 'random' number or means it has access from level 28 with 841 meaning something else).
Where I work, every door has a number. Mine is 42E2. I know what the 4 means (I'm on the 4th floor) and I know what the E means (the nearest row of columns is E). I also know I'll never figure out in a million years how they determine the other 2 numbers. So the other number is probably a location, maybe for emergency or facility services.

Seaboe

fems
November 13th, 2011, 11:38 AM
They're called differently in different episodes and used at different times in different situations, so unless the door actually has 'emergency access' on it (or someone calls it that in the show) I'm not calling it an emergency access door/hatch and therefore can't definitively say it goes all the way from sublevel 28 to the surface.

I'm not denying there are emergency access hatches that would probably go all the way to the surface (as stated and used in A Matter of Time), but I'm not sure this is one of them.

Though I must say this particular door was quite easy to open and Sam got out of the base without any trouble (I still don't see why Teal'c couldn't have gone with her), which is a bit worrisome for when there's another foothold situation or an outbreak of an alien disease which makes personnel want to reach the surface or something...

Brother Freyr
November 18th, 2011, 09:44 PM
What happened to SG-6 after the aliens impersonated them???
Hammond didn't say they were killed........


The script did not deal with that issue, so who knows.

Yeah. I assume they were killed. Maybe the military would classify them MIA?

Dimes
December 26th, 2011, 03:33 AM
This was a really good episode!
I really liked it.
Everything was good with it.
I ahve to say that this is probably one of my 10 favourites :)

mjwalshe
February 3rd, 2012, 12:57 PM
Heh heh...now I'm hooked on this idea of Evil Janet the System Lord. She'd probably wear black leather and chains. What was that Jack quote from season 5? "Four-foot-nine killing machine."



Lol maybe the same outfit Emma Peel had in the banned Avengers episode "A Touch of Brimstone"

Gate_Builder
February 7th, 2012, 11:01 AM
I think the alien technology in the room where the scanned people were hanging looked like it came from the Buckaroo Banzai aliens. Had kind of an "organic" look to it. I assume that all that stuff was later shipped to area 51 for further study because we dont really hear about it after that, except for the mimic devies themselves which were sent to area 51.

hedwig
February 10th, 2012, 05:50 PM
Heh heh...now I'm hooked on this idea of Evil Janet the System Lord. She'd probably wear black leather and chains. What was that Jack quote from season 5? "Four-foot-nine killing machine."

Except he was referring to Cadet Haley in "Prodigy" and "Proving Ground", ... not Janet. :)

Sam-n-Jack-in-<3
July 26th, 2012, 12:51 PM
One of the ones that's kind of meh...those aliens were gross!

The only thing I can say now is that I feel sorry for the people cleaning up the fish/bug juice in the gateroom. :S

Electric_Sheep
September 2nd, 2012, 12:19 AM
The aliens in this one had potential and seemed far more interesting than some of the other villains on the show. There are also the unanswered questions that are to be expected from a one-off appearance like the one they made: Why'd they want to take control of Earth? Where were they from, exactly? Will they be back or did us pesky humans frighten them off?

This episode is probably one of my favorites from Season Three, though most of the episodes in this season were pretty good anyway.

Girlbot
September 2nd, 2012, 05:36 AM
I liked this ep, and it would have been nice if they had made another ep where they encountered these aliens again.

Brother Freyr
September 3rd, 2012, 02:13 PM
I liked this ep, and it would have been nice if they had made another ep where they encountered these aliens again.
Yes, but at the same time, there's only so much you can do with aliens whose language is a series of grunts, warbles, and screeches. Episodes like this one remind me how impossible a show like SG-1 would be without the conceit of a universal language. (or a universal translator! :rolleyes:)

sgelite
October 24th, 2012, 03:11 PM
Just watched this episode, it has always been one of my favs, the fact it was such a close call and that in the end it was hushed up was great, also the first episode where jack showed any warmth to maybourne thus making the fans, us, accept him from that point on.

suse
October 24th, 2012, 04:46 PM
And I like that Maybourne didn't give Sam a hard time for really telling a senior officer off.

Seaboe Muffinchucker
October 25th, 2012, 06:39 AM
When viewed in hindsight, Maybourne is a nicer person than he appears early on. I can't think of a single instance where he retaliates for things people say to him.

Seaboe

Lunaeclipse
October 28th, 2012, 03:26 PM
When viewed in hindsight, Maybourne is a nicer person than he appears early on. I can't think of a single instance where he retaliates for things people say to him.

Seaboe
He's one of my favourite grey area bad guys on the show. When him and Jack are in the same scene I know it's going to be good. :)

Major Clanger
March 30th, 2013, 11:58 AM
not a bad ep this one. It also has the benefit of not only Maybourne but possibly the best line in the whole of the SG-1 canon.

I refer, of course, to "you're an idiot every day of the week" speech from Sam.

A few niggles: why would "Daniel" return via the hatch, alone without Sam and Maybourne when they are expected to arrive by plane. And why the heck do they persist in using those pistols instead of Zats, which have much better range and spread.

Falcon Horus
June 5th, 2013, 07:45 AM
Cool aliens -- and now we also know what an angry mosquito sounds like.... :p ...right before you slap it senseless for biting you.

First you want to slap Maybourne like that mosquito, but in the end you just wanna pat him on the back for a job well done. He came through in the end, and he credits Carter for the nice save.

Alien!Fraiser was creepy.

And I love the look Jack gave that nurse right before she jabbed him the butt with that needle. Priceless. :p

Baron Of Hell
June 17th, 2013, 06:51 AM
I wouldn't give Maybourne a pass for being a nice guy at the end. He didn't follow foothold procedure which could have ended the situation sooner. He basically put the world at risk because of his ego.

ErikaMariia
August 9th, 2013, 02:47 AM
I just re-watched this episode and a couple of things popped in my mind, sorry if they've been already mentioned.

first, when they rush to the control room after aliens have dialed out. Jack runs straight to a computer and starts working on something. What is he doing, he's not supposed to know anything about computers. I think that shows he actually does, just doesn't care, it's not HIS job. (I've always thought that Jack is way smarter than he lets people think.)

And the last scene where Mayborne comes to briefing room. I love that Jack smiles him, and thanks him. He may hate Maybornes guts but is big enough to give him credits when needed. And calls him Harry. I do not know about military protocol, but since they hold the same rank is it right that they can call each other by name instead of rank if they choose to?

Seaboe Muffinchucker
August 12th, 2013, 06:40 AM
Yes, since they're the same rank they can call each other by first names. You'll see that again with other characters.

Jack's hidden intelligence is a plot point for the series.

Seaboe

garhkal
August 12th, 2013, 12:58 PM
Normally when on their own (not with junior troops around, i have known many who call someone of the same rank by their first name. It is frowned on though when in the presence of juniors.

McAvoy
August 22nd, 2013, 03:30 AM
Episode is great. If the aliens ever did reappear, honestly they would have to redesign the helmets and outfit. I always thought it was too cheesy looking.

Falcon Horus
August 22nd, 2013, 03:36 AM
Old skool aliens... :p

Net effects unknown
January 24th, 2015, 03:15 AM
Best episode thus far. The Maybourne/Peter Principle factor makes it even better.

I don't get though why Maybourne's incompetence is rewarded and he is seen off as a the guy who saved the day in the end.

This is the first time his incompetence puts the entire planet in harm's way. Is he the only failsafe in a Foothold situation? The one time he is actually called upon, he doesn't follow procedure and is about to deliver himself to the aliens in the SCG.

Presumably the only way he could get out of this unscathed in the aftermath is that Maybourne gets to write the report on the incident and edits out his screw ups. How did he get out of this without repercussions? He only starts to do the right thing when he sees the alien on the plane. And even after that he doesn't do anything exceptionally. He sends the troops in. So what? Anyone could and would have done that in his place.

If he was any good, he would have had a spy network on almost every planet by then and would provide the SCG with valuable intelligence. After all most planets are human colonies with people that look like you and me. What better way to infiltrate the System Lord's domains? Instead he seems to be toying with the gadgets the SG teams bring back, which are mothballed in Area 51.

hedwig
January 24th, 2015, 03:14 PM
And the last scene where Mayborne comes to briefing room. I love that Jack smiles him, and thanks him. He may hate Maybornes guts but is big enough to give him credits when needed. And calls him Harry. I do not know about military protocol, but since they hold the same rank is it right that they can call each other by name instead of rank if they choose to?

I think it was in "Lost City" that Reynolds addressed Jack by his first name. I think he must have been promoted to Colonel not long before this, because prior to that he always referred to Jack as "sir" or "Colonel" rather than "Jack".

blueray
April 15th, 2015, 06:33 PM
I just randomly watched this one. All I remembered was the part when they are all hanging up. I totally forgot about Sam's whole storyline. I love her line to Maybourne. Also Jack had a good line (well many) but the best was after the alarm went off "...maybe they didn't hear that".

Teal'c kicking ass was awesome. And as usual always great to see Maybourne.

Janet Fraiser
April 15th, 2015, 07:53 PM
This just became one of my favorite episodes. The creepy factor was high from the beginning; a suspicious doctor with a gross-looking syringe? No, thanks. Evil twin Fraiser being punched in the face? It shouldn't have been funny, but... :p

Also, having Maybourne actually be helpful was a nice surprise.

What I really want to see, though, is what happened behind-the-scenes where everyone is hanging. How long did they have to stay up there? What do you even talk about between takes to pass the time? This girl would love to know.

Anja
September 12th, 2015, 02:45 AM
Nice ep, creepy aliens and a good O'Neill picking that device from the Alien-Janet!
Much action, could have been a two - parter.

garhkal
September 13th, 2015, 05:40 PM
Nice ep, creepy aliens and a good O'Neill picking that device from the Alien-Janet!
Much action, could have been a two - parter.

It should have been. Especially would have loved to see us going AFTER them to stop a 2nd attempt.

KennClique
May 22nd, 2016, 04:25 PM
Great episode with some of the ugliest aliens. Jack punching the alien Dr. Fraiser.....yea, it was weird for me too...lol.

Falcon Horus
January 27th, 2018, 01:11 PM
It's the Pi episode of Stargate SG-1 -- 314 ... 3,14 ... Pi .... get it? :mckayanime09:

Properly entertained by this episode. An alien invasion with proper aliens, as in they don't look human, but proper weird-looking aliens who mumble and grumble for speech. The way they decide on a new homeworld needs some work, but ah well... better luck next time.

Maybourne being an idiot every day of the week, except when he credits Carter for the happy ending. I do wonder who threatened him with what for him to actually say that. I mean, he didn't believe her word over that of General Hammond (he took that one at face value, didn't he) when she told him there was a foothold situation.

It was nice to see Major Davis again. He's always a joy to watch. And he and O'Neill dealing with Fraiser's evil twin. LOL!

Pretty straightforward episode with some fun stuff, and some evildoing by the evil twins of the captured personnel. Yup, properly entertained by this one.

How would you rate SG-1's "Foothold?"

Excellent
Good
Fair
Poor
Terrible

jelgate
January 27th, 2018, 01:34 PM
If you are going to go weeks ahead, the least you could do is make more puzzles:P

Falcon Horus
January 27th, 2018, 01:45 PM
If you are going to go weeks ahead, the least you could do is make more puzzles:P

I'm about to.

I'm having too much free time at the moment, the quiet before the storm as it were, and not in the mood to do much else. Which is a shame cause I should have done some prop-building today. Was planning on building a handy display stand for the fantasy axe I bought from PH.

jelgate
January 30th, 2018, 08:32 AM
Another one of the dropped story's which makes me kind of sad. We never learn where these aliens come from or why they decided to invade. Their is so much potential. On the episode alone, it feels like the standard aliens invade so we have to stop them. The fun twist is choosing Maybourne of all people to help and the mimic devices. I'd have to be the custodian who cleans up the mess. It's a fair

Falcon Horus
February 23rd, 2018, 10:17 AM
It's that time of the week, where I post the 3-episode quiz and the jigsaw puzzles:

The Devil You Know, Foothold & Pretense (https://goo.gl/forms/HJJHk0j6TgJfidl62)

Foothold (https://www.jigidi.com/solve.php?id=MXQLT7TS)

8 glorious minutes and 20 freakin' seconds until I finished it -- it's like I'm loosing jigsaw skills instead of gaining them. :S

Who Knows
February 27th, 2018, 04:45 PM
15. 52, so do not feel bad, there is always somebody worse than you http://i.imgur.com/Mmo9zFu.gif

Falcon Horus
February 28th, 2018, 12:48 AM
15. 52, so do not feel bad, there is always somebody worse than you http://i.imgur.com/Mmo9zFu.gif

Ah well... practice, practice, practice... and more practice, for both of us. ;)

jelgate
March 14th, 2018, 09:23 AM
Their was almost an apocalaypse but I saved us FH with 7 minutes and 50 seconds

Falcon Horus
March 14th, 2018, 12:04 PM
That was close though... :p

jelgate
March 14th, 2018, 01:30 PM
You have been pushing me a lot lately. I also notice your puzzles have gotten bigger with harder background

Falcon Horus
March 15th, 2018, 12:35 AM
You have been pushing me a lot lately. I also notice your puzzles have gotten bigger with harder background

I'll keep that in mind, for the ones yet to come. ;)

BethHG
June 25th, 2018, 05:34 AM
10:27

I really liked this episode! Maybourne helped save the day, even though he didn't listen to Sam in the beginning. I always like when Sam gets all "sciencey" and stuff-- awesome job figuring out the frequency.

Major Davis and O'Neill meeting each other for the first time, and working as a team to overcome the aliens was fantastic!

Poor Junior being poked and prodded.:(

These aliens were so very alien, too bad they were never seen again.

Platschu
August 27th, 2018, 09:52 AM
3x14 Foothold
Teal’c has shot a guard who was a mimicri alien. So why has the original SGC guard not weaken up?

Falcon Horus
August 28th, 2018, 01:44 AM
3x14 Foothold
Teal’c has shot a guard who was a mimicri alien. So why has the original SGC guard not weaken up?

He didn't die?

The link only severed after death.

Platschu
August 28th, 2018, 02:59 AM
It was the guard which was shoot by Teal'c twice with zats at 11:00.

Falcon Horus
August 28th, 2018, 07:11 AM
It was the guard which was shoot by Teal'c twice with zats at 11:00.

Yeah well, technically speaking, the human counterpart should have woken up.

lunasera
December 6th, 2018, 08:47 PM
Their was almost an apocalaypse but I saved us FH with 7 minutes and 50 seconds

7.31 :jack_new_anime18:

Falcon Horus
December 10th, 2018, 01:35 AM
7.31 :jack_new_anime18:

:D

Someone's gonna love hearing that. :p