2000 yr and Novus people still doesn't have FTL or Hyper drive?

[ckwongau]

May be it was a plot device to prevent TJ from getting the ALS cure .
But it is a bit hard to believe the people of Novus doesn't have any FTL or hyperdrive.

Earth can build it's own hyperdive 6yr after alien contact.( S601 SG1: "Redemption, Part 1") ,They copy it from the Goa'uld tech, and got some help from Jonas's Naquadria
it was a partial failure.because Naquadria's instabilities.
Then the X-303;s hyper drive was brought on line with help of NId's goa'uld Adrian Conrad. The Naquadria problem was later fix by a Buffer.
But still the problem remain, until Earth gets hyperdrive from the Asgard .

But still Earth can develop hyper drive on her own in 5 or 6 yr time.and the slowly fixing the Naquadria problem, until switching to more traditional naquadah base Asgard design hyperdrive.

The people of Novus didn't start out from stone age, from the first day , they have a kino with anti gravity.Battery power for the kino to record so much of it's early day.
simple metal tools after a while.
They have understanding to things like Electromagnetism.
And once they have proper tools, they could easily build hot air balloon or wright brothers type flying machine.
They have access to stargate for at least over one thousand and nine hundred seventy yr.They had more than enough time to find naquadah typer material offword.
And the cold war situation on Novus probably give them motivation for advance in science.

Alt Eli and other scientist could have wrtten down formula for hyper drive or FTL drive for the futuure generation.If they don't understand FTL drive , then just could just build hyperdrive.

If the Novus can find cure for ALS 200 yr ago, they probably reach the point with population and infrastructure equal to Earth's 21 centural 200 yr ago.

[Pharaoh Atem]

lack of a element that could power a FTL or hyperdrive? we only got our knowledge of this tech from the asguad and studying gud'lud tech for years.

the crew from destiny more importantly Eli might not have had the knowlegde to write it into a text book for the novus people to learn from.

[Shadow_7]

If Rush had made it to Novus, in those first 2,000 years... He'd at least make Alt. Brody look like a childrens TV show host. Damn kids, always on my lawn...

It does seem like they were stunted by something. Prehaps their 1960's last 1,900 years...

[morbosfist]

It's not so easy to develop something from scratch as it is to adapt it from existing tech. Earth, the Goa'uld, pretty much every advanced alien race cheated by copying the Ancients. You can't expect a civilization to jump from agrarian to beyond Space Age within a couple of millenia.

[Keeper]

May be it was a plot device to prevent TJ from getting the ALS cure .
But it is a bit hard to believe the people of Novus doesn't have any FTL or hyperdrive.

Earth can build it's own hyperdive 6yr after alien contact.( S601 SG1: "Redemption, Part 1") ,They copy it from the Goa'uld tech, and got some help from Jonas's Naquadria

personally, i think you've answered the question right here.

earth had help - LOTS of it. working models on several occasions to study, jacob carter became a tok'ra (ok, he probably couldn't pass much on - but with an alliance, something must have been shared,) the planet where kids were used as databanks till they could share knowledge with others (carter learned how to build a naquadah reactor there,) and jonas' folks. they've used wormholes to (accidentally) remove, and later implant, matter into a star - as well as for time travel. i think, at this stage, it would be a bit of a wonder if earth didn't have hyperdrive technology.

on the other hand, you're right - novus has the stargate. the stargate which, remember, leads to planets with no known humanoid life in this galaxy, has a short range (nearby planets only) and which has provided transport as far as the people needed.

eli almost certainly couldn't have known how to make a hyperdrive or FTL engine - his only experience at all being destiny - and the rest, while able to fix destiny's FTL drive, have made it pretty clear that once something's gone, it's gone for good. they don't seem to have the abilities to build such drives.

the first real need to leave the world was around 30 years ago - when the planet started suffering from the rogue black hole that entered their system. before that, they probably didn't even need the gate very much, and the first starships they needed to build were needed after the gate was lost. with only each other for help, no existing technology to copy, and a need to leave the planet ASAP, they didn't have much time to design - from scratch - any kind of FTL.

[escyos]

Even if the original membrs passed on what they knew about hyperdrives, it might have been 300 years before they had capabilities to even make computers let alone get into space.

[Shadow_7]

In real world earth, we've basically gone from prarie tech to space tech in a few hundred years. Granted that we don't have colonies in space (yet). But we don't have stargates either. And it's only been 200 years since we were toting pitch forks and shovels and burning people for being witches. I doubt that the novans started there given that at least half of the crew of Destiny were scientists.

[Keeper]

In real world earth, we've basically gone from prarie tech to space tech in a few hundred years. Granted that we don't have colonies in space (yet). But we don't have stargates either. And it's only been 200 years since we were toting pitch forks and shovels and burning people for being witches. I doubt that the novans started there given that at least half of the crew of Destiny were scientists.

on the other hand, it's 50 years or less since we predicted we'd be interstellar colonists by now, with bases all over our own system as well. where'd we go so far wrong? and that's without the pitchforks and witches too.

[morbosfist]

In real world earth, we've basically gone from prarie tech to space tech in a few hundred years. Granted that we don't have colonies in space (yet). But we don't have stargates either. And it's only been 200 years since we were toting pitch forks and shovels and burning people for being witches. I doubt that the novans started there given that at least half of the crew of Destiny were scientists.

The Novans most assuredly started there. They couldn't have started anywhere else. To develop technology, you need infrastructure. Infrastructure requires resources. Resources require manpower. They had to develop not only the means but the numbers by which to make it possible.

[Daralundy]

Why would they have wanted that? They are only a few milion people. They had a world to expand into. Before the disaster of course.

May be it was a plot device to prevent TJ from getting the ALS cure .
But it is a bit hard to believe the people of Novus doesn't have any FTL or hyperdrive.

Earth can build it's own hyperdive 6yr after alien contact.( S601 SG1: "Redemption, Part 1") ,They copy it from the Goa'uld tech, and got some help from Jonas's Naquadria
it was a partial failure.because Naquadria's instabilities.
Then the X-303;s hyper drive was brought on line with help of NId's goa'uld Adrian Conrad. The Naquadria problem was later fix by a Buffer.
But still the problem remain, until Earth gets hyperdrive from the Asgard .

But still Earth can develop hyper drive on her own in 5 or 6 yr time.and the slowly fixing the Naquadria problem, until switching to more traditional naquadah base Asgard design hyperdrive.

The people of Novus didn't start out from stone age, from the first day , they have a kino with anti gravity.Battery power for the kino to record so much of it's early day.
simple metal tools after a while.
They have understanding to things like Electromagnetism.
And once they have proper tools, they could easily build hot air balloon or wright brothers type flying machine.
They have access to stargate for at least over one thousand and nine hundred seventy yr.They had more than enough time to find naquadah typer material offword.
And the cold war situation on Novus probably give them motivation for advance in science.

Alt Eli and other scientist could have wrtten down formula for hyper drive or FTL drive for the futuure generation.If they don't understand FTL drive , then just could just build hyperdrive.

If the Novus can find cure for ALS 200 yr ago, they probably reach the point with population and infrastructure equal to Earth's 21 centural 200 yr ago.

[RoK]

My guess is that they really didn't need a reason to go into space (FTL mostly) until the disasters started about 30 odd years ago. Until then they most likely traveled off-world via Stargate for resources that they didn't have on the planet, if they needed it.

[garhkal]

And as i mentioned on another thread. Most of those in the SGC who have had experience with making hyperdrives are ON EARTH.. I doubt a one is in the icarus crew.

[thekillman]

plus that earth didn't develop it's own hyperdrive but reverse engineered it.

[Ukko]

From what can remember, didnt our own hyperdrive overload and explode? After that we used an Alkesh one and then Asgard ones. And we use (at least i believe) naquadria to power them. Does that exist in Novus' part of the universe?

We may be able to bodge them together when we've got aliens or their tech to use, but i dont htink we can build them from scratch.

[The Destiny]

I think even current Earth ( real earth, not SG earth ) developing means to travel faster than the speed of light within the next 1000 years is very, very optimistic. The jump from sublight technology to faster than light technology is a hard one, potentially impossible without the use of wormholes or hyperspace ( through which we're still cruising at sublight speeds, we just have a ridiculously smaller distance to go in hyperspace ).