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    Just what it says in the title. ^

    The suggestion's been made ( quite frequently) to Darren/the Mods that GW/SciFiStream goes with Series 1-6 when numbering/titling threads for RTD and Steven Moffat's Doctor Who seasons ,but others have stated they prefer to recognise the longevity of The Doctor by sticking to S1-32 .

    Which structure do you personally prefer ?
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    Default Re: Season 1-32 or Season 1-6 ? Which numerical structure do you prefer ?

    Personally, I prefer 1-6, but that is because I starting watching Doctor Who with the RTD era.

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    Default Re: Season 1-32 or Season 1-6 ? Which numerical structure do you prefer ?

    Quote Originally Posted by sparklegem View Post
    Personally, I prefer 1-6, but that is because I starting watching Doctor Who with the RTD era.
    Same here. I personally prefer that numbering system for the episodes, e.g. 512, 513, 601, etc.


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    Default Re: Season 1-32 or Season 1-6 ? Which numerical structure do you prefer ?

    I prefer 1-6 as well, the new seasons are almost like a different show compared to the old series.

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    Default Re: Season 1-32 or Season 1-6 ? Which numerical structure do you prefer ?

    I don't mind either, but if I had to choose I'd confront the norm. I think the Series 27 thing adds to the feeling of the subforum and Doctor Who's history. It's a healthy reminder that this subforum can be used to discuss the classic series as well as the revival.

    That said, it is generally global knowledge that the show has a huge history behind it. I just think if we choose one setting for this over another then we'd get complaints in the Mod threads about ignoring it by some folk. It's something I believe even more now I know people have repeatedly raised the point of being torn between calling series 27 and series 1.

    So why not just keep both?

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    I prefer to think of them as 27/1, 28/2 29/3, 30/4, Fnarg and 32/6, but that's a pretty complicated sounding name for each series which I imagine would confuse newcomers.

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    Default Re: Season 1-32 or Season 1-6 ? Which numerical structure do you prefer ?

    1-32

    It's still the same show as it was back in 1963, and the recent "revival (I hate it when people use words like revival, reimagining or reboot as it is a continuation)" should not be treated differently.

    Pbellosom, wtf does Fnarg mean?
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    I think of them in terms of Series 1-32, but seasons 1-6, to distinguish the 'new' ones from the 'old' system.

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    Series 1-32. Anything else is just incorrect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billz View Post
    Pbellosom, wtf does Fnarg mean?
    When Moffat started his first season the BBC was trying to rebrand it as season one. Someone asked Moffat what was it's actual name and he said he'd given up trying to work out whether it was 1, 31 or 5 and just called it Fnarg and the name has stuck amongst many people as a result

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    I prefer Season 1-6, to distinguish the old with the new. I know some Whovians don't like to call the adventures of the first 8 doctors as "Classic" Who. But that is kinda what it is.

    Someday I hope what many are calling "Season/Series" 1-6 will someday simply be the "Ninth,Tenth, Eleventh years" much to the way "Classic" Who is on DVD.

    It gets confusing with 32 seasons IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbellosom View Post
    When Moffat started his first season the BBC was trying to rebrand it as season one. Someone asked Moffat what was it's actual name and he said he'd given up trying to work out whether it was 1, 31 or 5 and just called it Fnarg and the name has stuck amongst many people as a result
    I had heard about the starting with 1 again with Moffat. Hadn't heard about "Fnarg"! I love that! It is just weird. I would've perfered if it just keep going on instead of starting over. It was a task to explain to my kids why our DW DVD sets 1-4 (at the time, we have everything up to season 5 now) are AFTER the other DW episodes we have watched. And well the series and seasons thing too. But they got it.

    It just reminds me of not knowing what season of Flashpoint is on. It is Canadian and a USA network picked it up. But this network has some pull so we are to go with THEIR season numbering when it comes to the DVD sets. Also our Canadian station will air Flashpoint at different times because the USA network will say one thing and then change their minds when they are airing it. So I believe I saw the first half of season 3 in Canada early this year. The USA station has started to show those episodes so CTV is reshowing them at the same time and I will finally be able to see the rest of the season when the USA station gets to that point, since CTV will air them then. I think it's season 3, may be 4. It gets confusing.
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    Oh right, forgot. Me, I don't mind the 1-32 numbering because that's how I think of it anyway even though my boxsets aren't like that.
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    Default Re: Season 1-32 or Season 1-6 ? Which numerical structure do you prefer ?

    Personally, I think that the 1-6 numbering is just straight-up dumb.

    The decision to start numbering them at 1 was a decision made by the BBC suits to not scare off new viewers, it wasn't a creative decision. It's BBC Wales' continuation of BBC's long-standing Doctor Who series, and it darn well ought to reflect that.

    If we're going to call them 1-6, I think I'll start calling season 6 of SG-1, season 1. Sure it's the same characters, same premise, and same series name--but clearly the minor changes add up to a new show so it should've been re-numbered to season 1

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    I prefer seasons 1-32 - reflecting the long history of the show.

    I had a quick look around the interwebs to see what others use for this season - the BBC say "series 6", the Guardian newspaper uses "Season 32", Gallifrey Base says "Series 6 (season 32)" and Doctor Who Magazine calls it "Series 2". Arrrggghhh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DigiFluid View Post
    Personally, I think that the 1-6 numbering is just straight-up dumb.

    The decision to start numbering them at 1 was a decision made by the BBC suits to not scare off new viewers, it wasn't a creative decision. It's BBC Wales' continuation of BBC's long-standing Doctor Who series, and it darn well ought to reflect that.

    If we're going to call them 1-6, I think I'll start calling season 6 of SG-1, season 1. Sure it's the same characters, same premise, and same series name--but clearly the minor changes add up to a new show so it should've been re-numbered to season 1
    Surely if one was to start renumbering SG1 seasons, season nine would be the one to become a second season one

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    Quote Originally Posted by DigiFluid View Post
    It's BBC Wales' continuation of BBC's long-standing Doctor Who series, and it darn well ought to reflect that.

    If we're going to call them 1-6, I think I'll start calling season 6 of SG-1, season 1. Sure it's the same characters, same premise, and same series name--but clearly the minor changes add up to a new show so it should've been re-numbered to season 1
    I would disagree with this, because it seems there is a huge discrepancy between the magnitude of changes in Doctor Who and SG-1. In your SG-1 example, there is continuity of creative staff: actors, producers, writers, etc. Yes, creative staff evolves over the course of the show (Cooper replaces Glassner, Jonas replaces Daniel, etc.) but you still have continuity in the greater portion of the creative staff.

    Now, I haven't seen a list of exactly who was working on the creative team for Doctor Who in 1989 and compared that with the creative team of 2005, but I would presume, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, that none of the major creative staff are the same. The current producers look too young to have been with the show in 1989, RTD certainly wasn't, and none of the actors were. Even when major showrunner/actor/whoever changes happened in the old series of Doctor Who, I'm sure they didn't fire all the influential job positions in the show and rehire a whole new staff. It seems to me that the only connection of the new series with the old is a single (personality-varying) character, the Doctor, and a loose following of previously established canon.

    For this reason, then, Doctor Who is only a step above a complete reboot because of its acknowledgment of previous canon. And no one has a qualm with saying the new versions of BSG and V have a "season 1".

    If SGA and SG1 hadn't overlapped in the years they were airing, I would be more likely to talk about SGA starting at season 11 than to talk about Doctor Who starting at season 27.

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    I prefer labeling Doctor Who by the Doctors themselves. The First Doctor years and so on. But who would possibly do that?!
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    I prefer to go by Doctor then season/series.

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