Season Two Casting Changes/Additions

[fems]

Could also be the pronunciation of the names when others talk about them. It's easier to know who they're talking about when you read it than when you hear them speak about someone.

[maxbo]

Good point. I can see the suits insisting on this name change foolishness for just that reason. And, I can also see the creatives saving their energy to fight for bigger issues down the line. After all, if the series is allowed to play out in full, we're looking at potentially seven (or more?) seasons and each will likely be subject to a lot of creative disagreements, large and small.

Could also be the pronunciation of the names when others talk about them. It's easier to know who they're talking about when you read it than when you hear them speak about someone.

That's also a good point.

[g.o.d]

well, some portion of viewers are idiots who wouldn't know a difference between two different characters with similar names. That's it

[Skydiver]

here's casting broken down on one page for anyone interested

http://spoiler-alert.livejournal.com/683892.html#cutid1

spoilers for season two plots and characters in the descriptions along with a vague spoiler about a book three plot line for one character (apparently there's a plot line from book 3 that'll be seen in season two)

[VampyreWraith]

All the cast additions are looking great. Though I do agree with those here that are not too pleased with Asha's name being changed to Yara.

[Skydiver]

I think the casting is fine. I really hadn't made mental images of characters not already seen in season one....i think the one thing that's interesting is the description of Tyrion in the books constantly refers to him being a dwarf and 'ugly', and there's another character in s2 who is referred to as being 'homely'....so it'll be interesting if hte actor in question is 'uglified' or if the show doesn't focus on that aspect (just like Jorah is described in the book as being half bald i think and definitely a middle aged male, but in the show he's not that bad )

[Cold Fuzz]

I think the casting is fine. I really hadn't made mental images of characters not already seen in season one....i think the one thing that's interesting is the description of Tyrion in the books constantly refers to him being a dwarf and 'ugly', and there's another character in s2 who is referred to as being 'homely'....so it'll be interesting if hte actor in question is 'uglified' or if the show doesn't focus on that aspect (just like Jorah is described in the book as being half bald i think and definitely a middle aged male, but in the show he's not that bad )

Interesting point about Jorah as I was reviewing some of Dany's chapters in the first book. He was described as having dark hair and balding and a bit weather beaten as well as middle-aged. With Iain Glen being 50, the producers pulled off some excellent casting for Jorah despite the difference in hair color. He certainly does bear a resemblance to James Cosmo, the actor who played Jeor Mormont.

[VampyreWraith]

I never really pictured Jorah or Tyrion as ugly, even though the book does say that they're not attractive. I guess it's because I liked both characters, so in my head I just pictured them looking pretty good.


Brienne is supposed to be ugly, the actress cast to play her isn't ugly, but she seems to have the right body type, and maybe with different makeup she might not look as pretty. Ugly is relative I guess, some of the characters might think themselves ugly because of low self esteem/image, and maybe others might see them as uglier than they are because they're different.


I personally don't much care if the actor's appearance exactly match what's written, as long as they're playing the character well. For season 1 a lot of the actors didn't really matched how I originally saw the characters(sometimes because they didn't match the character's description in the text), but I ended up really enjoying how they portrayed their character, so I see them as that character now.

[Cold Fuzz]

I never really pictured Jorah or Tyrion as ugly, even though the book does say that they're not attractive. I guess it's because I liked both characters, so in my head I just pictured them looking pretty good.


Brienne is supposed to be ugly, the actress cast to play her isn't ugly, but she seems to have the right body type, and maybe with different makeup she might not look as pretty. Ugly is relative I guess, some of the characters might think themselves ugly because of low self esteem/image, and maybe others might see them as uglier than they are because they're different.


I personally don't much care if the actor's appearance exactly match what's written, as long as they're playing the character well. For season 1 a lot of the actors didn't really matched how I originally saw the characters(sometimes because they didn't match the character's description in the text), but I ended up really enjoying how they portrayed their character, so I see them as that character now.

Iain Glen really nailed Jorah down well for me so it was definitely him I imagined in A Dance with Dragons as opposed to what I originally pictured when I first read Game of Thrones. I think Glen gave him an excellent physical presence, especially when we finally saw Jorah fight in "Baelor." But what really impressed me about his performance was his voice.

The same could be said of Emilia Clarke as Dany. After reading A Dance with Dragons and picturing Emilia Clarke in my mind, I don't think anyone else could pull off Dany now.

[Skydiver]

True, ugly is a relative term. And I do think, in the case of Brienne, she could be termed 'ugly' just because she's not fussing over her appearance as females would be expected to....doesn't do her hair, etc.

but i do also agree with self confidence...both Tyrion and her have spent their lives being told how bad they are so they think it

i hadn't read the books until i saw the shows, so when I read the book, i see the actors not my mental picture.

[magictrick]

More casting news!

Oona Chaplin has been cast as Jeyne. No last name is given, could be Jeyne Poole or Jeyne Westerling...
More info here http://www.westeros.org/GoT/News/Ent...plin_is_Jeyne/

Looks like she's been cast as Jeyne Westerling.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansit.../news/?a=44507

[The Mighty 6 platoon]

More casting news, Balon Greyjoy, Lord of the Iron Islands and father to Theon and Yara (Asha in the books) has been cast. Patrick Malahide has the role. More info here.
http://winter-is-coming.net/2011/08/...balon-greyjoy/

Pyat Pree, one of the warlocks of Qarth, has also been cast and is to be played by actor Ian Hanmore. Finally Podrick Payne, a young squire assigned to Tyrion Lannister, has been cast and is to be played by Daniel Portman. More info on the both of those here. http://www.westeros.org/GoT/News/Ent...Balon_Greyjoy/

[The Mighty 6 platoon]

Even more casting news. Dagmer Cleftjaw is master-at-arms for the Greyjoy’s and captains the ship Foamdrinker. He earned his nickname as a boy, when an axe blow to the face left him with a nasty scar.He is to be played by Ralph Ineson.
http://winter-is-coming.net/2011/08/...cleftjaw-cast/

And Salladhor Saan, a mercenary pirate pledged to the late King Robert’s brother Stannis, is to be played by Lucian Msamati.
http://winter-is-coming.net/2011/08/...hor-saan-cast/

[The Mighty 6 platoon]

Rorge and Biter, two dangerous criminals who Arya travels with on the way to the wall have been cast. Andy Beckwith and Gerard Jordan have the roles respectively. These two characters were actually seen at the end of season 1, briefly, where they were played by extras.

Winter is Coming have more details.
http://winter-is-coming.net/2011/09/...nd-biter-cast/

[Shylodog]

Rorge and Biter, two dangerous criminals who Arya travels with on the way to the wall have been cast. Andy Beckwith and Gerard Jordan have the roles respectively. These two characters were actually seen at the end of season 1, briefly, where they were played by extras.

Winter is Coming have more details.
http://winter-is-coming.net/2011/09/...nd-biter-cast/

I was gonna say... I thought we saw them in the wagon. They may never even give a second thought to explain the different actors, or they may pull a Lucas and reshoot the previous season's scenes with the new actors.

[Skydiver]

If the shot was never close enough to see a face then it doesn't matter if it was recast.

[LeftHandedGuitarist]

For the fleeting few seconds we saw them at the end of season 1, the actors hired would have just been extras, probably local to Malta. Do you think it would have made any sense to hire the actors for the speaking parts at that time? Especially since they would not have even known if the show was going to get a second season at that point.

[Shylodog]

For the fleeting few seconds we saw them at the end of season 1, the actors hired would have just been extras, probably local to Malta. Do you think it would have made any sense to hire the actors for the speaking parts at that time? Especially since they would not have even known if the show was going to get a second season at that point.

I can understand that, BUT anyone who knows the story should have known that those roles are significant enough to have faces more recognizable than a couple of extras (just in case). Just saying'.

[Skydiver]

comes down to money. ANd it would have cost thousands to hire actors for a 20 second shot,(not to mention tens of thousands to fly them in, put them up, costume them, etc) while the extras likely got hundreds. Which, as was pointed out, they didn't even know they were going to get a s2, why waste money like that??

not to mention that many 'speaking part' actors will not even take a non-speaking role. They have lines or they don't take the gig. And since the show couldn't guarantee them a contract for season two, they likely couldn't find any actors willing to take the roles that weren't extras.

[g.o.d]

http://www.spoilertv.com/2011/09/gam...over-nude.html