Finished SGU: So, is that it?

[fatty.mcninja]

The "villain" were all the external forces that threatened the survival of the crew. Its sort of like the first season of Lost. Its not flashy, but I think it allowed a lot more freedom for the writers after being locked into "big bads" for so long. I found it refreshing.

As always, this is just my opinion.

[QuantumIguana]

It is unlikely that we will get any other resolution than perhaps a novel based on the shelved scripts. If a novel is all we get, I'll gladly take it.

However, it is possible that TPTB would consider the revenues from a novel to be insignificant, and would rather keep the story on the shelf where it still has potential value, rather than taking the limited actual value from a novel. I would imagine in ten years a new series "Stargate SG1: The Next Generation", and they could tie in the SGU storyline into that.

I would be against rebooting Stargate. That would just be going over the same old territory. The SGC is a military organization, and military organizations continue on after of its members are retired and replaced. You could easily have a new SGC, with an entirely new cast facing a new threat, without having to erase the old continuity. The show would be stronger as a continuation than as a reboot.

[fatty.mcninja]

I would be against rebooting Stargate. That would just be going over the same old territory. The SGC is a military organization, and military organizations continue on after of its members are retired and replaced. You could easily have a new SGC, with an entirely new cast facing a new threat, without having to erase the old continuity. The show would be stronger as a continuation than as a reboot.

Either way, there will be changes to the show's mythology. I would hope they wouldn't be nearly a sweeping change as some other sci-fi franchises (ahem... George Lucas), but its pretty common for new writers to put their own stamp on a franchise. Not to mention, passage of time will have a lot to do with it. My guess is that if it actually took 10 years to get a new Stargate series, they would "reboot" it. Even if its not strictly a same characters, same big bad, etc. reboot. It will spend a lot of time setting up a mythology and I wouldn't expect it to be the same as the first three series. They'll expect to have a new audience that is largely unfamiliar with the original stories. Sure, some of the major things will still be there, but I'd be willing to bet it is only based on a very very very loose structure of the original mythology. Then again, I could be completely wrong. There are so many variables it boggles the mind.

[garhkal]

And if they did do a full on reboot, they imo would lose a lot of their already established fan base..

[Brother Freyr]

A SGU writer, Rémi Aubuchon, was asked about what had been planned for SGU. He replied,

"I will tell you in terms of [the alien signal] that Brad had very specific ideas of what that was, and I know what those are but I’d rather not mention it in case there is going to be a movie. I will say this: he had a full story worked out in terms of what they were chasing, which is fascinating and interesting. But in terms of character development, we didn’t really have a clear idea about that yet."

I understand why BW is keeping his story under wraps for the moment, in case he can negotiate funding for a movie, however I hope he'll eventually share his story with us regardless of the medium. I'd buy a novel.

BTW, credit for the URL belongs to another poster, in another GW thread, which I can't locate now.

[QuantumIguana]

And if they did do a full on reboot, they imo would lose a lot of their already established fan base..

That's why I think a reboot would be a mistake. A continuation leverages the existing fans. With Battlestar Galactica, a reboot made sense. There wouldn't have been of a story opportunity to continue BSG from where the 1970's series limped to an end. Stargate is ideal for a continuation; new teams, new threats. Consider Doctor Who: to watch the new episodes, you don't need to have watched any of the old episodes. However, the new episodes leverage the old ones, they can create something totally new, or they can weave in the old episodes. If they had tried to make Doctor Who a reboot, and said that the old episodes weren't part of the continuity, it may well have failed.

[fatty.mcninja]

That's why I think a reboot would be a mistake. A continuation leverages the existing fans. With Battlestar Galactica, a reboot made sense. There wouldn't have been of a story opportunity to continue BSG from where the 1970's series limped to an end. Stargate is ideal for a continuation; new teams, new threats. Consider Doctor Who: to watch the new episodes, you don't need to have watched any of the old episodes. However, the new episodes leverage the old ones, they can create something totally new, or they can weave in the old episodes. If they had tried to make Doctor Who a reboot, and said that the old episodes weren't part of the continuity, it may well have failed.

Yeah, that's sort of what I was referring to. Sort of how ST:TNG has little or nothing to do with TOS, but ultimately, it relies on a very basic outline of the mythology of the first show (and occasionally breaks that mythology).

One of the things that could really throw a wrench into this whole discussion is if they make good on the threat (as I perceive it) to make motion pictures out of the next couple of books in the original Stargate series. That could potentially wipe the mythological slate of all three shows in the eyes of MGM. I don't think they would do such a thing, but stranger things have happened.

I'd be very excited by a new series (especially if it was more like SGU) even if it was a reboot. I just love the Stargate as a story-telling device.

[garhkal]

wrench into this whole discussion is if they make good on the threat (as I perceive it) to make motion pictures out of the next couple of books in the original Stargate series. That could potentially wipe the mythological slate of all three shows in the eyes of MGM. I don't think they would do such a thing, but stranger things have happened.

Which would cause me to turn away from MGM entirely.

[fatty.mcninja]

Which would cause me to turn away from MGM entirely.

Couldn't really blame them if they wanted to try and boost their film franchises at the expense of their niche TV franchises. As far as dollars and cents are concerned, they may feel a blockbuster or two would fare better for the company as a whole. I'd probably still watch anything with the Stargate branding on it, but it would make me very angry as an invested fan.

[garhkal]

I could not blame them either.. but i would then be done with them for effectively turning their backs on all of us SG fans.

[Mardus]

The fact that there are no novels and the fact that Brad Wright had the story worked out, means that there's a factor not exactly dependent on BW, MGM, or the money even.

Even if it is the money, then we all have to go to watch the latest "Bond" and "The Hobbit", once these come out.

I am hopeful.

[Wulfmann]

I can't put my finger on it but I just don't have the "wish there was more" like I did other series.

With BSG I have this overwhelming desire to watch it again but it is so heavy i feel I must take a lot of wait time.
I can watch Firefly any time it is just so good. FarScape i can watch every two years and SG1 and SGA may be lighter than the others but they are enjoyable entertainment that can be watched over and over.

SGU is missing something.
It is well filmed and the acting is fine and the concept is good and I like the more realistic human interaction and do not mind the BSG rip off (even the music is BSGish) but I just do not have the desire to see it again.
Oh, i will watch it again but more of what will i watch now not I can't wait to see it.

I should have liked this more than I did but like a great dish they left out an ingredient and it just doesn't taste right to me

[Deevil]

I could not blame them either.. but i would then be done with them for effectively turning their backs on all of us SG fans.

The movies and the series can exist independently of each other. If they make the sequels, which incidentally were talked about LONG before the series, they'll be a seperate identity. You don't have to watch the movies, but you don't have to tie their existence personally either. It's as pointless as folks being offended that SGU exists and SGA was canceled.

[Snowman37]

Why do people take this so personally? If the studio wants to capitalize on the original film with sequels or a remake, who cares? Why take it so personal as to boycott the studio? Ya'll make it sound like MGM kicked your puppy.

[Wulfmann]

Why do people take this so personally? If the studio wants to capitalize on the original film with sequels or a remake, who cares? Why take it so personal as to boycott the studio? Ya'll make it sound like MGM kicked your puppy.

+1

It seems many live their lives through TV and with SciFi that is even more exaggerated

The truly pathetic watch a series over and over again hoping the ending will change

Wulfmann

[garhkal]

People take it so seriously cause they would feel that the Studios wanting to capitalize by flat out ignoring all of us existing fan base, are effectively saying we don't matter.

[jelgate]

Of course we don't matter. We are not statisical significant in the ratings of the show

[Replicator Todd]

Its unfortunate that the Stargate franchise is in this state, I invested so much love and time into all three shows. I've considered picking up all the Stargate novels just for a Stargate fix.

[Dale Volker]

This may sound incredibly nerdy but I have a date set in my head when I will let go of hope for SGU. July 2014. Around 3 years since Gauntlet would have aired (in AUS). 2 years to go

[rushy]

I really liked Eli but I'd vote for his death(come on, the SGU cast didn't like change at all).