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Erik Pasternak
July 10th, 2005, 05:51 PM
The overnight ratings are in.

Last night, NBC got it's butt kicked by every other network. It came in last place every single hour it aired, scoring absolutely dismal ratings. Full report here (http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_main/1,1002,272|96272|1|,00.html).

TechnoWraith
July 10th, 2005, 05:57 PM
Is that any indication of how syndication for BSG is going to go? :rolleyes:

Vampgrrl
July 10th, 2005, 06:00 PM
Uhm well it was Saturday night, and it was reruns which just aired on SciFi a few days ago...and BSG wouldnt survive first run on network TV, almost no scifi show could.

Erik Pasternak
July 10th, 2005, 06:04 PM
Uhm well it was Saturday night, and it was reruns which just aired on SciFi a few days ago...and BSG wouldnt survive first run on network TV, almost no scifi show could.
True, it did just air on Sci-Fi, but I assume this was largely for the benefit of those without Sci-Fi channel. Suffice it to say, I don't think NBC will be airing BSG again anytime soon.

Dahak
July 10th, 2005, 06:21 PM
Ah but at least NBC tried to help out it's daughter networks.
When Sci-Fi showed The 4400 to atract new viewers to the show when it's on USA or when NBC shows BSG that is a far better reciprocal relationship than Viacom has with it's serf networks. Sure NBC is the top dog but CBS doesn't care about Spike, MTV, or especially UPN in the least.

fair_nymph
July 11th, 2005, 10:14 AM
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Helo
July 11th, 2005, 12:40 PM
Ah but at least NBC tried to help out it's daughter networks.
When Sci-Fi showed The 4400 to atract new viewers to the show when it's on USA or when NBC shows BSG that is a far better reciprocal relationship than Viacom has with it's serf networks. Sure NBC is the top dog but CBS doesn't care about Spike, MTV, or especially UPN in the least.

UPN is trying to attract an almost all african-american audience. MTV doesn't need any help. And Spike is for guys, no way of helping that out without killing the family ratings.

Dahak
July 11th, 2005, 05:03 PM
UPN is trying to attract an almost all african-american audience. MTV doesn't need any help. And Spike is for guys, no way of helping that out without killing the family ratings.

So CBS should make no effort to help out the ratings of their secondary networks?
Do you think that Viacom is being run well? Is annoying the WWE into trying to leave really that smart since it is the #1 show on 2 networks? Was moving Enterprise to Fridays and then cancelling it when it still got good ratings (for UPN) smart?
Watch the Sci-Fi channel on Fridays (which I assume you do) can you tell me where UPN shows as much excitement and brags about it's lineup like SF channel does? Watch USA on Sundays and count how many different 4400 and Dead Zone commercials there are. Enterprise had 2 bumpers for their entire 4 year run because UPN is lazy.
CBS is always going to be the top dog but as long as Viacom neglects everything else all of the secondary channels are going to keep having problems. Showing CSI on Spike is not a bad idea but UPN and Spike are really bad.
Sure NBC has a lot of problems compared to CBS but I think that USA is being run better than UPN and SF channel is being run a hell of a lot better than Spike.

Helo
July 11th, 2005, 06:37 PM
So CBS should make no effort to help out the ratings of their secondary networks?
Do you think that Viacom is being run well? Is annoying the WWE into trying to leave really that smart since it is the #1 show on 2 networks? Was moving Enterprise to Fridays and then cancelling it when it still got good ratings (for UPN) smart?
Watch the Sci-Fi channel on Fridays (which I assume you do) can you tell me where UPN shows as much excitement and brags about it's lineup like SF channel does? Watch USA on Sundays and count how many different 4400 and Dead Zone commercials there are. Enterprise had 2 bumpers for their entire 4 year run because UPN is lazy.
CBS is always going to be the top dog but as long as Viacom neglects everything else all of the secondary channels are going to keep having problems. Showing CSI on Spike is not a bad idea but UPN and Spike are really bad.
Sure NBC has a lot of problems compared to CBS but I think that USA is being run better than UPN and SF channel is being run a hell of a lot better than Spike.

SF has alot better shows then most channels. And enterprise was good but I like the new galactica alot better then enterprise.

rook818
July 11th, 2005, 07:50 PM
The overnight ratings are in.

Last night, NBC got it's butt kicked by every other network. It came in last place every single hour it aired, scoring absolutely dismal ratings. Full report here (http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_main/1,1002,272|96272|1|,00.html).

Two words....Saturday nights.

Besides, does anyone really watch network TV exclusively anymore? The power and influence of network TV is on the wane. The mere fact that a show like BSG, as well as countless other 1st rate shows premiere on cable is a major sign. I give it 3 to 5 years then the advertising rates for cable shows will parellel network TV.

Dahak
July 11th, 2005, 11:59 PM
SF has alot better shows then most channels. And enterprise was good but I like the new galactica alot better then enterprise.


You didn't answer the quesiton though. Do you think that Viacom is a well run organization? Does Viacom do enough cross advertising to help out all of the channels or is it pretty much help CBS all the rest can fend for themselves?
I first saw the 4400 on SF channel on now watch it on USA. Show me a
Viacom program where they show each other shows other than CSI which
mainly helps out CBS. Except for VH1 and MTV the various Viacom channels
have very little cross contact with each other. They don't show very many commercials for each other shows.
BSG got bad ratings on NBC even for NBC on a Saturday. But what did it hurt NBC? It's not like they pulled ER to show BSG. It's the summer and NBC had nothing to show so why not show BSG which gets good ratings on SF and more importantly has allready been paid for. Sure BSG got bad ratings but for very little cost. It's why dreck like reality shows are popular. Even if the ratings suck they don't cost as much as regular shows.
I am not saying that Viacom should go as far as USA and SF channel do working together but I don't think anyone can call UPN or Spike well run.

dec55
July 12th, 2005, 10:35 PM
It was a rerun played 3 times over....... They should have offered something new like behind the scenes with the cast. BG got better ratings on cable.

shinyredpants
July 12th, 2005, 11:31 PM
and NBC is a high caliber company...in which the general population watches.

and what does the general population want?

stuff like survivor.

oh and walker texas ranger!

Blade Runner
July 13th, 2005, 04:39 AM
Who in their right mind would expect some one to watch the last 3 episodes of a season when they know the viewer wont have a clue whats going on. Daft really and it's NBC's own fault, it's the network who failed. What a bunch of thickies, common sense does'nt seem to be distributed among network execs

zats
July 14th, 2005, 10:40 AM
Good point. BSG's so intense that you can't hope to begin to understand it from three episodes, let alone ones from so late in the season. They didn't have a snowball's hope it working--kudos for trying, yes, but I'd give more kudos if they'd tried harder.

Darth Buddha
July 14th, 2005, 11:02 AM
Subtract out those who had already seen the program in one of its many airings (BSG was re-aired at odd hours throughout the week) and you really don't have that much of a target audience left!

Dahak
July 14th, 2005, 04:32 PM
First as I said before showing BSG cost the network basicly nothing. They didn't have to pay money to show a movie (since they made it) and the cast, crew, and other had allready been paid. Sure the ratings sucked but if they spent enough less to offset the low ratings they still come out at least even.
Second no one here is thinking like a suit. If BSG gets good ratings on Friday then it must be because the mini was shown on Friday. Also if the DVD sales go up then once again it was in part (at least in theory) due to showing the mini on NBC.
Third while it didn't work out at least NBC tried to pimp a show on the main network to get viewers to watch a cable show. NBC and Fox are the only two offhand that I can think of that does a pretty good job of cross promoting their shows.

jckfan55
July 14th, 2005, 05:18 PM
Good point. BSG's so intense that you can't hope to begin to understand it from three episodes, let alone ones from so late in the season.
That's kind of what I was thinking. You'd have to be somewhat familiar with the backstory to understand late season eps. Besides, anyone over 35? who hadn't been paying attention probably thought BSG was just like the old 70s show.

chyron
July 14th, 2005, 06:53 PM
Personally, I didn't realize that there WAS a BSG event on NBC. Maybe the issue was its promotion. At any rate, I would have done something much bigger like the following...

(All on or after September 15th....)
Hour 1 - BSG Behind the Scenes & Season 2 sneak peak
Hour 2 - Hour long Season 1 recap
Hour 3 - Air the Season 2 Premier

Also, I wouldn't use the performance on NBC as an indicator of how BSG will do in syndication. However, given that some of the episodes were a bit racy - actually MOST of the episodes with Number Sex - I'm thinking that its going to be interesting to see if they're edited or air later in the evenings.

chanvw
July 15th, 2005, 12:00 AM
The overnight ratings are in.

Last night, NBC got it's butt kicked by every other network. It came in last place every single hour it aired, scoring absolutely dismal ratings. Full report here (http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_main/1,1002,272|96272|1|,00.html).

The same happened here in Australia - Channel 10 ran a large advertising campaign for BSG before it aired here, but the ratings weren't too good, so they pushed it back to a really late timeslot by the end of the season.

chyron
July 15th, 2005, 04:31 AM
I think that NBC would have been better of airing the original mini-series and the seaons finale (with somesort of filler bridge in-between to cover the highlights between the two). I mean who WASN'T shocked when [ Adama was shot and then the Star baby revelation at the end. ]

Rushlight
July 18th, 2005, 09:30 PM
I think everyone is missing the most important poinst: I got to watch BSG in HD when it was on NBC!