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earck
June 8th, 2004, 08:45 AM
I was watching Between Two Fires the other day, and I was wondering what Narim's job was. He was not on the Curia, but he must have been some one fairly important as he was good friends with Omac and Travell trusted him to be a liason to SG-1 and I'm sure other important things.

My guess is that is an advisor to the Curia or something like that.

Mio
June 8th, 2004, 10:52 AM
Maybe he worked in the Curia Cafeteria?

Elwe Singollo
June 8th, 2004, 11:02 AM
I think he was like an advisor or something, im not sure...

Torley
June 8th, 2004, 11:13 AM
Whatever happened to Schroedinger? (I haven't seen the eps in question.)

bcmilco
June 8th, 2004, 11:52 AM
Narim used Schroedinger to "announce" his arrival in "Pretense" after that we never saw the cat again.

petzke_42
June 8th, 2004, 12:05 PM
His mission was to impregnate sam, and infiltrate the ...dang PG...I could sooo go on with some really funny stuff, but its all at LEAST R rated :P

Elwe Singollo
June 8th, 2004, 12:31 PM
Darn :rolleyes:

petzke_42
June 8th, 2004, 05:36 PM
Yeah..darn...

He seemed to be an ambassador-type to me.

Elwe Singollo
June 8th, 2004, 06:02 PM
To make sure that i'm talking about the right person, is he the person that helped out SG1 alot while on Tollana?

bcmilco
June 8th, 2004, 06:16 PM
To make sure that i'm talking about the right person, is he the person that helped out SG1 alot while on Tollana?

Yes he is...

I always thought of him as more the "public servent" type don't ask me why that's just what I think ;)

Elwe Singollo
June 8th, 2004, 06:19 PM
I don't know, he didn't seem scared of the high council people or anything, well not 'scared', but intimidated, there thats the word. But ur right, i think he was a public servant of some kind...

SGSlugger
June 8th, 2004, 06:22 PM
The equivalent of a public-relations dude? He did seem rather timid around the High Councillor, like he wasn't sure what he was supposed to be doing.

Andy867
June 8th, 2004, 06:46 PM
He was probably the liason between the Tollans and the SGC, since he established himself as a dignified man and gained the respect of the people at the SGC, including Carter. And I am sure that if this board was Rated R, that we could go into further detail on how he furthered the relationship, but that will have to just leave the minds twisting:)

Torley
June 8th, 2004, 10:33 PM
I liked Narim a lot! He was strangely suave. Too bad he's presumed dead... after Tollan kind of blew up and all.

Elwe Singollo
June 8th, 2004, 10:34 PM
Yah, so sad :( He was the only good one!

Torley
June 8th, 2004, 11:00 PM
I disliked Omac at first (BTW, his voice sounds strangely like Walton Simons' of Deus Ex fame, voiced by Tom Hall) because I found him very snooty and arrogant, but as time went on, I guess he had his reasons for being so "high and mighty". I mean even today in the real world, on Earth, there is still a tendency to thumb noses down on other cultures and try to interfere with their business (human rights aside).

Hey, on the bright side, at least we know the Tollan are accustomed to kissing too... although they're prolly all wiped out now, which is kind of sad... but ya know, maybe the Nox will stumble on a few bodies and bring 'em back to life ;)!

Elwe Singollo
June 8th, 2004, 11:03 PM
Unless all the bodies are incinerated :(

Andy867
June 9th, 2004, 04:12 AM
I doubt the Nox would be able to help after this much time had passed, because when Nefrayu was killed by Apophis in the episode, Freya suggested taking him to the others for help, but Antean/Quark said that there wasnt enough time. There must be a limit on how much time can pass before its too late to save someone. Plus, there was something in Armin Shimmerman's voice that made me think that the Nox had seen a lot more of War then what they let in on. Like he said something along the lines of

There will be no more bloodshed

and when he said it, he kind of had this anger over soimething that dealt with bloodshed and pain.

SGSlugger
June 9th, 2004, 11:07 AM
Assuming that since the Nox were once a member of the Alliance, they would have to have fast starships like the Ancients had. So if the Tollans sent a message to the Nox homeworld, and the Nox decided to reincarnate a few of them, they could just hop onboard their ships and pick a few up.

dorien
June 9th, 2004, 12:23 PM
What did Narim do? That's a really good question. I figured he was a science/engineer type since be was among the last people on the original Tollan homeworld and their job was to disable the gate. He always seemed to have a grasp of advanced science theories so maybe he was the Tollan version of Sam. :D

Bogopimp
June 9th, 2004, 02:18 PM
i reckon he was an ambassador, there not usually on the top level boards, but are well known by all!

Andy867
June 9th, 2004, 03:48 PM
Yea, the only problem with that Sam analogy is that he made Sam in some respects look like an apprentice. But in other ways, Sam is just as bright if not smarter.

Torley
June 9th, 2004, 04:54 PM
Yeah, just like Sam taught Thor and the Asgard a good lesson -- we can all stand to learn from each other.

That seems a common theme in the show, and I'm glad it addresses it so often and effectively without coming off as preachy. Also of note are the unassuming Nox!

Teal'c
June 10th, 2004, 11:41 AM
Didn't he say in Between Two Fires he was Omoc's assistant?

Andy867
June 10th, 2004, 01:35 PM
Possibly (dont have the DVD near me) but I do remember him saying though that he also watched over Omac's health.

Mr Prophet
June 10th, 2004, 02:05 PM
I'm not sure he 'did' anything. Frankly, the Tollan seem to just...be. He was a Tollan. I got the impression that they didn't really do specialism; he got on with the humans and had a thing for Sam so they put him on SGC liaison.

Torley
June 10th, 2004, 08:16 PM
Ha, use of gratuitious technology *walks through wall again, whoopee!*

Polyglot
June 22nd, 2004, 08:25 AM
Aw, who knows what he *did*.. But I really got a kick out of that part where he'd programmed his house to speak to him in Sam's voice.

Sam: "Ah.. is that my voice?"
Narim: "I'm sorry. I was hoping you wouldn't notice."

Too bad the Tollans are no more. I thought they were kind of fun. They sure had cool clothes..

Andy867
June 22nd, 2004, 12:17 PM
Well, we can only truly, honestly assume that they are no more. Even with wars, plagues, famine, there are always survivors.

Mr Prophet
June 22nd, 2004, 12:52 PM
On the other hand, planetary bombardment is pretty much out of human experience. The last time it happened on Earth the dominant species didn't do too well out of it.

Andy867
June 22nd, 2004, 03:08 PM
yea, but then, the meteor that struck the earth was roughly the size of Rhode Island

Mr Prophet
June 23rd, 2004, 10:25 AM
But it was one rock, rather than a sustained pounding with heavy plasma weapons. Given what we've seen Goa'uld scanners pick up, I can believe that a Tollana unprepared - as they were - could be annihiliated by Tanith's attack.

Andy867
June 23rd, 2004, 11:57 AM
Yes, but, like I have said, what if some of the tollans were smart enough to use their handheld devices that utilize the phase-shifting technology. The Goa'uld scanners might not be able to pick up the phased life scans.

Mr Prophet
June 23rd, 2004, 12:07 PM
Yes, but, like I have said, what if some of the tollans were smart enough to use their handheld devices that utilize the phase-shifting technology. The Goa'uld scanners might not be able to pick up the phased life scans.

Well, the security forces who would actually have the phase shift devices would be in the principle targets - government buildings and so forth - and thus be dead before they knew anything was coming. Moreover, Tanith could basically keep blasting away until all that was left was a smoking crater thirty miles across.

The real point is that the Tollan weren't prepared for war. They didn't expect attack; you could see that only a handful like Narim did anything but panic.

Anyway, the PTB seem pretty much done with the Tollan, so that's that. They will live on only in the realms of fan fiction.

Andy867
June 23rd, 2004, 03:18 PM
Well, Narim and others on the Curia, including Omac and the others found in Enigma seemed to possess the phase-shifting hand device. So there were probably a lot more that had them, but because they werent real "strategic thinkers", they probably didnt think to use them.

Roatbaum
June 23rd, 2004, 08:13 PM
I think all of the Tollen were politicians. Nareem was Omocks assistant, what was Omock? Why did he need an assistant? He (Nareem) just said things in a really great voice, was always calm and was wicked handsome. It sort of seemed like all the Tollen were just really soft spoken folks who did some vague technological thing.Why not.

Andy867
June 24th, 2004, 08:28 AM
Omac was some key role on the Curia, especially when it came to the Ion Cannons and such. He was also a part of the team that was left behind to destroy the stargate back on tollan. Narim was his assistant, and also caregiver to his personal affects, including his health implant. They all seem like politicians, which is why they were doomed to destruction. Thats what happens when you let politics, not the military and politics, run government.

Roatbaum
June 25th, 2004, 01:42 AM
I think it is always a mistake to let politicians and military run the government.

GateGipsy
June 25th, 2004, 01:46 AM
LOL if the politicians don't run the government then who does?

Torley
June 25th, 2004, 02:06 AM
Scientists and computer geeks, in a technocracy :)

Andy867
June 25th, 2004, 07:09 AM
so, what, only the coke-bottle glasses and only the smartest and geekiest can be the true ruler? sounds like a geek-tyrancy:)

Polyglot
June 25th, 2004, 09:19 AM
Reminds me of that one episode of "Sliders" where Quinn turns out to be "the Wizard" who basically runs everything. Kind of a "Wizard of Oz" thing.