The Aschen discussion thread.

[Brother Freyr]

I don't recall anything in the episodes to suggest otherwise. Nothing to suggest we and they aren't reproductively compatible.

[Infinite-Possibilities]

Agreed. Conflating genocide and xenocide will complicate the debate you're having. Aschen and Earthers(?) are both human beings. This crime stays within the family, so to speak.

Truth be told those two words mean the same thing to me. In fact I never use the word xenocide because it doesn't have any weight or emotional resonance behind it. I'm pretty sure it's a made up word used mostly in sci-fi. Even if it isn't, it just sounds silly and therefore is an unfitting for describing such and event. Even so I'd think my point stands. The Aschen did what they did for the explicit purpose of wiping the population of Earth out.

Do we know the ashen are really human though?? Or they an off shoot??

Why wouldn't they be? And even if they were an offshoot, what possible moral difference would it have made?

[Brother Freyr]

And even if they were an offshoot, what possible moral difference would it have made?

Gormagon and garhkal never argued that the Aschen's actions were morally justified. I think they'd agree that the Aschen conquest was immoral. Their point was only that the victims experienced less suffering under the Aschen method of conquest compared to, say, Goa'uld methods of conquest. "Humane" was a poorly chosen word, since it typically includes sympathy or compassion. The core of their message seemed pretty clear to me though and not something that can be sincerely argued. The Aschen method of conquest does cause less suffering than the other methods we've seen. It's still an awful, deplorable act.

[Gormagon]

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[YceQueen]

I thought both episodes involving the Aschen were very interesting, and I would've liked to see maybe one more, just to find out what happened. As someone mentione dhere in this thread, the Aschen were very careful with everything they did. I doubt they would've just started dialing the addresses handed to them, from their own planet. So yes; I would've loved to see one more episode, wrapping things up, and whatnot.

I was disappointed that Jonas (and by extension, Langara) were basically never heard from again in SG-1. Send Jonas home, visit once later that season, and then poof gone. Season 10 they mention the planet getting conquered, and nobody so much as wonders about their buddy Jonas? Sloppy writing, guys. Sloppy. And that the Ori conquest didn't even get mentioned come Seizure...good lord.

Agreed. Terrible way of treating this character and his people. Especially the way it was said; that Langara had been taken over by the Ori as well. No one even mentions Jonas, and whether they know if he's alright or not.

Spoiler:

I really wish he would've made an appearance on SGU. Since they were already using Langara as a planet to dial Destiny, they should've asked Corin to come back, show to longtime Stargate fans that he's alright.