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    Orii's Non-Corporeal Form (Possible Spoilers?)

    What if they are so in control of their form that they mold it to their own thought processes or maybe our own thoughts affect them?

    This goes along with my question above:

    Emotions/thoughts affecting particles is a theory. Based on observations of the dual properties of light particles, wave and particle forms, scientists have found that with different people observing these particles causes them to behave differently. One of the famous experiments involved a machine that "spat" out photons of light on to a photo-sensitive piece of material. The photons reacted differently depending on who was observing.

    We'd have to consider that the Orii/Ancients are made of an exotic energy that defies our brand of physics, but then again they do exist on a plane where natural law doesn't quite reach or do they?

    And where does the energy come from to allow for the ascension?


    Thoughts (no pun intended)?
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    All I know is they are non corporeal simply because they are a steal of The Pah Wraiths/Prophets from Deep Space Nine and they were-guess what-non corporeal. Why even hide the rip off!!

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      #3
      We don't really know enough about them to make them a rip-off of the Pah Wraiths/Prophets...I wouldn't say just being non-corporeal alone makes them a rip-off. I'm really curious to see if the Orii are equal in power to the Ancients or if they are somehow different...I'm somewhat afraid we will only get small pieces of information...ofcourse that can be fun.
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        #4
        Originally posted by Raicho
        And where does the energy come from to allow for the ascension?


        Thoughts (no pun intended)?
        I believe Oma said it was the energy of the spirit.
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          #5
          Originally posted by kesterr
          I believe Oma said it was the energy of the spirit.
          Aha!

          The energy of the spirit could be related to a person's will. The stronger the will the more powerful they become once ascended. This whole thing just gets better.
          "Throughout history the detection of design has been a rather intuitive business. As is said of pornography, we couldn’t define it, but we knew it when we saw it."
          -Michael Behe: Professor of Biochemistry-
          ---------------------------------------
          Teal'C: O'Neill, Narim said for the device to work we have to hold hands.
          Jack (long pause):......I know.

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            #6
            The part that writers have never figured out is that energy always travels as close to the speed of light that it can. In other words, energy beings could never stand still.
            Another thing to note is that energy is time dilated due to it traveling near the speed of light. A being of energy would effectively slow down to all observers, and appear to be frozen in time. A 24 hour period for them would equal about 6 minutes for you.
            In short, it would be almost impossible to interact with an energy being. It'd be like trying to have a conversation with a tree that moves at the speed of light.

            But to get back on subject, they aren't going to be fighting ascended beings in season 9, they're going to be fighting their mortal followers, which is basically the same thing as fighting the Goa'uld and Jaffa. They'll have better technology and come from another galaxy, but it's the same old recipe with substituted ingredients.
            Jarnin's Law of StarGate:

            1. As a StarGate discussion grows longer, the probability of someone mentioning the Furlings approaches one.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Jarnin

              But to get back on subject, they aren't going to be fighting ascended beings in season 9, they're going to be fighting their mortal followers, which is basically the same thing as fighting the Goa'uld and Jaffa. They'll have better technology and come from another galaxy, but it's the same old recipe with substituted ingredients.
              Your comment ties in with the fact we wouldn't be able to, as humans, destroy an Orii.

              As for the energy/time conundrum (I see your mention of relativity, sweet!) and the communicating via humans as a medium, I'd say there would have to be some kind otherworldly sense the Priors possessed. A few scientists/molecular biologists have suggested that the mind itself is metaphysical, transcending the material realm. Communication through thought energy might therefore allow the Orii to communicate with the Priors. They'd definitely have to be in the same dimension to comprehend each other.
              "Throughout history the detection of design has been a rather intuitive business. As is said of pornography, we couldn’t define it, but we knew it when we saw it."
              -Michael Behe: Professor of Biochemistry-
              ---------------------------------------
              Teal'C: O'Neill, Narim said for the device to work we have to hold hands.
              Jack (long pause):......I know.

              http://www.10thumbsup.com/

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                #8
                Originally posted by Raicho
                Your comment ties in with the fact we wouldn't be able to, as humans, destroy an Orii.

                As for the energy/time conundrum (I see your mention of relativity, sweet!) and the communicating via humans as a medium, I'd say there would have to be some kind otherworldly sense the Priors possessed.A few scientists/molecular biologists have suggested that the mind itself is metaphysical, transcending the material realm. Communication through thought energy might therefore allow the Orii to communicate with the Priors. They'd definitely have to be in the same dimension to comprehend each other.
                They wouldn't necessarily need 'otherworldly senses' to communicate with their Priors.
                All an Ori would have to do is take control of a Prior (like anubis did to his hosts in season 8), communicate with the Prior host, and then leave afterwards. No esp needed.
                Jarnin's Law of StarGate:

                1. As a StarGate discussion grows longer, the probability of someone mentioning the Furlings approaches one.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Jarnin
                  They wouldn't necessarily need 'otherworldly senses' to communicate with their Priors.
                  All an Ori would have to do is take control of a Prior (like anubis did to his hosts in season 8), communicate with the Prior host, and then leave afterwards. No esp needed.
                  That depends on the details. How, specifically, does a Orii take control of a Prior and not any other human? The writers will probably not explain it.
                  "Throughout history the detection of design has been a rather intuitive business. As is said of pornography, we couldn’t define it, but we knew it when we saw it."
                  -Michael Behe: Professor of Biochemistry-
                  ---------------------------------------
                  Teal'C: O'Neill, Narim said for the device to work we have to hold hands.
                  Jack (long pause):......I know.

                  http://www.10thumbsup.com/

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Raicho
                    That depends on the details. How, specifically, does a Orii take control of a Prior and not any other human? The writers will probably not explain it.
                    Are the Priors human? Humanoid? We don't know yet. We won't know until the writers tell us.
                    Jarnin's Law of StarGate:

                    1. As a StarGate discussion grows longer, the probability of someone mentioning the Furlings approaches one.

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