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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    Since so many knew of earth, i do feel eventually they might have figured out where it was.
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    Which makes me wonder. IF they did ever make it, and en mass.. how would earth have faired?

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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    I am surprised no one thought to sue them for their negligence!
    Hehehe. Yeah; wonder who they would have the standing to bring the negligence scase before tho? Maybe a group of the highest-ranking judges from the other 3 of their would judge? I wonder if Moros, based on the way he seemed to dominate the High Council, presumably the Executive Branch could override the Judiciary Branch's authority.



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    I don't recall the Ancients leaving behind too many messes.
    We can start with recalling their time in the Milky Way Galaxy. The Ancients left behind their technology in places that it was very easy to access so that the Go'auld could reverse-engineer those pieces of technology and use it to enslave the less advanced races. Then Moros desceded and established the Avalon Cave to store all those treasures including the Intergalactic Long Range Communcaitions Device which SG-1 unwittingly used to contact the Ori home galaxy and let them discover the fact that life existed in theb Milky Way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    Which makes me wonder. IF they did ever make it, and en mass.. how would earth have faired?
    depends on what defenses we'd have establsihed and acquired at the time they showed up I think
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    ^ They defeated the Ancients.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gormagon View Post
    ^ They defeated the Ancients.
    True; the Wraith did indeed defeat the Ancients. But we aren't the Ancients; I believe we possess much more advanced military knowledge which we demonstrated when we fought them multiple times.
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    Lets say they show up a 2nd time right after Enemy at the gates.. say 3-4 months down the road.
    I envision a group of say 1 more "super hive" powered by some of the other ZPMs that were stolen from the Asurans, 25-30 regular hives, and 45-60 crusiers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    Lets say they show up a 2nd time right after Enemy at the gates.. say 3-4 months down the road.
    I envision a group of say 1 more "super hive" powered by some of the other ZPMs that were stolen from the Asurans, 25-30 regular hives, and 45-60 crusiers.
    That would probably be the end of Earth as an independent power. I mean, even one Superhive was able to moonwalk through pretty much everything that Earth could throw at it, up to and including Atlantis itself. Although Earth's "Super 304" wasn't there, I'm not sure how much the Odyssey's ZPM would have helped - there's only so much that extra power can make up for if the shields and weapons systems can't handle the input that you're trying to give them.

    To be honest, I'm not sure that the second Superhive would actually need the other Hives and cruisers, save perhaps for a thicker Dart screen to avoid another nuclear kamikaze in the Dart bay.


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    The Ancients left behind their technology in places that it was very easy to access so that the Go'auld could reverse-engineer those pieces of technology and use it to enslave the less advanced races.
    Err, what? Other than the Stargates - which the Goa'uld never actually reverse-engineered - ring transporters, and the sarcophagus, what Ancient technologies have the Goa'uld been using?

    And, again, this is another area where the Ancients were a little too busy being dead (this time from a plague) to actually worry about the fact that they might be littering.


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    Then Moros desceded and established the Avalon Cave to store all those treasures including the Intergalactic Long Range Communcaitions Device which SG-1 unwittingly used to contact the Ori home galaxy and let them discover the fact that life existed in theb Milky Way.
    A) That was one Ancient, and the rest of them were so ticked over it that they created a new loophole in their "no interference with mortals" rule to stop him from continuing; B) given that there was another Long-Range Communication Device in a random village in Pegasus, it's quite possible that they were common Ancient communication systems and Moros had no idea that it would eventually connect to the Ancients' home galaxy.
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    Err, what? Other than the Stargates - which the Goa'uld never actually reverse-engineered - ring transporters, and the sarcophagus, what Ancient technologies have the Goa'uld been using?

    And, again, this is another area where the Ancients were a little too busy being dead (this time from a plague) to actually worry about the fact that they might be littering.





    It's wrong to label what they did mere 'littering'. And they didn't all die out from that plague. The corporeal Ancients flourished for a while in the Pegasus Galaxy but didn't bother to ever bother to come back to keep their tech away from the likes of raaces like the Go'auld. The Ascended Ancients didn't do so either.
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    If the wraith found Earth and found a reliable efficient way to reach it, then presumably their infighting would eventually stop and they' be able to crush any defenses Earth could muster and cull the planet with relative ease.

    If they were ever able to bring the full potential of their military might, like they did in the war with the Ancients, I would they would be quite capable of eventually overwhelming the entire Milky Way galaxy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StargateWatcher View Post
    It's wrong to label what they did mere 'littering'.
    Why is it wrong to label what they did mere "littering"?

    Remember, the only Goa'uld technologies that we know are Ancient-derived are the ring transporter and the sarcophagus - it's not like the Ancients left planet busting bombs lying around.


    Quote Originally Posted by StargateWatcher View Post
    And they didn't all die out from that plague. The corporeal Ancients flourished for a while in the Pegasus Galaxy but didn't bother to ever bother to come back to keep their tech away from the likes of raaces like the Go'auld. The Ascended Ancients didn't do so either.
    Before the Ancients were hit by the plague, they had an empire/alliance/whatever that spanned the entire Milky Way galaxy. Do you have any idea how extensive a cleanup project you're demanding on the off-chance that some aggressive younger race will misuse the technology - assuming that they can even figure out how it works. As an example, the Milky Way may have contained as many as 100,000 planets with Stargates on them* and who knows how many other planets with outposts but no Stargate. Consider also that, when the Ancients left for Pegasus, they were pretty much the last survivors of a plaque - we have no idea how much information they took with them about where things were, so they might have had to search the whole Milky Way from scratch to initiate the sort of cleanup that you insist upon

    On that note, for all we know, the Ancients in Pegasus already did make a sweep of the Milky Way, cleaning up or salvaging potentially dangerous or useful technologies like Nova Bombs, ZPMs, grey goo nanites, etc., and what's left is just what the Ancients missed or thought unimportant.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Quadhelix View Post
    That would probably be the end of Earth as an independent power. I mean, even one Superhive was able to moonwalk through pretty much everything that Earth could throw at it, up to and including Atlantis itself. Although Earth's "Super 304" wasn't there, I'm not sure how much the Odyssey's ZPM would have helped - there's only so much that extra power can make up for if the shields and weapons systems can't handle the input that you're trying to give them.

    To be honest, I'm not sure that the second Superhive would actually need the other Hives and cruisers, save perhaps for a thicker Dart screen to avoid another nuclear kamikaze in the Dart bay.
    OK.. perhaps not a full on super hive then.. but a large number of regular hives.. say a dozen, with their attendant cruisers.

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    Had everything not been sold or auctioned off, this could make for an interesting SG-1/Atlantis crossover TV movie, no? Imagine the Wraith invading Milky Way! Granted, it would be mostly an Atlantis story, but there'd naturally be some SG-1 characters and elements given the Milky Way setting.

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    I would love to see the Wraith invade the milky way.... and thin the herd.

    Oh, I'm just wishing for that normal, not just tv wise



    Anyway, I do think they would have eventually found Earth. The food in Pegasus was running low, they would have started expanding to explore even more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowman37 View Post
    Had everything not been sold or auctioned off, this could make for an interesting SG-1/Atlantis crossover TV movie, no? Imagine the Wraith invading Milky Way! Granted, it would be mostly an Atlantis story, but there'd naturally be some SG-1 characters and elements given the Milky Way setting.
    You might enjoy AlexanderD's A New Dawn on ff.net; the Wraith do just that, and they have super-powered Wraith whose has tech even mroe powerful than Todd; won'tt ell you how that Wraith got suepr-powered tho thus spoiling it lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loserinc View Post
    I would love to see the Wraith invade the milky way.... and thin the herd.

    Oh, I'm just wishing for that normal, not just tv wise
    Just as long as they hit the mid east (syria, iran), the far east (china & north korea) and most of Africa first..

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    i think the point being made is that

    the ancients fled the ori - came back to bite us in the a**

    abandoning their tech led to the goa'uld becoming powerful

    they supposedly may have accidentally caused the wraith to exist and didn't take the threat they posed as serious as they should have.

    they created the asurans and assumed they destroyed them all for being too sentient, the asurans became vengeful - fail

    in some circles they are suggested as the origin of the replicators

    so collectively they may have caused the rise of every major villain race so far. obviously they felt a moral conflict against stopping the ori, tried to stop the wraith, had no power against the goa'uld upon returning to the milky way.

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    That about sums it up. Though i wonder why they didn't have any tech here they could have used to try and thwart the gou'ald.

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