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    Quote Originally Posted by tomstone View Post
    I did not mean Peters Son, its logical that he doesnt exist anymore. I meant Peter himself. The Observers wanted this to happen, but why if his existence was crucial to their future?
    September also said that he had the kid with the wrong Olivia. Which is why they changed the timeline. Bolivia & Peter are from the same Universe. Peter & Olivia are the ones that need to have that kid. They are the first to have a kid from different Universes it seems

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackO'Neill View Post
    September also said that he had the kid with the wrong Olivia. Which is why they changed the timeline. Bolivia & Peter are from the same Universe. Peter & Olivia are the ones that need to have that kid. They are the first to have a kid from different Universes it seems
    Yeah, but they wanted to erase him for good afterwards too. I just dont get how they possibly could have thought, that eliminating Peter would solve anything. September went constantly against his orders, so I wonder what the observers really want.

    They fixed it so that September didnt intervene in Peters death in the current timeline and I assume that they know of when September distracted Walternate, which kind of led to this whole mess. So the logical thing would have been to fix that event instead of when Peter drowned.

    Their actions simply dont fit the goal.
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    I guess there is still more to find out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alder View Post
    Oo, hang on a second, I had a different understanding of that.

    I thought that Peter (who is RedPeter, really) was not supposed to die as a child. September was accidentally seen by Walternate, in his eagerness to witness this significant moment, and by distracting Walternate, caused him to miss a vital reaction in his experiment, and think it had failed when it had succeeded.

    (In fact, that really wouldn't make sense any other way, what would have been significant about the moment if he failed, just as our Walter had failed? He was supposed to succeed in curing Peter...I think?)

    So September's interference when Walter and Peter nearly drowned was not random, or purely charitable, but an attempt to "set right what once went wrong" because of his own mistake. He saved Peter's life because Peter was supposed to live.
    I think we've been watching a different Fringe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LtColCarter View Post
    I think we've been watching a different Fringe.
    Alder is right. Thats pretty much how I understood it too. Peter was supposed to live.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LtColCarter View Post
    I think we've been watching a different Fringe.
    In what way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LtColCarter View Post
    I think we've been watching a different Fringe.
    In 4-14 September clearly states that due to his mistake Walternate didn't discover the cure for Peter (as he was supposed to do). He further elaborates that his actions are based on the wish to rectify that mistake. So the obvious conclusion is - like Alder said - that Walternate was supposed to cure Peter and when that failed due to Septembers mistake he tried to rectify it by saving Peter from drowning. This clearly didn't pan out quite like September had intended though. For example Peter had a son with Alt-Olivia, but was supposed to have one with Olivia.

    Quote Originally Posted by tomstone View Post
    They fixed it so that September didnt intervene in Peters death in the current timeline and I assume that they know of when September distracted Walternate, which kind of led to this whole mess. So the logical thing would have been to fix that event instead of when Peter drowned.

    Their actions simply dont fit the goal.
    Since they didn't go the easy/logical way of preventing September from distracting Walternate I would assume that for some reason they cannot undo a change that they themselves introduced. Otherwise just removing September from Walternates lab at the crucial time (or failing that directly preventing September from saving Peter) would seem more efficient.

    I assume that something is preventing them from going the direct route so the seemingly concluded that removing Peter from the timeline entirely would be less harmful than letting the contaminated timeline continue. Why they might think that I have no idea though, but it didn't work out as planned anyway.
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