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    Default Re: was SGU trying to be battlestar galactica?

    Quote Originally Posted by jeri View Post
    Well said! I don't understand why people keep telling those of us who loved the show, why they hated it. My question is
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    why should I care, and why are you here in SGU land?
    I really don't mean any disrespect, but I do find it odd.
    Definately; It's like an entirely different world in regards to people who like SGU... One where anything isn't taken lightly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombies Rise from the Sea View Post
    Definately; It's like an entirely different world in regards to people who like SGU... One where anything isn't taken lightly.
    Yes, it would be nice if I could have the experience that those who love SG-1 have had. Years of happy discussion with fellow enthusiasts. Sure they have their trolls too, but nothing like the SGU bashing that has gone on around here in the past. It's hard to imagine why people blame others who like SGU for their own unhappiness.

    I joined GW so I could enjoy the discussion, I don't mind healthy, constructive criticism. But when people continue to tell me my opinion is wrong, that is not fun or healthy. There is no accounting for taste. And I really understand if someone doesn't like SGU, so why are they here? I have never gone into other show discussion areas to trash a show. There are plenty on GW I don't like. It would be rude of me and disrespectful to go in there and ruin someone's fun.

    Frankly, the seriousness around SGU discussions are not really about the show, are they?

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    Default Re: was SGU trying to be battlestar galactica?

    Can we get back on topic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LtColCarter View Post
    Can we get back on topic?
    can't you all just drop it all together, I don't really care about it any more...... I only started this thread because I hadn't posted anything in while to he honest

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    Quote Originally Posted by slimjim View Post
    can't you all just drop it all together, I don't really care about it any more...... I only started this thread because I hadn't posted anything in while to he honest
    Great...a troll thread...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LtColCarter View Post
    Great...a troll thread...
    I don't know why but if I create an account on something and then don't use it for anything in a while I start to feel I'm neglecting it

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    Default Re: was SGU trying to be battlestar galactica?

    Quote Originally Posted by myhelix View Post
    I see no intelligent reason to argue with people about why I (or many other people) love something. No need to argue about the almighty greatness of Stargate Universe, just accept it.
    Has anyone EVER told ANYONE to stop liking or loving SGU?
    People have voiced contradictory viewpoints, sure, but no one has ever said "stop liking this show now"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatefan1976 View Post
    Has anyone EVER told ANYONE to stop liking or loving SGU?
    People have voiced contradictory viewpoints, sure, but no one has ever said "stop liking this show now"
    I guess some people see contradictory viewpoints as a directive...

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    Default Re: was SGU trying to be battlestar galactica?

    What“s the point? This topic is useless. SGU is still a awesome, fantastic, wonderful show!
    http://forum.gateworld.net/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=23879&dateline=1364066138

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    Default Re: was SGU trying to be battlestar galactica?

    Quote Originally Posted by myhelix View Post
    What“s the point? This topic is useless.SGU is still a awesome, fantastic, wonderful show!
    There...that is more fitting

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    Quote Originally Posted by LtColCarter View Post
    There...that is more fitting
    We can agree to disagree.

    The only "BSGish" like thing I don“t agree with was the shaky camera, but then again, it was not very presumptuous in SGU, and it was also no BSG invention to use the shacking camera.
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    Default Re: was SGU trying to be battlestar galactica?

    Quote Originally Posted by myhelix View Post
    We can agree to disagree.

    The only "BSGish" like thing I don“t agree with was the shaky camera, but then again, it was not very presumptuous in SGU, and it was also no BSG invention to use the shacking camera.
    The first time I remember seeing the shaky camera stuff was in The Blair Witch Project.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LtColCarter View Post
    The first time I remember seeing the shaky camera stuff was in The Blair Witch Project.
    Yeah, but in "Blair Witch" the overuse of the shaky camera was very annoying. They toned it down a lot in BSG and a bit more so in #SGU.

    But I hate this filming style, "Cloverfield" was one of those candidates.
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    Too much shaky camera makes me nauseous. At first the idea appeared to be to imitate amateur videos, but now most productions endeavor to imitate the effect of our own human visuals while moving, when done correctly, it gives us the feeling of motion and being there. It's interesting to see how the technique has been perfected by most productions since the earlier days when it first became popular.

    When I watched Cloverfield I was uncomfortable the whole time, won't watch it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeri View Post
    Too much shaky camera makes me nauseous. At first the idea appeared to be to imitate amateur videos, but now most productions endeavor to imitate the effect of our own human visuals while moving, when done correctly, it gives us the feeling of motion and being there. It's interesting to see how the technique has been perfected by most productions since the earlier days when it first became popular.
    True; I mean Cloverfield insists that it was filmed from video cameras like "The Blair Witch Project" was but it feels more like seeing through human eyes then anything resembling the Blair Witch project. I guess film makers want to make the first person experience as much as a roller coaster ride as possible, hence the near closeness to human vision as possible. I'll agree that watching Cloverfield was uncomfortable but I think the camera was the most essential part of the movie, one that gave it it's name as a roller coaster ride... You can't deny that people went to see the movie to see whether they'd get disoriented or not. (Note: I seen the movie, I did not get disoriented throughout the time I watched it.)

    SGU's shaky cam wasn't like Cloverfield or the Blair Witch but it was disappointing; it felt like someone tried to combine a dramatic camera with a reality show camera and ended up failing... I mean compared to 24 the camera angles felt mostly safe.

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    Default Re: was SGU trying to be battlestar galactica?

    I thought they were very similar shows to each other, actually, and I loved both.

    While I like Atlantis, I think Universe is much better. I haven't actually seen more than a couple episodes of SG-1, so can't really talk about that, but they only had the Lucyn alliance and the Ori - no other aliens afaik?

    I think having them be on a ship is much more interesting than just going throigh the stargates - ships are cooler, I guess so they share that with Battlestar Galactica.

    Universe has a more edgy feel, and I think it shares that with Battlestar galactica also - and I thought it was on purpose b/c it was such a popular show. I think it was a good idea to copy that.

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    I don't think it was the writers intention to turn Stargate into Battlestar Galactica, while creating SGU. Some similarities between the show's styles does SGU not make a copy of BSG.

    I enjoyed the darker tone, though, the use of camera (don't kill me but I never had problems with this style, should I feel sorry now?), the normal behaving, flawed people, military and civilians respectively, amongst other things.

    And without knowing a lot of SG-1 episodes, yes, there have been more aliens, like the Goa'ulds (a parasite life form, who lives in human bodies, and controls its hosts), and others, in the earlier seasons. But it's hard to recognize them as aliens, cos they look like humans, and talk fluently English like English natives.

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    Default Re: was SGU trying to be battlestar galactica?

    I liked the filming style of SGU as well.


    The shows were similar in a couple regards but not so much in most. For example, in BSG, it was believed that the ~50,000 people of the fleet were the last surviving humans. On SGU, there were only 80-ish stranded on the other side of the universe.

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