I'm wondering if Rodney has just enough of a sociopathic personality disorder to be able to get past the whole feeding issue? They died so I might live, and self-preservation is pretty high on his list. If they were random perhaps he would have no need to feel guilty...? However, we are presupposing he will recall all of his time as Wraith, and this could come under 'things I'd sooner not face' PTSD.
And maybe I'm doing him a disservice, and he does have morals us lesser mortals can relate to.
Rodney's going to need a psychologist when he's back to normal, especially if he has to feed when he was Quicksilver. Eva would be the obvious choice because, even if there are other Stargate Program psychologists back on Earth, they haven't been to Pegasus.
Having an opportunity to earn her keep doesn't mean that Rodney could be helped by counselling alone, of course. Perhaps Sheppard and Beckett would have contributions to make because of their own experiences-
1: Sheppard persuaded Wallace to be Todd's lunch. (Miller's Crossing)
2: Beckett helped Perna to develop the Hoffan drug. (Poisoning The Well) This ultimately led to the death of thousands of Pegasus humans.
There's also the fact that every hive ship blown up by the Atlantis expedition had cocooned humans on board.
However, the human mind's ability to repress things it doesn't feel prepared to deal with is pretty impressive, and I'm betting that even includes people who wear their emotions as obviously as Rodney tends to do.
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Surely the point of interpreting dreams is to discover what our brains are thinking when we're asleep and discovering why they're thinking it?HEIGHTMEYER: The truth is, people waste a lot of time trying to interpret their dreams. They're really just another way our brain thinks when we're asleep. There are no hidden meanings. In fact, we tend to forget most everything we dream about. Our conscious mind is capable of deciding what's most important to us.
Heightmeyer has now given Teyla's nightmare an interpretation. It turns out that there is a hidden meaning to it because Teyla has Wraith DNA. Her unconscious seems to have figured this out and is trying to tell her through a dream.TEYLA: Well, the fact that on some level I see myself as a Wraith is very disturbing to me.
HEIGHTMEYER: I think this special ability that you have, this talent for sensing the Wraith, connects you to them in your mind -- maybe in a way you would like to deny.
Anyway, back to Rodney. His fiddling around with the Asuran base code also resulted in a lot of human deaths.
1: The Ancients from the Tria.
2: Pegasus communities when the Asurans decided to drive the Wraith to extinction by getting rid of their food supply.
How would Quicksilver feeding on a few humans compare to the disasters caused by the Atlantis expedition?
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As for the second point, I definitely think that in the bigger picture, a few deaths by Quicksilver's hand is nothing compared to the deaths the expedition have caused. Human and otherwise, though the show never cared about killing tons of non-humans. *rolls eyes*
However, I think it's a lot easier to distance oneself from killing by proxy as opposed to doing the actual deed yourself. So while it's morally no worse for a Wraith to kill a few humans than for a human to kill livestock, really, it's probably going to have a much wider effect that Rodney might have killed while he was a Wraith than the fact that the Atlantis expedition has caused a lot of death due to messing with the Asuran base code, as well as going and waking up the Wraith in the first place. It's not fair, but honestly, there's preciously little that is in the current situation in the books.
Harder for Rodney, certainly. It's one thing to be responsible in some distant sense and another to kill someone face to face with your bare hands. (Or bear hands, in Isolde's case!) ;DHowever, I think it's a lot easier to distance oneself from killing by proxy as opposed to doing the actual deed yourself. So while it's morally no worse for a Wraith to kill a few humans than for a human to kill livestock, really, it's probably going to have a much wider effect that Rodney might have killed while he was a Wraith than the fact that the Atlantis expedition has caused a lot of death due to messing with the Asuran base code, as well as going and waking up the Wraith in the first place. It's not fair, but honestly, there's preciously little that is in the current situation in the books.
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Rodney hasn't completely disappeared, though, because his unconscious mind knows who he is and is conveying this information through the Weir dream character. For me, this ties in with his hallucination of Sam Carter in 'Grace Under Pressure'.
andCARTER: The way I see it, you're scared. You're a little panicked, you're a lot lonely. You knew you could use some help, so your subconscious is manifesting the one person you know is smarter than you.
andCARTER (interrupting): You're essentially arguing with yourself. You realise that, right? Your mind is creating me.
Maybe Quicksilver will feel some kind of inner conflict if he has to feed because of what his unconscious mind knows. On the other hand, Rodney's unusual talent for creating helpful hallucinations performed a different function in 'Sunday'. Rodney blames himself for Beckett's death.CARTER: I'll help you stay alive as long as possible, but no -- I'm not helping you with this plan.
McKAY: So my own hallucination is saying no to me?!
CARTER: You must realise subconsciously that you need to be talked out of this.
Rodney won't accept Ronon's trying to say that it wasn't his fault but he does know this unconsciously and his mind creates Beckett.McKAY: (He looks at Ronon for a moment.) I should have just gone fishing with him.
DEX (his voice almost breaking): Don’t.
McKAY: No. If I’d gone fishing ... if I’d checked the machine ... if I hadn’t assigned two junior guys to catalogue the lab ...
DEX (gently): Rodney. What’s done is done.
(Rodney’s eyes fill with tears.)
McKAY: I know. And that’s why it’s killing me.
Maybe Rodney would be able to solve his own guilt etc about having to feed (all supposing he does have to) by creating another helpful hallucination.McKAY: I should have just ...
BECKETT: Hey. This isn’t your fault.
McKAY: You’re just tellin’ me what I wanna hear.
BECKETT: Well, that’s what best friends do sometimes. And in this case it also happens to be true.
I'm quite fond of him myself. He might not be in my top three, but he's close behind, mostly because he really has grown as a character over the show. He just needs a few reminders when he goes off on an arrogance trip. There's a reason why I adore some of the scenes with him and Todd; he keeps automatically trying to boss Todd around like he does his subordinates, and then remembers he's picking on a Wraith and freaks out a little. (I'm certain Todd finds that sort of amusing, really.)
Besides, Rodney is easy to handle. If he gets all huffy, just toss lemons at him until he goes away.
DREAM SEQUENCE. Looking through the eyes of the dreamer, we are walking through a Wraith ship. Other Wraith can be seen.
(Michael jerks awake in his bed, gasping for breath. He stares into the room, then breathes out in relief. He gets out of bed and walks over to a small table with a jug of water on it. He pours himself a glass, then turns to face the mirror on the wall. A Wraith stares back at him, roaring.)
(Michael jerks awake in his bed, gasping for breath. He stares into the room, then breathes out in relief.)
1: The 'Before I Sleep' version who changed the timeline. She was a very old woman when she was found and she soon died.
2: Changed timeline Weir who ended up being killed by the Asurans.
3: Organic Asuran Weir (This Mortal Coil) who was killed.
4: Non-organic Asuran Weir who was last scene frozen in space.
I think we can rule out Rodney being in mind to mind contact with yet another Replicator Weir. She'd have to be on the hive ship in order to stick a finger in his brain or have found a way to infest him with nanites to create technological telepathic incidents. It would be impossible to do either without the Wraith finding out.
The ascended Ancients and Others are against any of their number helping ordinary mortals to ascend. As far as I know, only SG-1's Oma Desala did this with disastrous results when the Goa'uld, Anubis, tricked her. Even if an ascended being had defied the others to ascend changed timeline Weir, her trying to help Rodney would be a violation of the non-interference rules. She'd have been whisked away as soon as she got in contact with him.
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