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    There needs to be at least a mini-series to close SGU out. Unless the people in power think that in the next 5 years there could be some kind of reboot... It's got to be a money maker using the franchise... if they can get around the Morons at MGM and sci-fi (not *sigh-fy)... and get a reboot going... I probably won't be around to see it.. if it takes any longer... my health will probably not hold that much longer...

    I would like to know if there is an 'end game story' that is hidden somewhere.. in some script in some vault... hopefully it isn't like LOST, where they made it up each week... (*snicker)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by retiredat44 View Post
    There needs to be at least a mini-series to close SGU out.
    SciFi cancelled the series due to poor ratings, why would they fund a miniseries? MGM passed on pitches for an SGU movie, why would they consider a miniseries?

    It's got to be a money maker using the franchise...
    Is that why SGU's ratings were in the toilet? SG-1 and SGA, sure, I'd agree. SGU, not so much. Quality is debatable, profitability, not so much.

    Quote Originally Posted by retiredat44 View Post
    if they can get around the Morons at MGM and sci-fi (not *sigh-fy)...
    Are you forgetting MGM's Chapter 11 Bankruptcy? Everything was already being sold and auctioned off while SGU was finishing production on the second season. The movie scripts and pitches were shelved, because the studio was no longer in a position to produce anything. SGU was cancelled by SciFi for poor ratings, and then all of that stuff was sold and auctioned to help the studio. Now that MGM is back in business, they will not be spending money on financially questionable productions. Stargate is currently a financially questionable production, and an expensive one at that given they'd have to spend the extra money to remake everything.

    Bottom line: it's just not financially viable.

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    my health will probably not hold that much longer...
    Please, don't speak like this. As a Christian and as someone with health issues myself, I find it beneficial to simply take life one day at a time. Try to focus on now and not the doom and gloom of down the road. No matter how dark the future is, you always have today, so try to make the best of it. If you're not allergic to cats... I've read that having a cat can help sickly people last longer and sometimes strengthen. It's something about the cat melting away the stress, allowing the body to fight harder to be stronger. Last, but not least, there's always God and Christ. I won't go into that as I recognize this is not a Christian message board. That said, PM me if you want to discuss that further.

    Quote Originally Posted by retiredat44 View Post
    I would like to know if there is an 'end game story' that is hidden somewhere.. in some script in some vault... hopefully it isn't like LOST, where they made it up each week... (*snicker)...
    It was said that SGU was the last planned series. I think the endgame story would have been SGU's ending, whatever that might have been. I wouldn't expect it to be revealed, though, as un-produced stories often get cannibalized, elements being recycled into other stories.

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    Not to mention that the writers were planning season 6 of Atlantis, as the first SGA movie was planned to be the beginning of SGA S6, and would be followed by 18 episodes, according to Malozzi himself (I believe I read that a long time ago on his blog). I've even read somewhere that the Wier's SGA actress was supposed to come back because they were going to bring her character back, but once they knew that they've been canned by the production, the actress declined to appear and they had to use another actress.

    Anyway, back on topic. Does SGU deserve a real edning? Yes. But the fact is that we're not getting it if MGM does not give its blessing to the producers and if the production doesn't manage to get everyone back to reprise their roles.

    Also, I agree with Snowman37. Whatever SGU's ending was going to be, it was going to be the end of the Stargate seires AS A WHOLE, because the SG-1 movie "Revolution", the SGA movie "Extinction" and probably a few more Atlantis movies AND SGU's ending were going to close all three series if they would happen. After that, there wouldn't be a fourth series, at least not by the same writing staff.

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    SGU MUST return in some way. The two seasons(minus some early episodes) were AWESOME. Episodes like Time, Justice, Space, Divided, Lost, Twin Destinies... are unbelievable. Not to mention that the series contains my favourite character of all time... Dr. Nicholas Rush.
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    Rush is my favorite SGU character too, next to Young and Chloe (she was HOT).

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    SGU is sadly just one of those shows cancelled before it's time. Many have met the same fate and SGU won't be the exception that comes back.

    The campaigns tried and failed, others clinged onto fantasy attempts of raising money to fund a movie (despite everyone pointing out the obvious legal ramifications and the extreme low chance of it being successful). A few even tried creating an animated series but it was canned due to copyright infringement. To be frank SGU hasn't been on life support for well over a year now. We're simply at the stage of taking flowers to it's gravestone and looking back at all the memories.

    As far as the franchise in general goes that's another story. Someone might come along one day and reboot it somewhere down the line, but again someone might not.

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    I suppose we just have to make our own seasons. I intend to start writing a fanfic season 3 soon.
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    Default Re: There needs to be at least a mini-series to close SGU out

    With the success of Once Upon A Time, it's unlikely Robert Carlyle with have the time for an SGU production.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rushy View Post
    I suppose we just have to make our own seasons. I intend to start writing a fanfic season 3 soon.
    I agree and I also plan to write my own fanfic SG-1 Revolution Movie, fanfic SGA Extinction movie and my own fanfic SGU seasons 3, 4 and 5. Who knows, maybe I even end up writing my own fanfic Stargate series and bring my own elements to it.

    I already made my SGU S3, S4, S5 and SGU movie desriptions, so it shouldn't be too hard for me.


    Quote Originally Posted by Inquisitor View Post
    With the success of Once Upon A Time, it's unlikely Robert Carlyle with have the time for an SGU production.
    They could just have his character have an accident in which Rush completely looses his face & voice and just bring another actor to play Rush and have the character pretend that his fave & voice was changed. Problem solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mnikolic View Post
    Not to mention that the writers were planning season 6 of Atlantis, as the first SGA movie was planned to be the beginning of SGA S6, and would be followed by 18 episodes, according to Malozzi himself (I believe I read that a long time ago on his blog).
    I've heard the same more or less. The movie script would have been the sixth season's opening two-parter. There were also numerous episode pitches release on Malozzi's blog. Though there is doubt on the web that a movie script was completed, I do buy that the sixth season was being mapped out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mnikolic View Post
    I've even read somewhere that the Wier's SGA actress was supposed to come back because they were going to bring her character back, but once they knew that they've been canned by the production, the actress declined to appear and they had to use another actress.
    "Ghost in the Machine" was the fifth episode. Cancellation wasn't announced until production on "Brain Storm," the sixteenth episode. Torri Higginson declined to appear in "Ghost in the Machine," because she didn't like the whole Is this really Elizabeth Weir? aspect of the story. In other words, she wanted to bring closure to her character. If the show had been renewed, and had Higginson liked the script, I'm sure the Weir storyline would have continued. If I remember right, the sixth season Weir episode would have found the original, human Weir on ice in a secret Asuran laboratory.

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    Well, one thing is certain. I think the writers were going to make S6 the final season of Stargate Atlantis. They were going to close the Wier storyline, return Atlantis to Pegasus and probably have the Atlanits expedition finally defeat the Wraith. Frankly, I don't think that had they gotten season 6, they wouldn't get a season 7 as well.

    Anyway... one way or another, SGU was going to finish the story of the 9th chevron and then the series would have ended, leaving the writers to probably make only a couple of movies after all 3 series would have been completed with their remaining respective movies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mnikolic View Post
    Well, one thing is certain. I think the writers were going to make S6 the final season of Stargate Atlantis. They were going to close the Wier storyline, return Atlantis to Pegasus and probably have the Atlanits expedition finally defeat the Wraith. Frankly, I don't think that had they gotten season 6, they wouldn't get a season 7 as well.
    What makes you think that?

    Anyway... one way or another, SGU was going to finish the story of the 9th chevron and then the series would have ended, leaving the writers to probably make only a couple of movies after all 3 series would have been completed with their remaining respective movies.
    What makes you think this?

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    I just feel that if Atlantis would've gone past season 6, the new stories in any episode past S6 would have recycled stories and elements of the series to the point that the show would be completely unwatchable and unbearable. Knowing the writers, we would probably get some new characters and the show wouldn't be the same, but it wouldn't be better either. But that's just my opinion. SG-1 did last 10 seasons, but that's because the writers were able to come up with a new villain and some new characters, starting with SG-1 S9.

    As for SGU, it's clear that it would be the series ultimate ending. Unless the writers would come up with a 10th chevron (which would require either a re-worked SGU Stargate or a completely new one) - which I seriously doubt that it would happen - the series would have most probably ended there. Besides, IF the writers would come up with a 10th chevron story or with an extension for the 9th chevron's story, what would it be about? SGU was the last planned series and for it, 5 seasons were planned INCLUDING an ending. The writers said they weren't going to make a 4th series. New-old characters thing worked well for Atlantis, but it wouldn't for SGU.

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    Mink,

    Respectfully, I don't see another actor doing justice to the Rush character.
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    The community tried to make an animated 3d fan series and MGM shut it down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ser Scot A Ellison View Post
    Mink,

    Respectfully, I don't see another actor doing justice to the Rush character.
    Then, should the producers get the chance to finish off SGU, they should get everyone back, although I don't see that happening.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gurluas View Post
    The community tried to make an animated 3d fan series and MGM shut it down.
    I agree.

    MGM, if I'm not mistaking, bought the rights to the original Stargate movie back in 1994 and aquired the rights to produce a TV series, which started in 1997. They own every character, story, plot, sub-plot, episode and movie that is somehow tied to the word "Stargate". In another words, the MGM Production is the owner and boss of the Stargate Franchise. So if they don't do it, no-one goes trough the Stargate. Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanith0709 View Post
    SGU is sadly just one of those shows cancelled before it's time. Many have met the same fate and SGU won't be the exception that comes back.

    The campaigns tried and failed, others clinged onto fantasy attempts of raising money to fund a movie (despite everyone pointing out the obvious legal ramifications and the extreme low chance of it being successful). A few even tried creating an animated series but it was canned due to copyright infringement. To be frank SGU hasn't been on life support for well over a year now. We're simply at the stage of taking flowers to it's gravestone and looking back at all the memories.

    As far as the franchise in general goes that's another story. Someone might come along one day and reboot it somewhere down the line, but again someone might not.
    Regretfully, I agree with everything you said above. What a shame things could not have been different for my beloved SGU and the franchise as a whole.

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    Neither can i see anyone else doing the character of rush justice..

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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    Neither can i see anyone else doing the character of rush justice..
    Me too!

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    I think Stargate can be a money maker. i think that someone needs to pick up production, and first off get it on a network with more viewers. i personally always thought it would be much better on a free network, Fox, ABC, NBC, ect. Not everyone has sat. or cable. Also i think with some creative marketing new viewers could be brought on board. All 3 series were great in my opinion. I do hope something happens with Universe, cause I want to know what happens.

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