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<FONT SIZE=1>EPISODE NUMBER - 304</FONT>
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When Daniel goes insane, SG-1 must deal with the legacy of Machello's anti-Goa'uld technology.

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SeaBee
June 7th, 2004, 10:53 AM
This was a very good ep.

MS plays a psychotic really well. No wonder it's a roll he seems to get to play a lot! :D

Anubis
June 7th, 2004, 10:57 AM
He did a good performance in this episode, and a even better performance in season seven's Lifeboat

Elwe Singollo
June 7th, 2004, 11:13 AM
Yah Michael Shanks is good playing crazy, kind of scary though... Haha... Well nevermind, its not scary, its skills... :)

Anubis
June 7th, 2004, 11:18 AM
For his Lifeboat performance he won a Leo award so everyone who has not seen it and likes MS, look out for this ep!

Elwe Singollo
June 7th, 2004, 11:21 AM
Yes, an even better acting example.

DanielFan
June 8th, 2004, 12:22 PM
I thought that this episode was really well done. I am a very big MS fan. Lifeboat was awesome as well.

Elwe Singollo
June 8th, 2004, 12:30 PM
I'm a MS fan as well, wow, you should see him play a bad guy in a movie called suspicioun river, or something like that, hes such a very very bad person inthe movie, haha...

Madeleine
June 11th, 2004, 10:41 PM
It was truly awesome acting. The scenes where Daniel gets progressively worse, starting just after the return from the planet and up to his attack on Jack's 'symbiote' are really intriguing. Then the scenes in the white room were just incredible.

Elwe Singollo
June 11th, 2004, 11:21 PM
Gah, i've always hate white rooms, you have nowhere to go, and its nothign but white pads... :( I hope i don't become crazy, haha... When Daniel was going even more crazier and started laughing (the crazy laugh) scared me haha...

Iskandra
June 12th, 2004, 07:51 AM
I actually know *real* people who had psychotic episodes like that, and MS was doing it pretty convincing...kniowing what it really looks like made it scary for me. Though I do get the impression some people around here think of psychical illness just as being "whacky" or something. Guys (and gals), it's *not* funny. Really.

SaharaGate
June 16th, 2004, 06:14 AM
Ok I just watched this episode again (coz it's such a goody), but this time around I've got a few issues with it.

It leaves a lot of unanswered questions, so if anyone can tell me the answers, I'll be very grateful.

1. Which of the Linvers used a Ribbon device to lock the secret chamber from the inside and why? It doesn't seem very goa'uld like to try to stop a 'plague', for want of a better word, from spreading to other Goa'uld. If you saw the goa'ulds around you dropping off like flies, the first reaction would probably be to get as far away as possible, not to lock yourself in with them. I've never thought of the goa'uld as a self-sacrificing race. If the person was already affected, again the reaction would be to go get help.

Not to mention that if you were a goa'uld host and some device killed your symbiot, you'd probably start jumping for joy and then get out of there ASAP.

2. Why were only nine of the ten devices released from the page-turning device? When Carter and Frasier used the page-turner, all ten emerged. My brother suggested that it was because they turned the pages several times, but it seems a little convenient to me to suppose that each goa'uld there turned the page only once and got infected with only one Goa'uld killing blob. Besides, we checked on slow-motion and 3 or 4 get released each time the page turner is moved over the tablet. AND the whole ingenuity of the trap is that the fake page-turners don't actually turn the page. So the natural reaction of the Goa'uld is to try it a couple of times - which would release all ten.

If, then, all ten were released and went into all the goa'uld in the room, why did one of them survive and go back into the page turning device to later infect Daniel? Carter, Frasier and O'Neill all had several critters in them. When the protein markers were injected, ALL of them came out dead, not just one. This suggests that as soon as they detect the protein marker (ie. a dead symbiot), they all switch off, or die. So if all ten were released and the extra one also went into a goa'uld, it should have died along with all the other blobs. It had completed its job, which is to seek out and destroy the goa'uld (which is why the extra one went from Daniel into Teal'c - it had no job to do in Daniel but sensed a job to do in Teal'c).

And even if, contrary to what we see on-screen, each turn of the page releases one goa'uld-killing critter and each of the Linvers turned the page once, they all would have been infected at different times and their symptoms would not have developed at the same rate. Particularly because it took a little while for Teal'c to be affected after being infection. This would further imply that some would have still been healthy while others were getting sick - and would not have wanted to be locked in.

3. When Carter looks through the Area 51 database of Machello's machines to fight the Goa'uld, there are in fact about twelve of the page-turning devices. Carter and Frasier examined just one of these and ten goa'uld killing blobs were released. Does this mean the SGC has 120 goa'uld killing critters and never tried to use them?

Fair enough...they do unfortunately also kill Jaffa, not just goa'uld. But the SGC now has an 'antidote' and in the right circumstances (e.g. Summit) they could be very effective.

The more I think about all this, the more confused I get :S

Anyone got any answers? Cause I'm stumped...

Dani347
June 16th, 2004, 09:53 AM
I actually know *real* people who had psychotic episodes like that, and MS was doing it pretty convincing...kniowing what it really looks like made it scary for me. Though I do get the impression some people around here think of psychical illness just as being "whacky" or something. Guys (and gals), it's *not* funny. Really.

No funny here. When I saw it, I was sorry and scared for and with Daniel.

Elwe Singollo
June 16th, 2004, 02:57 PM
Although, inside, i already knew he wouldn't be in there forever... :) But yah, by just watching Sam get all 'semi' teary eyed, it was sad to watch.

Jafana
June 16th, 2004, 09:55 PM
Ok I just watched this episode again (coz it's such a goody), but this time around I've got a few issues with it.

It leaves a lot of unanswered questions, so if anyone can tell me the answers, I'll be very grateful.

1. Which of the Linvers used a Ribbon device to lock the secret chamber from the inside and why? It doesn't seem very goa'uld like to try to stop a 'plague', for want of a better word, from spreading to other Goa'uld. If you saw the goa'ulds around you dropping off like flies, the first reaction would probably be to get as far away as possible, not to lock yourself in with them. I've never thought of the goa'uld as a self-sacrificing race. If the person was already affected, again the reaction would be to go get help.

Not to mention that if you were a goa'uld host and some device killed your symbiot, you'd probably start jumping for joy and then get out of there ASAP.

2. Why were only nine of the ten devices released from the page-turning device? When Carter and Frasier used the page-turner, all ten emerged. My brother suggested that it was because they turned the pages several times, but it seems a little convenient to me to suppose that each goa'uld there turned the page only once and got infected with only one Goa'uld killing blob. Besides, we checked on slow-motion and 3 or 4 get released each time the page turner is moved over the tablet. AND the whole ingenuity of the trap is that the fake page-turners don't actually turn the page. So the natural reaction of the Goa'uld is to try it a couple of times - which would release all ten.

If, then, all ten were released and went into all the goa'uld in the room, why did one of them survive and go back into the page turning device to later infect Daniel? Carter, Frasier and O'Neill all had several critters in them. When the protein markers were injected, ALL of them came out dead, not just one. This suggests that as soon as they detect the protein marker (ie. a dead symbiot), they all switch off, or die. So if all ten were released and the extra one also went into a goa'uld, it should have died along with all the other blobs. It had completed its job, which is to seek out and destroy the goa'uld (which is why the extra one went from Daniel into Teal'c - it had no job to do in Daniel but sensed a job to do in Teal'c).

And even if, contrary to what we see on-screen, each turn of the page releases one goa'uld-killing critter and each of the Linvers turned the page once, they all would have been infected at different times and their symptoms would not have developed at the same rate. Particularly because it took a little while for Teal'c to be affected after being infection. This would further imply that some would have still been healthy while others were getting sick - and would not have wanted to be locked in.

3. When Carter looks through the Area 51 database of Machello's machines to fight the Goa'uld, there are in fact about twelve of the page-turning devices. Carter and Frasier examined just one of these and ten goa'uld killing blobs were released. Does this mean the SGC has 120 goa'uld killing critters and never tried to use them?

Fair enough...they do unfortunately also kill Jaffa, not just goa'uld. But the SGC now has an 'antidote' and in the right circumstances (e.g. Summit) they could be very effective.

The more I think about all this, the more confused I get :S

Anyone got any answers? Cause I'm stumped...



I will have to go and watch it again before I can make any comments.

I only watched it the other day though. ggrr. stupid essays, making me forget stuff

Selmak
July 10th, 2004, 08:50 PM
you would think SG-1 would get used to weird things happening and not automatically assume they are crazy.

DF2506
July 13th, 2004, 11:12 AM
I just saw this episode last night (during the Stargate monday maratheon). It was the first time I'd see it.

It was a very good episode! Micheal Shanks was GREAT in it! He was VERY convincing. I really thought he'd gone crazy!!

My favorite part of the episode is probably:




When Dr. Jackson opens up his closet and the Stargate wormhole was there (reminded me of that commerical where the guy opens his fridge and the wormhole is in there! lol! ). Then, a creature comes out of the wormhole, grabs Jackson, and pulls him in!! Very cool! :)



Anyway, very good episode!!

I like these Stargate Mondays! :)

DF2506
" Just recently got into Stargate alot. I have seen the first episode and a couple of other episodes (some from season 6), but I hadn't been into Stargate as much as I am now! Its a VERY good series! "

Selmak
July 15th, 2004, 06:44 PM
Those refrigerator/garage door commercials are cool.

Mio
July 15th, 2004, 06:46 PM
Yeh they are. But there are so many other things that could have event horizons....TVs, Monitors....closet doors.....

Selmak
July 26th, 2004, 07:23 PM
That is a good point... a TV would be the BEST!

Iskandra
July 27th, 2004, 01:48 AM
What? Would you try to jump into your tv then? I just hope it's not one of those little portable ones...shame to get stuck in the event horizon.... ;)

KorbenDirewolf
July 27th, 2004, 01:04 PM
Ok I just watched this episode again (coz it's such a goody), but this time around I've got a few issues with it.

It leaves a lot of unanswered questions, so if anyone can tell me the answers, I'll be very grateful.

1. Which of the Linvers used a Ribbon device to lock the secret chamber from the inside and why? It doesn't seem very goa'uld like to try to stop a 'plague', for want of a better word, from spreading to other Goa'uld. If you saw the goa'ulds around you dropping off like flies, the first reaction would probably be to get as far away as possible, not to lock yourself in with them. I've never thought of the goa'uld as a self-sacrificing race. If the person was already affected, again the reaction would be to go get help.

Not to mention that if you were a goa'uld host and some device killed your symbiot, you'd probably start jumping for joy and then get out of there ASAP.


Perhaps the door was locked before the Goa'uld killers were released. Secret meetings and all that..

LMichelle
October 26th, 2004, 09:27 AM
MS did a great job in this one, but I wished the whole ep focused on him going "crazy." He got back to normal pretty quickly. I guess it was because they wanted to have Jack, Sam, and Janet be infected as well. However, it didn't last too long since Sam figured out the solution with five minutes left in the ep, as usual. :p

I felt so sorry for Daniel, especially when he said "I'm sorry I'm such a head case." :( Also when Sam gets upset when the team's all visiting him. Now was the blurry vision of Daniel's a side effect of the meds or because he didn't have his glasses on? When Daniel's without his glasses that usually means he's crazy or evil. Well, except in Beneath the Surface and Upgrades. :)

Lisa Michelle

SmartFox
March 16th, 2005, 11:03 AM
Glad we got to revisist Machello some. Atleast his inventions. There is so many plot lines that the writers just leave empty after 1 show. I don't know if they do this is a future ep but if they could get another one of those reader thingys and use it to kill some Goa'uld would be cool. SPOILERS RECKONING But considering most of them are dead now after Ba'al and then RepliCarter finish off the system lords i don't think they will.

RubyRed
March 22nd, 2005, 11:34 PM
I think this episode was great althought i didn't understand sam explanation. Daniel gave a award winning perfermane IMO. He was great i wanted to hug him cause i wanted to let him know that everything was going to be fine. ok now i think i'm going crazy. Daniel was so great in the white room it was expectacular. if he's as good in Lifeboat as he was in this episode and as good as you guys said he was then he definetly deserved that Leo award.

Perriman33
August 7th, 2005, 11:41 PM
This episode was a great part for michael shanks, they had me guessing right up to when we found out exactly what was happening. Although I was surprised they shoved him in the nuthouse straight away. Its a shame it was a throw-away episode, they never used any more info on michello's little blue friends (bit of a waste) and we never found out much about the 9 goa'uld who tried to take on the system lords. :( Still a good episode for building up the characters and we get to see the good Doctor in action. :)

Ascendant
August 28th, 2005, 04:18 AM
Hey, folks. My first post here (heehee!) :D

I thought this was a cool episode too. Daniel is kinda my favorite character and I've always had a phobia of psychiactric wards. It seems like there was some unexploited potential here - it was so scary in the beginning, then the scary stuff gets explained, taking away all the scaryness. One of Daniel's theories from the beginning could have been right, and it could have been a "Gua'ould ghosts terrorizing the base" episode. Just thinking about it makes me want to turn the lights on in here.

Another direction that the episode could have gone would be to have Daniel actually go crazy, and eventually need to be on meds. Then we could feel all broken up for him like Sam seems to, without that layer of episodic-sci-fi-induced disbelief that acts as a buffer between us and the characters' emotions.

But it was neat seeing Dr. Frasier go all nutty. We don't usually get to see her emote much. And Machiello was cool. I didn't realize that he was also played by Michael Shanks until the credits for this episode. Good age makeup.

Stricken
September 8th, 2005, 03:51 AM
Great Episode MS has a knack for carrying it really well and he did it here!!!!! Great storyline from TPTB more like this please!

1DanielForMe
September 8th, 2005, 04:55 AM
I used to love this episode. I still think it's very well done. I just got to realising that I hate seeing Daniel all crazy (It's wonderful when he gets back to normal), so I really can't watch it anymore.

walter_MacChevron
September 15th, 2005, 08:30 PM
Once again, Daniel gets the short end of the stick! Yeah, alright episode good acting by MS.

Snapdragon
December 1st, 2005, 02:43 AM
This has got to be one of my all time fave episodes! Tremendous acting my Michael and Amanada. The white room scenes were so real and emotional. It was great that once he figured out what was going on and was trying to convey this to the doctors he said "Why are you so quick to assume that I'm crazy?....It's cuz I'm kinda acting that way aren't I?" and [refering to his dead man talking him line "Yeah, I wouldn't believe that if I were you" Brill! Sam's teary reaction was heart wrenching. Love love love this ep!:)

Nerual
February 22nd, 2006, 01:35 PM
Hello, this is Eirual of Nerual.

I have to put a post into this thread for a very special reason...

Legacy was the very first SG-1 episode that I watched (At least 7 years ago) and I have been a fan ever since. It was the first SG-1 video I ever bought as well and if I hadn't have watched this then I probably never had seen the show.

Thank you Legacy for introducing me into the world of Jack O'Neill and his team.

:mckay: SUPPORT THE ROCKETT!!! :beckett:

Callista
February 22nd, 2006, 02:37 PM
Welcome, Nerual. I love Legacy, too! It's one of my top 10 favorites.

spookyalien
May 9th, 2006, 09:21 PM
I'm a new Stargate Fan(first post here), thanks to my boyfriend! So far this is my favorite episode ever. Daniel Jackson was my favorite character from the beginning and Michael Shanks did a wonderful acting job :) The scenes when O'Neil, Carter and Teal'C visited Daniel were so heartbreaking :( I wanted to hug him when he said that they took away his glasses because they dont want him to hurt himself with it...

captain jake
May 10th, 2006, 08:27 PM
welcome to the forum, ya I felt bad for daniel to.

Sheppard
July 19th, 2006, 11:35 PM
yeah it was said but i liked the cure they used

Harlan's Speechwriter
April 21st, 2007, 12:33 PM
Wow - there was some superb acting here, especially by MS. I found myself getting teary-eyed, especially at that sad little line when he said they'd taken his glasses away in case he tried to hurt himself with them.

I found this to be an extremely powerful episode, intense and totally engaging. The team has become very strong and this really shone through.

IMHO, it's good to see a programme brave enough to represent mental illness and present it so sensitively. Yes, in this case they were very fortunate and recovered relatively easily, but it made me think about the people in the real world who are affected by these issues every day.

garhkal
April 22nd, 2007, 10:29 AM
Yup. This is up there in my roster of great acting by ms..

Harlan's Speechwriter
April 22nd, 2007, 01:07 PM
Yup. This is up there in my roster of great acting by ms..

I just can't get over how good the acting was, especially MS, but the cast as a whole. It must have been an exhausting episode for them to make.

Chaka's_Mum
April 24th, 2007, 07:50 AM
Yup. This is up there in my roster of great acting by ms..

And there are so many to choose from! Yep. This one has to go right at the top of the heap for quality of acting, particularly from MS. But it wouldn't be fair not to mention Teryl for her performance as Janet tries to talk Sam through the cure when she is in the throes of Machello-induced hallucinations herself.

Fantastic stuff.

Harlan's Speechwriter
April 24th, 2007, 10:12 AM
And there are so many to choose from! Yep. This one has to go right at the top of the heap for quality of acting, particularly from MS. But it wouldn't be fair not to mention Teryl for her performance as Janet tries to talk Sam through the cure when she is in the throes of Machello-induced hallucinations herself.

Fantastic stuff.

Yes, it was a superb team effort all round. MS shone, but it was the reactions of the others which helped him to come accross. And Teryl did a great job in her own right, too.

Crichiel
February 2nd, 2008, 08:10 PM
Been going through all the season 3 threads and giving my two cents in on each because this is my favourite season out of all 10,:)and I am always bursting to tell people, whether they want to hear it or not, why I love it so. I have been putting off my thoughts on this one and Forever in a Day, however, because I don't think I can adequately describe my love of these two episodes. There are not enough superlatives in the thesaurus. So just to spare you all from my gushing: I LOVE EVERY FREAKING PART OF THIS EPISODE!!:)

Teddybrown
March 26th, 2008, 02:42 AM
It was a very good performance by MS
I liked da episode
I saw it yesterday for the first time
:lol:
Need to see Lifeboat now if hes good in that too

j7n
June 15th, 2008, 08:40 PM
How come in the end nobody apologized to Daniel Jackson for putting him into jail with a torture chamber?!

HelloVelo
June 22nd, 2008, 08:30 PM
I love Dr. Fraiser's freak out in this episode.

Rating: 5/10

Full Review: http://stargatesummer.blogspot.com/2008/06/legacy.html

captain jake
June 30th, 2008, 12:40 AM
Both Doctors Frasier and MacKenzie annoyed me greatly in this episode. They are working with people who go to different planets all the time and are constantly messing around with alien technology. So after a few days of some odd behavior close to that of schizophrenia they decide to commit Daniel? I mean what the crap, what if what he had was contagious and they just drove it right out the front door of the facility.

Idiots, complete idiots.


Been going through all the season 3 threads and giving my two cents in on each because this is my favourite season out of all 10,and I am always bursting to tell people, whether they want to hear it or not, why I love it so. I have been putting off my thoughts on this one and Forever in a Day, however, because I don't think I can adequately describe my love of these two episodes. There are not enough superlatives in the thesaurus. So just to spare you all from my gushing: I LOVE EVERY FREAKING PART OF THIS EPISODE!!

I like season 3 as well, however I don't think it's my favorite. Both "Legacy" and "Forever In A Day" are good episodes though once again I don't share your enthusiasm for these individual episodes. I think the only part of Stargate that I like that much is the idea of all the episodes as a whole.


How come in the end nobody apologized to Daniel Jackson for putting him into jail with a torture chamber?!

"Torture Chamber"? There was no torture chamber and I think they did apologize for not trusting him...

L E E
July 8th, 2008, 05:29 AM
Both Doctors Frasier and MacKenzie annoyed me greatly in this episode. They are working with people who go to different planets all the time and are constantly messing around with alien technology. So after a few days of some odd behavior close to that of schizophrenia they decide to commit Daniel? I mean what the crap, what if what he had was contagious and they just drove it right out the front door of the facility.

Idiots, complete idiots.


I agree. It did annoy me that they were very quick to commit Daniel.

Machello is one hell of an inventor of anti-goauld devices. His death is such a loss. How come the Tokra did not contact him?

This latest invention of his is quite icky especially when it is pouring out of the ears. Ewww. But, it can be used to kill the symbiote and the host will survive, right?

pritnep
August 15th, 2008, 04:24 AM
Both Doctors Frasier and MacKenzie annoyed me greatly in this episode. They are working with people who go to different planets all the time and are constantly messing around with alien technology. So after a few days of some odd behavior close to that of schizophrenia they decide to commit Daniel? I mean what the crap, what if what he had was contagious and they just drove it right out the front door of the facility.


A pretty dark episode for Stargate, but I have to say the idea and episode was pretty good.

I liked how their are groups like Linvris, lesser league of Goa'uld who challenge the System Lords. Because from everything we have learn't about the Goa'uld it makes perfect sense to have a groups fighting against eachother for power.

Ma'chello certainly did have a lot of technology, I hope the people at Area 51 are getting stuck into it because some of that technology maybe useful. I mean this could be exactly what Daniel needs for Sha're to be freed from her Goa'uld. L E E I assume the Tok'ra never meant with Ma'chello because he was in hiding from the System Lords so they probably didn't know where he was.

Pretty good acting by Michael Shanks.

I have to agree with captain jake on that point to, seemed to rushed.

Black_Sheep
September 2nd, 2008, 07:59 AM
I agree totally with pritnep here. I also think that they should go back to Ma'chello's planet and take a second look at his weapons and stuff

L E E
September 28th, 2008, 01:42 AM
I agree totally with pritnep here. I also think that they should go back to Ma'chello's planet and take a second look at his weapons and stuff

They probably did. Off camera. I mean, they have a cataloque of stuff from Machello's planet so, IMO, Area 51 must be having a field day.

RononXSpecialist
November 11th, 2008, 10:17 AM
Nice acting by Michael Shanks,
Machello's awsome :D Him and his Goa'uld killing inventions, We still never figured out if Sam Decoded his language.

Captain-Peregrine
January 29th, 2009, 05:48 PM
I love all Daniel-centric episodes and I believe this one is one of the best. Micheal Shanks is an awesome actor and he really proves it in episodes like this one and others like Lifeboat and Absolute Power. He does crazy surprisingly well.

Plus I think season 3 is really when SG-1 really got off the ground. Seasons one and two had good episodes, but season 3 had so many AMAZING episodes that really helped kickstart SG-1.

gateship15
January 30th, 2009, 02:17 AM
this was a great episode i love how they figured out what was wrong and fix it

Pic
January 30th, 2009, 11:47 AM
I like that they don't completely abandon prior story lines like Ma'chello. I also like that we've seen a bit of the structure of the system lords and that they're not as all-powerful as they seemed in season 1. Last episode had the 3 representatives, Yu, Nirti and Cronos (?) and now we hear about a minor sect of Goa'ulds who opposed the system lords as well.

I'm a Michael Shanks fan, but I'm not necessarily gushing over his performance in this episode. It was good, but not "amazing". Just my opinion. I'm kind of curious why everyone immediately thought he was having a nervous breakdown. Other than plot device.

And if going crazy makes Janet start taking off her shirt... well that was an interesting scene.

Cello
February 1st, 2009, 09:24 PM
Ok I just watched this episode again (coz it's such a goody), but this time around I've got a few issues with it.

It leaves a lot of unanswered questions, so if anyone can tell me the answers, I'll be very grateful.

1. Which of the Linvers used a Ribbon device to lock the secret chamber from the inside and why? It doesn't seem very goa'uld like to try to stop a 'plague', for want of a better word, from spreading to other Goa'uld. If you saw the goa'ulds around you dropping off like flies, the first reaction would probably be to get as far away as possible, not to lock yourself in with them. I've never thought of the goa'uld as a self-sacrificing race. If the person was already affected, again the reaction would be to go get help.
Maybe the Linver population was very low, and they knew it. So it would have been in their interest to stop the "plague" by whatever means necessary. They might not have known that it wasn't a communicable disease.


Not to mention that if you were a goa'uld host and some device killed your symbiot, you'd probably start jumping for joy and then get out of there ASAP.
Maybe that particular race of hosts don't survive the assassination of their symbiotes. Ma'chello was human, so maybe his devices were only safe for humans to use.


Does this mean the SGC has 120 goa'uld killing critters and never tried to use them?
They never tried to use them? Damn!

* * * *

Now for my own beef with the SG-1 series.

Stargate Command is always under pressure to find useful technology in order to justify its multi-billion dollar annual budget. So why don't they analyze the staff weapons and zat guns that they are constantly picking up? The power storage device in a staff weapon would by itself probably revolutionize earthly technology: imagine cars that are powered by nearly inexhaustible batteries. We should be cloning the staff weapons and manufacturing them in volume. Why aren't all the SG-1 people armed to the teeth with staffs and zats?

Maybe that happens later in the series. I'm a newbie who's watching the SG-1 series for the first time, starting from Season 1. So I have no idea whether Earth's technology will improve in later seasons. But there's no evidence of that so far in Season 3, and I'm a bit irked.

Butlersgate
February 23rd, 2009, 02:31 PM
i hate that other doctor because he just dismissed everything janet was saying and then is like, err actually this could work, im an idiot. *whack but great episode :D

HPMom
March 2nd, 2009, 06:19 PM
Been going through all the season 3 threads and giving my two cents in on each because this is my favourite season out of all 10,:)and I am always bursting to tell people, whether they want to hear it or not, why I love it so. I have been putting off my thoughts on this one and Forever in a Day, however, because I don't think I can adequately describe my love of these two episodes. There are not enough superlatives in the thesaurus. So just to spare you all from my gushing: I LOVE EVERY FREAKING PART OF THIS EPISODE!!:)

I think this is a great episode too. MS was superb. I love how it showed the relationship between Jack and Daniel. Jack was hanging out with Daniel in his time of need playing chess and cards when there was probably a million other things he could be doing, but he stayed to support Daniel. It's scenes like that mixed with the humorous exchanges that make the relationship between those characters so awesome!

I also loved Jack's quote when he walked into the conference room after Daniel's first psychotic break, "I'm not going to enjoy this, am I?"

The Stig
April 24th, 2009, 03:12 PM
i really liked this episode. Michael shanks was amazing in this ep. Its about time we get to see someone go nuts,

Ulkesh47
April 24th, 2009, 03:19 PM
Both Doctors Frasier and MacKenzie annoyed me greatly in this episode.
Don't forget Warner. He was an idiot in this episode as well.

And then cue the infamous "I see where you're going, I see where you're going" speech. At least it's infamous to me... ;)

Durbelethwen
April 30th, 2009, 10:48 AM
Something I noticed in this episode was Daniel's explanation for his hallucinations. He thought that the Goa'uld had turned into energy but he did not know how but he thought Sam would know. This could possibly be foreshadowing of the concept of Ascension. It was formally introduced 16 episodes later in the same season.

drewandian
June 12th, 2009, 12:17 PM
I've recently started rewatching season 3 and can't believe that I had forgotten how good this season was, imo. It's my favorite season for a lot of different reasons, Legacy being on of them.

The actors on Stargate SG1 are phenomenal - ESP in this episode! I wanted to cry for Daniel (MS was terrific), I loved the interactions b/c Jack and Daniel throughout the ep(I wish we could see more of this - their friendship is unique and I love it!), and it was great to see TR have the opportunity to be more than the brainy CMO that always manages to find the answer.




i hate that other doctor because he just dismissed everything janet was saying and then is like, err actually this could work, im an idiot. *whack but great episode :D

I agree! Dr Warner totally ticked me off! All "no no that won't work....oops wait, i lied...that's a great idea" WHATEVER! grrrrr

All in all, though, I LOVE this episode!

mrscopterdoc
March 2nd, 2010, 10:09 PM
This was a good episode for Daniel. It was hard to see him that way though. All in all I liked this one.

Girlbot
June 23rd, 2010, 08:43 AM
Not one of my favorite eps. Didn't really like the Daniel insane thing.

maneth
August 13th, 2010, 11:30 AM
MS was wonderful in this one, and I'm glad we got to see Ma'chello again, even if he was only a delusion.

rushy
October 17th, 2010, 04:10 AM
MS is awesome, but nothing can beat Christopher Lee

Jayq
January 26th, 2011, 08:31 PM
Good ep my fav bit was this line by Daniel made me laff

"Ah good point, I wouldnt buy that either if I were you."

Noxbait
February 2nd, 2011, 04:10 PM
Legacy
I like how everyone thinks that the Retu are responsible for anything that occurs when there's something "Invisible" taking place. The poor Retu, always blamed when no one sees what happens, rough life! : )

I'm sorry, with all the utter insanity that has taken place in the past two years in these people's lives...I really think it's nuts that no one thought outside the box on what was going on with Daniel. I do love the interaction b/t Daniel and Jack in the infirmary. oops, Daniel was actually the one who 1st voiced the idea of him having a nervous breakdown. But STILL!!! Give me a break, with all the crazy crap they've gone through...why wasn't there more asking "what crazy alien thing is happening now?" Go Jack for standing up for him in the 1st briefing. Waaay too quick to slap a diagnosis on the situation. and just waaaaay to ridiculously quick to send him to Mackenzie.

Ok, I think that this would've made a much better post-FIAD episode. Then it would have fit better as a potential nervous breakdown after losing Sha're. As it stands, I have to just take it with a deep sigh of "whatever" and make whatever concessions I can to pretend it all makes sense. : )

I like the schene with the guys playing chess. It was a nice character part. I think when they started to fight, it was very remnicient of Need when they fight in the storeroom. I think that might be why Daniel was so quick to say "I'm sorry." probably had a mini-flashback to that.

Thank goodness Jack was thinking about the Limvris and kept harping on that idea. If he hadn't, probably nothing would've come of it, even once Teal'c got sick.

I have to say I don't hate Mckenzie, don't particularly like him. : ) He's not a villian persay, but I wouldn't doubt that He's on the NID payroll. I'm just very glad that he was reasonable enough to actually listen to Daniel. I have to give him credit for that. It was obvious to even an idiot that there was a big difference b/t Daniel earlier and after the creature went into Teal'c. It was obvious that he was just hopped up on drugs. Wow...to have enough fight in him to demand to see Jack through the muddle! And I love how Jack immediately got up and went when Hammond told him Mackenzie had called.

It would've been cool to know more about these "minor league goa'ulds." Wow...good for Jack picking up on the page turning device picture from the Area 51 records!

I like seeing Dr. Warner...even though Sam+Janet save the day! Awww, poor Janet gets to suffer from an alien monster and Janet gets to play MD! ; ) I'm glad that Warner finally got on the same page as Janet, though it took him awhile! Ewww..thats just gross when those Goa'uld killers come out of their ears!

AtlantisRules!!!
February 11th, 2011, 08:19 PM
I'm sure someone has mentioned it here, but I must mention it...:P right before opening sequence, dead guy eyelid twitch ^^

themyst
April 14th, 2011, 08:26 PM
I just watched this episode tonight and really liked it. I especially thought Michael Shanks gave an A+ performance with the psychological breakdown (which ... wasn't mental, as it turns out).

Lunaeclipse
April 14th, 2011, 09:13 PM
I just watched this episode tonight and really liked it. I especially thought Michael Shanks gave an A+ performance with the psychological breakdown (which ... wasn't mental, as it turns out).

Yep, you're not really crazy if you know you sound crazy... no he really did seem crazy... When I watched it I thought that the others could've at least given him the benefit of the doubt near the start. I mean given what they had all seen since they first went into the Stargate...

MS did an excellent job sounding crazy in Lifeboat as well... :)

themyst
April 15th, 2011, 08:00 AM
lol - I know ... that's the funny thing about this show - the characters are often quick to pooh-pooh strange occurrences, but given what they've already gone through and seen - I don't know why you'd discredit any strange happening!

Noxbait
April 15th, 2011, 03:20 PM
I totally agree! This is season 3 after all, the nutty-ness that they had all gone through up to this point should have made them much more willing to guess "alien intervention" ect. ; )
That is something that does occasionally bug me...but I try to rationalize it one way or another till I'm satisfied. Nothing works great, though. : ) I think the writers maybe ran out of ideas, or had this great idea, but just didn't get it carried out so well. Have you seen "the Light"? IMHO that was handled much better. same sort of situation (sort of) but it just fit better within the context of "what we already know" about the universe. : ) Legacy could have been handled better I think.

themyst
April 15th, 2011, 03:28 PM
I totally agree! This is season 3 after all, the nutty-ness that they had all gone through up to this point should have made them much more willing to guess "alien intervention" ect. ; )
That is something that does occasionally bug me...but I try to rationalize it one way or another till I'm satisfied. Nothing works great, though. : ) I think the writers maybe ran out of ideas, or had this great idea, but just didn't get it carried out so well. Have you seen "the Light"? IMHO that was handled much better. same sort of situation (sort of) but it just fit better within the context of "what we already know" about the universe. : ) Legacy could have been handled better I think.

Nope, I'm only on Season 3 of SG-1. Looks like I have something to look forward to!

Noxbait
April 15th, 2011, 03:37 PM
Cool! well, enjoy the ride! Welcome to SG!

DutchCarterLover
July 9th, 2011, 02:35 PM
Michael Shanks, did a very well acting job in this episode. Him in the nuthouse being sane kinda remind me about one flew over the cuckoo' s nest. I wanted to punch that doctor in the face for putting more drugs into him. I mean come on Machello said he was cured from the Goa'uld :D

garhkal
July 16th, 2011, 12:48 PM
Do we know if they ever went back to Michello's lab?

Noxbait
July 16th, 2011, 01:44 PM
Do we know if they ever went back to Michello's lab?

I don't think so. Could have been an interesting premise, though. : ) (I think that Daniel would have wanted to be very, very far far away from anything remotely related to Ma'chello.) :danielanime07:

Noxbait
July 16th, 2011, 01:45 PM
Do we know if they ever went back to Michello's lab?

I don't think so. Could have been an interesting premise, though. : ) (I think that Daniel would have wanted to be very, very far far away from anything remotely related to Ma'chello.) :danielanime07:

discodiva
July 17th, 2011, 12:03 PM
Just watched Legacy again on Sky 2 Sunday catch up.....Michael Shanks was brilliant in this episode....great to watch it again...:daniel:

liminoid
September 20th, 2011, 10:17 AM
Ahh the early seasons of SG-1. When the writers would get together and ask one another, what low budget movie cliche should this week's episode focus on? Ghosts! Mummified ghosts. The kind that normally hang around haunted houses! Let's add in a "Daniel's going crazy and only he can see them" subplot. Great! We'll give him schizophrenia. What kind of schizophrenia? Hmm how about "textbook schizophrenia"? That's a good one! Wait Jack does not "ascribe" to the theory that gate travel causes textbook schizophrenia. What then could it be. Stay tuned for the ghoulish conclusion...

LeftHandedGuitarist
October 3rd, 2011, 01:07 AM
This one's pretty decent, but falls apart a bit as it continues. The first half with Daniel going crazy is great to watch, Michael Shanks does a very good job and actually plays it more restrained than I expected (or remembered). I particularly like the whole scene with him and Jack playing chess/cards and Daniel trying to stay calm despite what he is seeing.

The thing is, as an audience we know he's not really going crazy, we've been given too many clues that something has actually affected him. Therefore, it makes for an aggravating watch as we see his friends disbelieving him and Dr Mackenzie not really giving weight to anything he says. Everyone should know that these guys deal with alien things on a daily basis and should give that factor serious consideration.

The diagnosis of Daniel also does seem very quick. He has a few hallucinations and suddenly that means he must be schizophrenic, and a little bit later he's in a padded room. In terms of doctor stuff though, I did like the fact that this episode brings together all three of our previously established doctor characters (Frasier, Warner, Mackenzie). Warner and Mackenzie really don't come off very well though; Mackenzie is infuriating and Warner is made to look stupid (and a little arrogant).

After Daniel is cured the episode takes a turn for the worse, I thought. Jack, Sam and Janet trapped in the room going nuts just isn't handled well, and there was an opportunity to do much more with it. I didn't feel any tension.

- Sam is trying to get help from Doc Frasier in separating the blood, and Janet is clearly having a difficult time with it. Why didn't Sam just ask for some complete instructions early on when Janet was a bit more with it, instead of waiting for the centrifuge to finish before going up to her and asking what to do next?

- Nice to see Machello again, but I wish had been revisited in a bigger way.

- Loved Jack's comment about putting a warning sign at the bottom of the gate.

- The Reetou are mentioned AGAIN. They really wanted to bring them back into the show, didn't they? A real shame it never happened.

RATING: 6 out of 10

Krisz
October 5th, 2011, 02:59 PM
Daniel stole the show in this episode with his gradual slide into insanity!

I have to agree that it did fall apart a bit as it when on LHG. Benefit of the doubt should have been given as far as the possibility of alien influences are concerned. That was disregarded a little too quickly with Daniel being carted off to the padded cell!

The dead Linvris set up a nice creepy atmosphere to start with and how they keep turning up in Daniel's hallucinations. That really creeped me out when I first watched this episode. Planting a Goa'uld killing thing in an every day device used by the Goa'uld was a neat idea, that Machello was a pretty resourceful enemy of theirs!

An event horizon in a closet, still one of the more memorable weird images in Stargate for me! Now we know why things we thought we put in our closets never seem to be in there when we want them!!! :p

Jae'a
October 6th, 2011, 04:17 AM
My LiveJournal post (http://jo-r-lee.livejournal.com/13376.html)
Always love this one. I always get a chill when Daniel sees one of those corpses behind the others when they visit him.. :P

NowIWillDestroyAbydos
October 6th, 2011, 04:51 PM
Let's See, an average episode of SG-1.

Daniel got some stuff in his body that made him go nuts. Then, Jack and Janet went nuts, but only Sam could save the day.

Tomorrow, I haven't seen that episode in a while, so I can't tell you what happens.

Matt G
October 7th, 2011, 04:35 PM
5pm and another ep of SG1...(the other one I had on VHS for a bit)

1. Rewatching this ep actually had be flashing back to the S7 ep

Lifeboat

2. First time I'd actually notied that thing move through Daniel.

3. Kept waiting for the thing to move out of Teal'c.

4. Had forgotten about Warner.

Solid enough ep.

jelgate
October 8th, 2011, 10:25 PM
If you seen one Daniel go crazy episode you have seen them all. I probably liked it more the first time around but being a rewatch I have seen him go crazy enough the first half really bores me. I was more interested in the second half trying to figure out how Machello's machine work and the innovation that came with using Sam's blood. I'll excuse the mecial inaccuracies just because it was fun to watch and show why Fraiser is smarter then Warner.

dtheories
October 9th, 2011, 12:33 PM
Daniel fan that I am, I watch this ep a lot, though never before in order. I'd forgotten how early in the season this arrived and how close to Holiday.

There's some interesting medical knowledge examined in this ep that may affect how teams are prepared and approved for 'gate travel in future. Not knowing how the 'gate affects humans without symbiotes who go through the 'gate regularly was a very good question. A medical team in a military environment might actually be less inclined to see beyond the confines of known practices when judging the cause of a medical emergency. Daniel unconscious repeated times would certainly qualify as medical emergency!

Daniel though appears to be the only one using science, his translation of "to enter by infiltration," to comprehend what may have occurred to the Linvus. He's the one bringing the focus back to them over and over till it registers that there might be another factor involved, namely Ma'chello.

The writers as usual take a story about a serious condition and bring some really funny humor to the table; Jack playing with the IV bag, Carter yelling, "C'mon! There's gotta be a way! We've got all this stuff!"

And in the end, the music swells and all is right with SG-1 while Michael Shanks gives another stellar performance.

Starscape91
October 10th, 2011, 12:03 PM
Another episode where Daniel goes crazy.

SaraBahama
October 10th, 2011, 07:01 PM
As mentioned by others: with everything they have encountered, I would expect that they would be looking at possible alien influence to explain Daniel's going slowly insane rather than immediately believing he's developed a terrestrial psychotic disorder. Especially his team -they seem too ready to accept the medical explaination.

Michael Shanks did a wonderful job.

It's easy to see why the doctors were not inclined to believe Daniel when the little bug left his system, since he had been making such crazy claims before -it just sounded like part of his previous rant.

Fave O'Neill Quote: "I'd like to apologize in advance for anything I may say, or do, that could be construed as offensive, as I slowly go NUTS!"

I liked them using the Machello character again.

I don't mind the eps that are less action and more intrigue. I think the variety keeps it interesting.

Lieutenant Sparrow
October 15th, 2011, 05:09 AM
Michael Shanks showing off his great acting. Easily one of my favourite actors. He's also the first Stargate star I have had my photo taken with. Getting a photo with Amanda in a couple of weeks :)

Great of them to reuse Machello even if it was such a small mention.

Love Jacks quote as well.

Nut_ty
October 24th, 2011, 10:48 PM
Michael Shanks showing off his great acting. Easily one of my favourite actors. He's also the first Stargate star I have had my photo taken with. Getting a photo with Amanda in a couple of weeks :)


Michael Shanks is awesome! This is an episode that highlights his considerable talents. I got my picture taken with him last year--he's a sweet and charming guy—very easy to talk with. I’m going to have my picture taken with Christopher Judge in a few weeks.

I think that Dr. Fraiser doesn’t think that Daniel is under the influence a an alien entity for 2 reasons: No one else from the team is having the same problem, and, as shown when Teal’c gets sick, the organisms do not show in any tests.

lostmonkey70
October 25th, 2011, 03:37 PM
Pretty average episode, I do have to comment on the horribly cgi'd in test tube that "caught" the goa'uld killer bug that came out of Teal'c.

garhkal
November 4th, 2011, 01:27 PM
Another episode where Daniel goes crazy.

Lets see. We had this, lifeboat and need... Any others?

Seaboe Muffinchucker
November 4th, 2011, 08:14 PM
Lets see. We had this, lifeboat and need... Any others?
What, three isn't enough?

Seaboe

garhkal
November 11th, 2011, 02:10 PM
[email protected]!

muziqaz
December 6th, 2011, 08:12 AM
Quite interesting episode. Michael played his part very good. Enjoyed it.

Dimes
December 23rd, 2011, 03:57 PM
Okay episode.
Not good, but not bad.

Darian
July 3rd, 2012, 12:29 AM
This episode was the first episode of Stargate I saw it makes me so happy when ever I watch it

rushy
July 11th, 2012, 04:49 AM
Lets see. We had this, lifeboat and need... Any others?

The Light, Absolute Power, Need, The Shroud(sort of)...

Can't remember the rest.

rushy
July 11th, 2012, 04:50 AM
As for the episode, I'm surprised no one thought that some alien device was affecting him. Also, Dr. MacKenzie did look kinda familiar.

Sam-n-Jack-in-<3
July 26th, 2012, 12:58 PM
This episode freaked me out to no end when I was younger...still gives me the willies, with those semi-mummified Goa'ulds and the translucent fish bait under the skin. :S YUCK!

Michael Shanks is DEFINITELY an amazing actor. Why hasn't he won a Golden Globe yet???

Best line:
:jack: "Please excuse anything I say or do as I slowly go NUTS!!!!"

garhkal
July 29th, 2012, 03:45 PM
That and the immagry of those 'slugs' worming their way under everyone's skin made mine crawl...

Major Clanger
January 6th, 2013, 04:52 AM
apart from the fact that they were very fast to stick Daniel in that (far far too big) padded cell not a bad ep.
Didn't like all the negativity from Dr Werner though - they make Janet into this brilliant doctor and nobody else can do anything which irritates.

But - nice ep. Some good acting, especially from Michael Shanks.

garhkal
January 9th, 2013, 03:55 PM
Prob cause of all the stuff up to now that HAS happened to daniel, they may have thought he finally cracked.. That and it was before they realized what was truely wrong.

Falcon Horus
June 3rd, 2013, 02:14 PM
Daniel getting whumped and Michael kicking some serious acting butt. I love this episode.
And on top of that Janet shares in the whump - makes me a happy whump fangirl. :p

Anyway...

Let's start with a random fun fact: when they are in the Linvris room at the very beginning right before the opening credits (which I have to say start to annoy me as much as the mask did, and dare I say I may just prefer the Ra-mask over these now :p) someone, I think Carter, shines their light on one of the dead guys... and he blinks. His eyelids move. :p

Some nasty buggers Machello invented there. i'd completely forgotten how the jello-slugs were his to begin with.

Oh, and when they're in the briefing room discussing Daniel, Janet looks a might uncomfortable looking all apologetic at SG1. :p

Not a fan of McKenzie or Warner... though the latter does come through in the end. I can't warm up to Warner though. *shrug*

kirsten187
August 28th, 2014, 11:37 AM
apart from the fact that they were very fast to stick Daniel in that (far far too big) padded cell not a bad ep.
Didn't like all the negativity from Dr Werner though - they make Janet into this brilliant doctor and nobody else can do anything which irritates.

But - nice ep. Some good acting, especially from Michael Shanks.

I love the fact that Janet gets the answer even though she's going crazy and Warner's all "no you can't do that" but it works anyway. Makes me love her even more!

Janet Fraiser
April 14th, 2015, 02:14 AM
How many times has Daniel been in the infirmary so far?

Warner is just a tad annoying in this one. Janet, Jack, and Sam are trapped in that room, Janet is struggling to speak and to help Sam, and Warner still keeps (almost condescendingly) dismissing what she's saying even though he has no idea what to do. I'm glad Sam listens to her and proves that Janet had the solution all along.

Also... those slugs dripping out of their ears make me shiver. Why, oh, why do they have to keep poking them once they're dead? ;p


Let's start with a random fun fact: when they are in the Linvris room at the very beginning right before the opening credits (which I have to say start to annoy me as much as the mask did, and dare I say I may just prefer the Ra-mask over these now :p) someone, I think Carter, shines their light on one of the dead guys... and he blinks. His eyelids move. :p

I remember one of the dead bodies on Hanka moving as SG-1 passed by. Freaked me out a bit.


I love the fact that Janet gets the answer even though she's going crazy and Warner's all "no you can't do that" but it works anyway. Makes me love her even more!

Exactly.

garhkal
April 14th, 2015, 11:37 PM
To be honest, i don't know how many times danny has been in the infirmary. Though i would think it has not been as many as jack.

Janet Fraiser
April 15th, 2015, 08:59 PM
To be honest, i don't know how many times danny has been in the infirmary. Though i would think it has not been as many as jack.

I should have started keeping track when I began my re-watch.

...No, really, I'm grabbing a notepad now. Otherwise it's going to bug me.

garhkal
April 15th, 2015, 11:59 PM
Hopefully you are not TOO far into the re-watch that you can't restart it!

kirsten187
April 23rd, 2015, 01:12 PM
Warner annoys me too in this episode.....Janet knows what she's talking about :)

Seaboe Muffinchucker
April 29th, 2015, 11:19 AM
I hate the way that this show often dumbs down a recurring character to make the plot work. They do it all the time. At least Warner's there--in later seasons Janet must work 24/7 because you don't see any other doctors.

Seaboe

Lunaeclipse
April 29th, 2015, 11:23 AM
Janet's awesome though so when she shows up you know you won't be disappointed.

Janet Fraiser
April 29th, 2015, 11:38 AM
I hate the way that this show often dumbs down a recurring character to make the plot work. They do it all the time. At least Warner's there--in later seasons Janet must work 24/7 because you don't see any other doctors.

Seaboe

Lol yeah. It's like every medical drama that has the most brilliant doctors doing every single job because apparently no one else qualifies or exists. Stargate gets some very basic medical procedures wrong, so I'm not surprised they put Janet in there for everything.

But then I am always happy to see my favorite character, so.. :p


Janet's awesome though so when she shows up you know you won't be disappointed.

Heck yes!

Anja
September 11th, 2015, 05:36 AM
Nice ep, creepy but nice. Michael Shanks is very convincing - as great as in Lifeboat.

maneth
December 6th, 2015, 09:51 AM
Great ep for Daniel Jackson.

losernerdfriend
May 11th, 2016, 01:46 PM
Overall I think this is a strong character episode for MS. He does fantastic, but one of the major complaints I always have watching this ep is how quick all the doctors are to write him off as schizophrenic. That's not really how it goes right? Cause that seems like a quick conclusion after one psychotic episode... :/

Anja
May 16th, 2016, 05:03 AM
There is more in Stargate that isn't real - would have been boring to watch Jackson being examined again and again for many eps! It's exciting and well played, that's what counts.
IMO

Falcon Horus
January 21st, 2018, 04:42 AM
Since 2013 this episode has lost some of its appeal to me. I used to love it but now that I have a parent who has regular auditory and visual hallucinations (which break my heart every time cause there's nothing we can do about it -- side effect of Parkinson's Disease medication) I don't find it as likeable as I used to. It simply hits too close to home.

However, I will still say that Michael Shanks did an amazing job. I still like the idea Machello created to fight the Goa'uld and how he chose to distribute it. To learn of the Linvris, a minor league of System Lords, and to see Janet, while impaired by the little buggers, still able to come through with an idea to save all their asses.

What I'm still slightly annoyed by, however, is Richard Dean Anderson. When they're in the isolation chamber, infected as all hell, there's a wideshot of all three of them. Carter goes to check on O'Neill and Fraiser, and when the camera turns back with Rick in the background he seems to realise "Oh wait, we're still filming, I'm still supposed to look like I'm succumbing to the effects of the little buggers". For me, that moment felt a little jarring. Either intentional or unintentional, I didn't feel like Rick's acting was all in.

How would you rate SG-1's "Legacy?"

Excellent
Good
Fair
Poor
Terrible

Despite being uncomfortabel on the subject of mental illness, i'm still giving it an "Excellent" cause the story and acting certainly deserve that.

jelgate
January 24th, 2018, 07:02 PM
Like FH, I too have family members who have diseases with hallucinations. Honestly the comparasion didn't register with me until FH mentioned it. Mental illness episodes seem to go together with science fiction. Honestly I was more interested with the mechanical bugs than Shanks acting insane. I always wanted to see more of Machello's inventions and a little disappointed he is never mentioned again. While I loved the solution, Carter must be the worst medic ever and we learn why Fraiser is CMO and not Warner:P It is a fair.

Falcon Horus
January 28th, 2018, 03:51 PM
Jigsaw-time: Legacy (https://www.jigidi.com/solve.php?id=44F5JEHB)

The 3-episode quiz: Legacy, Learning Curve & Point Of View (https://goo.gl/forms/YZHSv85hcq4Rersh2)

jelgate
January 28th, 2018, 06:36 PM
Six minutes and 55 seconds.

I assume that is what FH looks like in the morning

StargateMillennium
January 28th, 2018, 06:39 PM
I wish more stargate eps did creepy horror tones like his one.

Falcon Horus
January 29th, 2018, 02:51 AM
I assume that is what FH looks like in the morning

Like you have no idea. I refrain from looking in the mirror every morning cause I'll just scare myself to death otherwise. :p


I wish more stargate eps did creepy horror tones like his one.

There's that Stargate Atlantis one -- they actuall did two.

jelgate
January 29th, 2018, 05:31 AM
Those episodes were terrible

Falcon Horus
February 4th, 2018, 05:30 AM
Not a good jigsaw run: 08:03

Manche
February 28th, 2018, 10:30 AM
The diagnosis of Daniel also does seem very quick. He has a few hallucinations and suddenly that means he must be schizophrenic, and a little bit later he's in a padded room. In terms of doctor stuff though, I did like the fact that this episode brings together all three of our previously established doctor characters (Frasier, Warner, Mackenzie). Warner and Mackenzie really don't come off very well though; Mackenzie is infuriating and Warner is made to look stupid (and a little arrogant).



I agree that Frasier and Mackenzie should definitely try to find another explanation of the Daniel's state. These people meet aliens every day, so they should have looked deeper and did not try to find the most common explanation for this. Who can predict what the SG teams can meet outside in the universe? But in the favour of MacKanzie, he was willing to believe Daniel in the end and he contacted the base, he had the full control over the situation, who could prevent him to shrugg off the Daniel's speech as a next symptome of his halluciation and dope him again?

And about Warner, I don't see him as arrogant at all. They were talking only about separation of this protein until this time and he did not realize that Janet was talking about something else. He certainly knows how the separation works and he knew that it isn't working this way. Maybe he was not too bright that he did not realize that Janet is talking about something else, but it doesn't make him arrogant.

Seaboe Muffinchucker
March 1st, 2018, 07:21 AM
I always liked Warner as the backup doctor (and surgeon, which Janet was not), and missed him when they stopped bringing him on the show.

Seaboe

Manche
March 1st, 2018, 10:35 AM
I always liked Warner as the backup doctor (and surgeon, which Janet was not), and missed him when they stopped bringing him on the show.

Seaboe

I liked him also and I have nothing against MacKanzie as well although sometimes it looked that they are not such good doctors as Janet. (Warner in this episode and when he falsely believed that he got the Goa'uld out of Kawalsky and MacKanzie was fooled by Teal'c that he doesn't believe in Apophis anymore.)

Who Knows
September 23rd, 2018, 09:36 PM
11.15

hedwig
September 24th, 2018, 06:31 PM
6:55 and 13/15

gnoel809
January 7th, 2020, 06:29 PM
When SG-1 was on Showtime, it seemed like every time they had a free weekend and I could see some episodes (I couldn't afford premium channels back then), Legacy was on. I saw it a few times, yet I still confuse it with Lifeboat. Both good episodes, but they're "Daniel has gone crazy" episodes.