Does Regina even love Henry? (Possible spoilers as episodes air)

[Mrja84]

First of all I wonder how the book got there to begin with we know that Pinocchio (August) rewrote it after the original was lost but if he wrote the original how did it end up in Storybrooke?

I think he just inserted Pinocchio's story into the original and didn't rewrite the whole book.

I'm thinking the book existed from FTL, but then who wrote it? And why wasn't Regina/Mr. Gold not looking forward as it has lots of information detailed in it?

Either it was created as a result of the curse or something else...

[RJLCyberPunk]

I think he just inserted Pinocchio's story into the original and didn't rewrite the whole book.

I'm thinking the book existed from FTL, but then who wrote it? And why wasn't Regina/Mr. Gold not looking forward as it has lots of information detailed in it?

Either it was created as a result of the curse or something else...

The original was lost remember Regina took it and probably destroyed the original copy as I recall but it's how different that book is from the known Grimm versions that strikes ass odd but even then we sort of have all their stories in our world, how did that happen. Maybe in this show the Grimms might be sorcerers that at some point bind all magic in the world fearing a recurrence of someone like Regina or Rumpel or worse, and then wrote the book with a few alterations of their own Not that humanity got any better without it anyway and nowadays the mastering of science has proven just as dangerous.

[jeri]

I would love to see an episode of how it was when she was raising him. It seems the people in town acted normally, but without any sense of time lapsing.

I say that since Henry's psychologist greeted him and talked about their sessions. And his teacher gave him the book, so shows they were receptive and responsive to Henry and others.

So I am just curious how it all was back then before Emma.

Why did Henry feel so alone that he took up reading the book and believing it? I would like to where his belief in the curse stems from. Why so willing to believe that?

From the latest episode, "An Apple Red as Blood", we finally see Henry and Regina having dinner, but this is Henry further along his belief that she is evil.

I just find Henry's absolute resolve in the story's truth to be unfounded when we just don't know his prior relationship to the woman that raised him.

Why does he hate her so much?

I agree, and good questions. They need to show something like Henry observing Regina doing something bad, or it doesn't follow that he would think the woman who raised him is evil.

[Mrja84]

The original was lost remember Regina took it and probably destroyed the original copy as I recall but it's how different that book is from the known Grimm versions that strikes ass odd but even then we sort of have all their stories in our world, how did that happen. Maybe in this show the Grimms might be sorcerers that at some point bind all magic in the world fearing a recurrence of someone like Regina or Rumpel or worse, and then wrote the book with a few alterations of their own Not that humanity got any better without it anyway and nowadays the mastering of science has proven just as dangerous.

It was assumed, but August grabbed the original and then inserted a new story (at least that's as much as we know).

But good thoughts, who knows. 28 years is kind of odd for the book to be in our world since these stories have been known for much longer.

[RJLCyberPunk]

It was assumed, but August grabbed the original and then inserted a new story (at least that's as much as we know).

But good thoughts, who knows. 28 years is kind of odd for the book to be in our world since these stories have been known for much longer.

Well we know that the Grimm brothers based the stories they wrote on the folklore and legends that they had heard over millenia. And in fact the original book was pretty graphic in the original version the queen in Snow White's story is executed by by making her wear hot iron sleepers and dance until she falls dead.

[Mrja84]

So Regina was pretty emotional in the finale. Does that change anyone's mind?

[jeri]

So Regina was pretty emotional in the finale. Does that change anyone's mind?

Yes, she was. So maybe she does really love Henry, but she is so consumed by hate that it keeps her from showing her love. I think she sees her power as a way to protect Henry and her feelings for him. Next season we will see not only a great battle with Gold and the other people, but a fierce one with Emma. But I think the harder she fights Emma, the more she will hurt or alienate Henry.

[RJLCyberPunk]

Yes, she was. So maybe she does really love Henry, but she is so consumed by hate that it keeps her from showing her love. I think she sees her power as a way to protect Henry and her feelings for him. Next season we will see not only a great battle with Gold and the other people, but a fierce one with Emma. But I think the harder she fights Emma, the more she will hurt or alienate Henry.

I think Regina could go from villain to tragic hero like Londo Molari on Babylon 5 as the series progress in season 2.

[Ser Scot A Ellison]

Oh, I think she loves him, but remember, to enact the dark curse she killed her Father. The curse only worked because she loved him.

[Mrja84]

Oh, I think she loves him, but remember, to enact the dark curse she killed her Father. The curse only worked because she loved him.

There's definitely a push-pull dynamic with Regina loving someone yet desiring the ability not to be controlled by anyone like her mother did to her.

[Lord Kira]

Yep, she loves him. The actress said it, the writers said it, the creators said it, and the show said it.

As for her killing her father. After listen to his daughter poor her heart out about how awful Cora is and how she doesn't want to marry the king and how she just wants a life of her own... he simply says "Are you sure it isn't cold feet about the wedding?"

Not to mention him sitting back doing nothing every time he should have stuck up for his daughter.

Worst. Dad. Ever.

Its no wonder she killed him. Oh, now you're trying to protect me? indeed.

[Ser Scot A Ellison]

Lord Kira,

I repeat the dark curse only worked because she loved her father when she killed him. Regina's love is something that I find very frightening. But I was encouraged to see her willingness to let Henry go.

[Mrja84]

I think her love is an evolving thing. She is growing in how she treats people...

[jeri]

Now she shows some real love for Henry by letting him go with David, but then again, does she have some ulterior motive? She loved her father, but then killed him. She did love him or the curse would not have activated, but she always places her own happiness before others. So it's hard to believe she put Henry's welfare before her own. She may think this will keep the others out of here way, a red herring perhaps.

[hedwig]

When Regina thought her mother (Cora) was dead, she professed her love for her mother. If that's true, it ought to be really interesting when the two of them come together gain, and see what Regina will do to her mother.

[Sam1969]

Okay I haven't been on GW in a long time. But wow this is a bit too much don't ya think?
I'm a hardcore Evil Regal. I love Regina.

And yes, I really do believe she loves Henry. She's been conflicted about other things in her life, but that for certain is the one thing she knows. He is basically her weakness. Heck, she even saved Emma & Snow because she was willing to trust Henry. She doesn't want Cora to come back and go after Henry. Because that's what Cora does, goes after the things Regina loves.

[the fifth man]

I do believe that Regina loves Henry very much. He is the only thing IMO that keeps her from going totally dark again.

[Mrja84]

I do believe that Regina loves Henry very much. He is the only thing IMO that keeps her from going totally dark again.

I have been satisfied with how the show allows her to display her love for him. But @the fifth man, I think Henry can just as easily be the reason she goes dark again.

Heck, he was the reason she tried to kill Emma in Season 1.

[the fifth man]

I just don't think she wants to completely disappoint him. She has something to prove.

[Sam1969]

Everything up to now has had her to prove to him she can change, that she has changed. I have a feeling if she goes dark again, it's not just because of him.. it's because of everyone. Especially what happened in the last episode.

I mean she raised Henry. Yes, she did bad things. But when it comes to him, she's tried to be a good mother. She never harmed him. As things progressed, we saw her being more caring and loving towards him. Out of everyone in SB.. he's the only thing she loves.