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Easter Lily
July 7th, 2005, 06:43 PM
A lighter comic book adaptation... certainly... but still lots of fun...
Our foursome did very well with what they were given and Julian McMahon put in a credible performance as Victor von Doom.

Has anyone else seen it yet?

Blue Banrigh
July 8th, 2005, 12:49 AM
I saw it last night with my sister. Lighter and fun is definately how I would describe it.

Johnny Storm entertained me the most with his flyboy attitude, he had the best one liners. And I might add that he and Ioan looked very, very good in their uniforms.

The Ben Grimm story for me felt like it was dealt with too quickly, all of a sudden he was alright with it?

And the Reed/Storm romance did nothing for me, but that might have stemmed from my dislike of Jessica Alba.

Easter Lily
July 8th, 2005, 01:13 AM
I think they tried to cram in too many things in such a short space of time.

The whole Ben Grimm arc was very rushed... it was quick how he lost the girl and found another in such a short space of time.

And yes... our two lead males did look very good in their suits... ;)

Blue Banrigh
July 8th, 2005, 01:27 AM
I think it's the kinda movie you watch, but then forget about. I'm struggling to remember bits of the story and what came where even though I just saw it last night.

The effects for the Human Torch was well done, but Mr Fantastic kinda looked flat and cartoonish, not to mention a little bit freaky (though how to portray stretchy human realistically is beyond me).

Was it shot in Canada? Cause I saw some Stargate guest stars, there was that General from Prodigy, Robert Rothman and Priest Elosha from BSG.

Easter Lily
July 8th, 2005, 01:35 AM
Not sure about where they shot it... But I'm sure IMDB will have the relevant info.

I think to do Mr Fantastic was always going to be difficult... I didn't think they did it too badly all things considered. Some bits did look cartoonish but I seem to remember similar problems with the first Spiderman movie. If they do a sequel, I hope they iron them out...

divcon
July 8th, 2005, 01:44 AM
Watching ET today and they said that all the stars had signed on for 3 Fantastic Four movies. I saw it on Monday night at a preview screening and I LOVED it. I liked the fact that they explained how they got their 'powers'. Knowing that there will be at least three movies I can see that they will be able to cover more about Ben in the next movie. Maybe he's not as OK with it as he seemed to be, he only changed back to protect his friends.

Blue Banrigh
July 8th, 2005, 01:55 AM
What trailers did you see? I was hoping for Serenity but no joy. I got Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, The Island and something about Dogs... it had John Cusack in it.

*Checks IMDB* It was shot in Vancouver Canada.

Easter Lily
July 8th, 2005, 02:07 AM
What trailers did you see? I was hoping for Serenity but no joy. I got Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, The Island and something about Dogs... it had John Cusack in it.

*Checks IMDB* It was shot in Vancouver Canada.
Trailers that I saw included... The Wallace and Gromit movie, The Wedding Crashers (Owen Wilson and Vince Vaughn)... can't remember what the other one was.

Easter Lily
July 8th, 2005, 02:14 AM
Watching ET today and they said that all the stars had signed on for 3 Fantastic Four movies. I saw it on Monday night at a preview screening and I LOVED it. I liked the fact that they explained how they got their 'powers'. Knowing that there will be at least three movies I can see that they will be able to cover more about Ben in the next movie. Maybe he's not as OK with it as he seemed to be, he only changed back to protect his friends.
I know I've been picking at bits and pieces but I really enjoyed it too. I came out smiling and looking forward to a sequel. I never thought it would be in the same league as Batman but the way that some of the critics have panned it, you'd think it was the equivalent of Plan 9 from Outer Space. I thought Ioan Gruffudd and Jessica Alba had quite good chemistry actually but I don't dislike Jessica Alba as much as most people seem to. I remember that she was quite good in Dark Angel. Obviously Chris Evans and Michael Chiklis had the most showy parts and lines but I thought that Ioan brought a quiet dignity to the role of Reed Richards. Sort of like an older Hornblower...
I heard that George Clooney was in line for the role at some point but I don't think o'l George would've been right... not as a scientific genius... Can't see it , I'm afraid.

jsw
July 8th, 2005, 11:26 AM
I was expecting to be horrible after watching it., but it turned out to be entertaining after all. Thought they had a good group of acters. Granted any movie jessica alba is in does make it more interesting to watch.

StarzSkyMoon
July 8th, 2005, 07:21 PM
i really enjoyed this movie. i went into it a skeptic, but came out entertained. Who can not love a movie with eye candy such as Chris Evans :p. i enjoyed the plot immensely. Though some effects and scene shifts were lacking, i thought it was pretty good considering it came from the same director that made taxi.

All in all i think it was money well spent.

:cool: Lizbeth

divcon
July 8th, 2005, 07:47 PM
I know I've been picking at bits and pieces but I really enjoyed it too. I came out smiling and looking forward to a sequel. I never thought it would be in the same league as Batman but the way that some of the critics have panned it, you'd think it was the equivalent of Plan 9 from Outer Space. I thought Ioan Gruffudd and Jessica Alba had quite good chemistry actually but I don't dislike Jessica Alba as much as most people seem to. I remember that she was quite good in Dark Angel. Obviously Chris Evans and Michael Chiklis had the most showy parts and lines but I thought that Ioan brought a quiet dignity to the role of Reed Richards. Sort of like an older Hornblower...
I heard that George Clooney was in line for the role at some point but I don't think o'l George would've been right... not as a scientific genius... Can't see it , I'm afraid.

Glad to hear it Easter. I loved Dark Angel and was disgusted with how they ended it. I couldn't se George Clooney as Reed either, Ioan was great in the role and I loved how they even gave him the grey at the temples. Chris Evans was funny and Michael's eyes were so expresive. Can't wait for the DVD to see what special features it has and I look forward to the sequel. :) :)

Manic
July 9th, 2005, 11:51 AM
If so many people liked this movie, why are the critics panning it so much? Are film critics just that pretentious or something? I really don't get the negative critic reaction vs. positive general public reaction.

Easter Lily
July 9th, 2005, 03:10 PM
I'm not sure about the answer to that question, Manic...
I expected to see a fun comic book adaptation with lots of one liners, action and good team dynamic and I did... I'm not convinced that every film that is made needs to be epic, poignant or deeply philosophical... it is a comic book adaptation afterall... how often do people gain superpowers... :rolleyes:
I don't know what the critics were looking for. Perhaps they thought they were watching Batman Begins Revisited. Don't get me wrong... I love BB on the basis of what they were trying to do and I'm a huge fan of the film but I'm just glad that FF is a totally different film altogether and that it caters to a wider audience.

TheObiJuan
July 9th, 2005, 03:15 PM
Oh did I love this movie. Best sci-fi movie of the year!
I will watch it atleast 3 more times. ;)
I did catch my self actualy laughing out loud multiple times.

Blue Banrigh
July 10th, 2005, 03:13 AM
One part I did remember laughing at was when Alba showed up in the suit and it turned out he was more interested in the material than her in it. :D I thought it was going to one of those cliched gawky moments and it turned out to be a geeky moment instead.

As for the bad reviews... well the review my newspaper panned it for being effects focused and how they didn't focus on the dysfunctional family routine.

I thought they did the dysfunctional family thing well. How often do you see superheroes having a fistacuffs out in public with each other rather than the villian.

Elwe Singollo
July 10th, 2005, 03:17 AM
If so many people liked this movie, why are the critics panning it so much? Are film critics just that pretentious or something? I really don't get the negative critic reaction vs. positive general public reaction.Haven't you gotten it by now? Critics are like... 10 percent right of the time. They probably look for only the cons of the movie and never even think about looking for the pros. MSN did give it 3 in half stars, which isnt too bad since MSN usually gives most movies bad ratings...

Wow, i just love the Storm family. :) Haha... Imo, they had the best moments in the movie. Johny naming the team, "Invisible Girl" and then Sue throws a little fit about that. :rolleyes:

yaaayoubetcha
July 11th, 2005, 06:21 AM
I do believe it was filmed in Vancouver or thereabout....

Terry David Mulligan was one of the newsies asking them questions...the former Much Music Much West VJ...and i don't think he travels to california/ny that much...prefers to stay home.

tsaxlady
July 11th, 2005, 11:50 PM
I think it's the kinda movie you watch, but then forget about. I'm struggling to remember bits of the story and what came where even though I just saw it last night.

The effects for the Human Torch was well done, but Mr Fantastic kinda looked flat and cartoonish, not to mention a little bit freaky (though how to portray stretchy human realistically is beyond me).

Was it shot in Canada? Cause I saw some Stargate guest stars, there was that General from Prodigy, Robert Rothman and Priest Elosha from BSG.

Yes most of it was filmed in Vancouver - When I was at the Vancouver Stargate Con in April I did the set tour. They had signs in the parking lot for Fantastic Four. I asked Matin Gero about them and he said that they did a little filming at Bridge Studios and they had a post production team working out of Bridge Studio to finish the film. Dan Shea (Sgt. Siler) was a stuntman in the movie. He was telling my table about one of the scenes that he did Friday night at the Burbank Con. I have not seen the movie yet but I hope to go see it tomorrow.

Blue Banrigh
July 12th, 2005, 03:25 AM
Yes most of it was filmed in Vancouver - When I was at the Vancouver Stargate Con in April I did the set tour. They had signs in the parking lot for Fantastic Four. I asked Matin Gero about them and he said that they did a little filming at Bridge Studios and they had a post production team working out of Bridge Studio to finish the film. Dan Shea (Sgt. Siler) was a stuntman in the movie. He was telling my table about one of the scenes that he did Friday night at the Burbank Con. I have not seen the movie yet but I hope to go see it tomorrow.
Can you tell us about the stunt, I'm curious to see if I remember it.

Ancient 1
July 12th, 2005, 03:28 PM
Another case of the bad guy outshining the good guys...or gals; much like the earlier Batman movies. :rolleyes: Doom is an excellent baddie, and probably where the Emperor and Anubis got their fashion tips.:rolleyes:

BackStageJim
July 12th, 2005, 08:53 PM
A definate step above the 1994 film ... I still gag watching that one.

Elwe Singollo
July 13th, 2005, 01:51 AM
Another case of the bad guy outshining the good guys...or gals; much like the earlier Batman movies. :rolleyes: Doom is an excellent baddie, and probably where the Emperor and Anubis got their fashion tips.:rolleyes:He is a good bad guy! But throughout the movie, all i could feel towards Doom was depression! His life was going downhill... :( Wah. i felt bad for him.

Larry
July 13th, 2005, 09:24 AM
Here's why I think the critics disliked it. They compaired it to Spider-Man, X-Men, Batman Begins, and thought the FF story was lightweight in comparison. It just shows that the critics don't know comic books. I thought the film was written very faithfully to how the comic books is, and always has been written. It's always been lighter. Ben and Johnny always bicker, and Johnny is always trying to pull one over on Ben. Reed has always been the nerd with Sue always trying to push him out of his nerdish science mode. It's a classic 60's comic book thats always retained that feel even though we're 40 years down the road. I loved it and Roger Ebert and Richard Roper can give it thumbs down if they want, but thats because they just don't understand it.

Elwe Singollo
July 13th, 2005, 09:40 AM
Here's why I think the critics disliked it. They compaired it to Spider-Man, X-Men, Batman Begins, and thought the FF story was lightweight in comparison. It just shows that the critics don't know comic books. I thought the film was written very faithfully to how the comic books is, and always has been written. It's always been lighter. Ben and Johnny always bicker, and Johnny is always trying to pull one over on Ben. Reed has always been the nerd with Sue always trying to push him out of his nerdish science mode. It's a classic 60's comic book thats always retained that feel even though we're 40 years down the road. I loved it and Roger Ebert and Richard Roper can give it thumbs down if they want, but thats because they just don't understand it.I totally agree with the 'Ebert and Roper' part, their critique's feel uneducated when they are commenting specifically on comic book movies. I have nothing against Spiderman 2, but i am one of those few who really thought it wasn't the greatest movie that people think/thought it was. I can go on with my negativity, but that would just make me look like an ugly person... :rolleyes:

Manic
July 13th, 2005, 03:05 PM
It's a classic 60's comic book thats always retained that feel even though we're 40 years down the road.
That's the amazing thing about Fantastic Four. So many comic books have gotten darker over the years. During the 1990s, when Spawn became such a huge hit, the folks at Marvel were under the impression that darkness sells. A ton of other titles became darker, grittier, and less innocent. To this day, a lot of comics haven't recovered.

Fantastic Four stayed true to form. It never swayed away from what it originally was: the story of a weird family with superpowers. It's fun, light-hearted, and wacky. Not too long ago, I was reading a Fan4 graphic novel where the first very thing you see is Johnny refuse to give Ben his paycheck everyday for a full week, followed by Ben dropping a giant water-balloon on Johnny-- a water balloon bigger than the Thing himself.

The sad thing is, darkness does sell with movie critics. Million Dollar Baby was among the most depressing movies released last year, and it took home half of the Oscars. Ebert hated the first Spider-Man movie, but loved the depressing, angst-filled sequel.

Easter Lily
July 13th, 2005, 04:00 PM
That's what I've always remembered about the Fantastic Four too... from years ago... I've always thought that it was a light-hearted, mischievous comic book with lots of banter. In fact, I seem to remember that Spiderman had quite a bit of banter too. While I loved Spiderman 2 as a film, it lacks the levity I remember -- the bad puns, cheesy throwaway lines that went back and forth between Spidey and villian of the week.

While I loved Batman Begins, I don't think it is necessarily for everyone. I think it is entirely appropriate for Batman to be grim and realistic considering his backstory. But if every comic book adaptation is going to be angsty and gritty, what are parents going to take their kids to?

Its box office position has defied critical reception overall. People seem to know what they like. After the harrowing WOTW and the angsty Batman Begins (both decent films in their own right), the public seems to be looking for something on the lighter side.

AGateFan
August 1st, 2005, 12:09 PM
I saw it and I liked it. I did think it was more comicbooky then Xmen or BB but hey its based on a lighter comic book so what do you expect. If I had to chose between seeing this again or WOTW again I would see this. I just had more fun with this movie.

Elwe Singollo
August 1st, 2005, 12:12 PM
I saw it and I liked it. I did think it was more comicbooky then Xmen or BB but hey its based on a lighter comic book so what do you expect. If I had to chose between seeing this again or WOTW again I would see this. I just had more fun with this movie.I think i would too as well. I can just take so much of Dakota F.'s screaming. :rolleyes: