PuddleJumpers and the Gene

[aaobuttons]

I know that you have to have the Ancient gene to fly the puddlejumpers, but what about other things in them? Do you need the gene to open/close the door? What about the consoles? What works and what doesn't without the gene?

[Elite Anubis Guard]

well Ford can use the DHD and push buttons and we know he doesnt have the gene!

[newton4881]

you need the gene to fly it. Moebius part one, or 2 i believe o'neill walks up and co=nsole and it turns on

[_Owen_]

As Mckay said in Rising part 2 I think, "Some of thier technology still uses good old-fashioned push buttons." The gene is required to activate and use certain aspects of the Puddle Jumper, however, the door is controled using a push button, as well as several other pieces of technology. If you want to know if something does require the ancient gene just think, is it important enough, or a security risk? If it is then it probably requires the ancient gene.

Owen Macri

[immhotep]

yeah, the anceint gene is required only for the most important peice of tech, weapons for example, im geussing for security reason (wraith using them against the ancient for example). once the gene guy actevate a device its on permentantly and can be used by anyone, the control room for example, switched on when sheppard walked past then its used by everyone all the time.

[Purpleyin]

What I find interesting on the point of ATa being needed for systems would be what happened in The Defiant one

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If ATa is required for primary or important systems then why/how could Greg manage to get the shields up? Was it just a matte of him hacknig the systems like McKay had to do in 38 minutes to retract the pod drives? It's been bugging me how it was possible for a Wraith.

[KingofAquitaine]

I think its a plot device they really didnt think through

[immhotep]

yeah there are more unanwered questions reulting from that one episode than the rest of the series combined, that along with BIS are a the biggest mind bogglers and b) the two most intreging episodes.

[Atlantis1]

yeah there are more unanwered questions reulting from that one episode than the rest of the series combined, that along with BIS are a the biggest mind bogglers and b) the two most intreging episodes.

In the Rising part 2 Lt Ford told Sheppard he (Ford) should be the one to go looking for Col Sumner because Sheppard was the only one who had the gene and therefore the only one who could fly them back to Atlantis.

Spoiler:

The Wraith in The Defiant One could do some things with the ship but he could not turn it on so he couldn't fly it. Of course maybe he planned on using Sheppards hand like he said in the episode.

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[greytop]

In LFP,

Spoiler:

Teyla pushed a button to turn off the cloaking device and she doesn't have the gene.

In Hide and Seek

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Grodin told Weir that there are something that they needed someone with gene to activate the the source then any one can use it. And there was somethings that needed a person who had the gene to operate it.

So I believe that most people can operate the doors, the DHD, etc. but you need someone with the gene to fly the jumper.

This is my $.02 (American) worth.

[aaobuttons]

Thanks alot guys for all you're replies, you've helped alot. I was re-watching the episodes, and the question just kept bugging me.

[KingofAquitaine]

simple (and silly maybe) Question really: If only ancients were on atlantis, why would anything not need to gene to activate it, as they all had it they wudnt think anything of it

[Cassiopeia]

What I find interesting on the point of ATa being needed for systems would be what happened in The Defiant one

Spoiler:

If ATa is required for primary or important systems then why/how could Greg manage to get the shields up? Was it just a matte of him hacknig the systems like McKay had to do in 38 minutes to retract the pod drives? It's been bugging me how it was possible for a Wraith.

I think it IS a case of

Spoiler:

hacking into the systems. Sheppard says to McKay at the end that 'first he's (McKay) got to put the ship back together' and we see the Wraith doing a pretty thorough number on the ship's systems. If the cloaking device is classed as a 'secondary' system (and Teyla can activate that) then presumably the shields would be in roughly the same category.

But that makes me query whether with enough hacking it would be possible to fly the jumper without having the ATA gene? But maybe even if that IS possible the Ancients would consider the sheer inconvenience of having to take something apart big time just to get it working without the gene as being enough of a security safeguard anyway...?

[gallywag]

ford can now use the ancient tech because in lockdown or what eva it was called the ep with the lil deadly nanites they found that ppl with the gene it wouldnt affect so ford took the (aga) jab ancient gene activation

[Cassiopeia]

ford can now use the ancient tech because in lockdown or what eva it was called the ep with the lil deadly nanites they found that ppl with the gene it wouldnt affect so ford took the (aga) jab ancient gene activation

No he didn't.

Spoiler:

It was Hot Zone. He asked how long it would take for the ATA gene innoculation to kick in if he had it right then and Beckett said a few hours. Also there's only a 48% uptake of the gene. There was no mention in the episode or after, to my knowledge, that he has actually had the innoculation, and no guarantee if he did have it that it would actually take. It didn't take in Zelenka.