The Girl Who Waited (3210)

[Quizziard]

I've just realised that this episode could have been over in 5 minutes.

Yup - she could have yelled through the closed door, "Which of the two buttons did you press?"

Anyway, on some of the other random points, if I can remember them:

a) Perhaps Amy doesn't want to so easily give up the 36 years of lonely struggle in a moment of time-line readjustment. I guess she feels considerably frustrated at having to go through it. Notwithstanding her forgetfulness at Rory's far superior (albeit chosen) commitment/sacrifice, it would effectively eliminate her efforts. She was being very selfish.

b) A medicine for one species would not necessarily be harmful to another, especially when 99% of the two physiologies is likely to be the same. But I guess it's convenient it was...

c) I think the pressure to save Melody is reduced but will still take place in a few episode's time...

[morbosfist]

They can't save Melody. Time has already played out. Mels lived her life as a friend of her parents, as a child in an astronaut suit, and so forth. There's no rescuing to be done. They already turned her from the path of a crazy assassin. Any more would break causality.

[jameshawking]

another correction:

GG: the TARDIS doesn't always take him where he wants to go, surely. But it does at some points (even the doctor admits this). It always makes sure he goes where he's needed, but he does get some say in it.

[Nth Chevron]

Did anyone else catch the Doctors line of

"If you know your own fate you can work out how to avoid it"

??

I thought that was a clever little hidden line amongst the emotion of the episode, does this suggest the Doctor knows about Utah?

Or is it a suggestive way of getting Rory/Amy to tell the Doctor about what began in in Episode 1?

N.C

[Alan]

Did anyone else catch the Doctors line of

"If you know your own fate you can work out how to avoid it"

??

I thought that was a clever little hidden line amongst the emotion of the episode, does this suggest the Doctor knows about Utah?

Or is it a suggestive way of getting Rory/Amy to tell the Doctor about what began in in Episode 1?

N.C

The Doctor is well aware of his fate now. In Let's Kill Hitler he got the information downloaded in to the TARDIS and it tells him the where and the when of his death.

[Nth Chevron]

Damn i must've blinked and missed that part.

Still, it could be a foreshadowing of the Doctor giving River spoilers about her fate

N.C

[aintright]

^ don't 'blink' you can never 'blink'


i mean .... doncha know!!


teehee!!

[aintright]

ok.... braved it enought to watch it again!! *sob*

for the sake of my best bud!!


the part where she is talking about comparing one who is instantly beautiful (ie the Dr. - who is evil i say after this ep - evil)

and then the one who becomes beautiful as she comes to know him ... comes to love him .... the good man (rory of course)

i looked across the room at my boy who was only watching to appease me ...

oh my this was such a love story .... so beautifully played out .... the after 36 years and still just to have his touch, see his smile, to hear his voice ....


there was this boy who said he was in a rock band .....

*sigh*

oh my!


teehee!!

[mi_guard]

"Planet of the Coffee Shops"

could be paradise

[Coco Pops]

I have a question or two.

How is it possible that the interface could show Amy a picture of Earth? Did Amy give that to the computer? If it knows about Earth then surely it knows that Amy is human and the medicine would be bad for her? Then again all that stuff about the medicine seemed a bit odd.... But yeah how did the computer know what to project for the hologram of Earth if it didn't know about Earth and humans so why not make the robots aware of this to leave Amy alone?

[morbosfist]

I have a question or two.

How is it possible that the interface could show Amy a picture of Earth? Did Amy give that to the computer? If it knows about Earth then surely it knows that Amy is human and the medicine would be bad for her? Then again all that stuff about the medicine seemed a bit odd.... But yeah how did the computer know what to project for the hologram of Earth if it didn't know about Earth and humans so why not make the robots aware of this to leave Amy alone?

They have a copy of the Mona Lisa and the planet is described as a sort of cultural melting pot, taking aspects from cultures all over the galaxy. It's a fair bet it has a record of Earth. As for the medicine bit, the handbots were not programmed to distinguish lifeforms. The facility was designed with assumption that no one would ever visit the planet without knowing what was going on.

[Coco Pops]

They have a copy of the Mona Lisa and the planet is described as a sort of cultural melting pot, taking aspects from cultures all over the galaxy. It's a fair bet it has a record of Earth. As for the medicine bit, the handbots were not programmed to distinguish lifeforms. The facility was designed with assumption that no one would ever visit the planet without knowing what was going on.

Then shouldn't the Doctor have known of this or the TARDIS records updated to include this. There must be some kind of universal internet that the TARDIS can update stuff from.

If not it was a poorly designed place and lack of info sent to potential visitors.

[pbellosom]

"Planet of the Coffee Shops"

could be paradise

I would love that world so much.

They have a copy of the Mona Lisa

But which of the six is it?

[P-90_177]

Then shouldn't the Doctor have known of this or the TARDIS records updated to include this. There must be some kind of universal internet that the TARDIS can update stuff from.

If not it was a poorly designed place and lack of info sent to potential visitors.

As the Doctor told Rory, that's not how he travels.

[Pharaoh Atem]

liked it didn't cry

[Coco Pops]

Wasn't there some pictures of the Doctor and Rory or maybe just The Doctor looking over a small whte tank? I thought that was holding Amy...

[morbosfist]

Wasn't there some pictures of the Doctor and Rory or maybe just The Doctor looking over a small whte tank? I thought that was holding Amy...

No, that was the control panel for the temporal stream thingamabob.

[Coco Pops]

No, that was the control panel for the temporal stream thingamabob.

Oh...

[rosey_angel]

My thought about it is, if I were a parent and had my baby kidnapped I wouldn't care about causality I would just want my baby back. I know they can't do it and it wouldn't really work for the show at all, but I would appreciate just a small moment where either Amy or Rory show that they are sad that they lost the chance to raise their daughter.

As for how long Amy had Melody, it seemed to me that the baby was a lot older than one day before they lost her but that could just be me. I assumed that she was around a month or so old before Amy was rescued.

[morbosfist]

They've met their daughter as an adult several times already. That's a pretty big hole to tear in causality. They're time travelers now. I think they're willing to accept that they can't save River as a baby, but they've saved her as an adult.