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    Knowledge is power, what its used for is the real motivation. Maybe Rush doesnt care about the safety of the crew because he knows he will be able to reverse time or change things back to the way they were? There is no such thing for a character to merely pursue something so audaciously just so he can know how the universe started, thats not a realistic motivation I think. There is something behind it, some need he has that this mission fulfils.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duneknight View Post
    Knowledge is power, what its used for is the real motivation. Maybe Rush doesnt care about the safety of the crew because he knows he will be able to reverse time or change things back to the way they were? There is no such thing for a character to merely pursue something so audaciously just so he can know how the universe started, thats not a realistic motivation I think. There is something behind it, some need he has that this mission fulfils.
    really? meaning of life just isn't good enough?

    there are many people who don't want or need power.

    he has no idea what he'll get at the end of the road - and of course, if he were to put time back the way it was, then there's no series really.

    knowledge isn't always power - for example, knowing the cd charts or whatever doesn't give power. even if the knowledge rush seeks could lead to power, he's had enough opportunity in his life to go for power without being on destiny - instead, he's working in a public sector job which can't become public knowledge. a good example of what i mean is when carter put herself into (yet another) alternate universe, and contacted mckay to help her get home. he was rich and famous, because he was working private sector. rush knows how to get power... if he wanted it, he wouldn't have wasted so much time on something that may or may not have even worked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by General Jumper One View Post
    they don't need him if they are stranded on a planet, they need him while they are on the ship though
    Only because he is and has been withholding information. The sooner Rush dies the better they'll be in the long run.

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    Rush isn't hiding anything at the moment. He was, but that's past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morrismike View Post
    Only because he is and has been withholding information. The sooner Rush dies the better they'll be in the long run.
    probably not - eli's smart, but he lacks the experience. the rest of the scientists have the experience, but aren't as smart. rush has both in his favour

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    Quote Originally Posted by morbosfist View Post
    Rush isn't hiding anything at the moment. He was, but that's past.
    strapping himself in the chair for a booty call while they were trying to get supplies gated in
    yeah, Rush has nothing to hide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morrismike View Post
    strapping himself in the chair for a booty call while they were trying to get supplies gated in
    yeah, Rush has nothing to hide.
    on her suggestion rather than his own, and there was no indication of malice there

    but c'mon, solo's no fun and he didn't have anyone else judging him for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morrismike View Post
    strapping himself in the chair for a booty call while they were trying to get supplies gated in
    yeah, Rush has nothing to hide.
    "I'm gonna sit in the deadly chair to have sex with the incredibly hot scientist in the ship's computer."

    Even exempting the deadly part, I dare you to work up the nerve to tell someone you plan to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duneknight View Post
    K There is no such thing for a character to merely pursue something so audaciously just so he can know how the universe started, thats not a realistic motivation I think. There is something behind it, some need he has that this mission fulfils.
    I'd do it. I imagine most scientists would. The pursuit of knowledge just for the sake of knowledge is a strong urge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbellosom View Post
    I'd do it. I imagine most scientists would. The pursuit of knowledge just for the sake of knowledge is a strong urge.
    well then you're one dimensional

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duneknight View Post
    well then you're one dimensional
    less than you are - power isn't the only thing that people want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duneknight View Post
    well then you're one dimensional
    So are most scientists then. Not all scientific advances were made to wage war.

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    when the scientists were developing the A-bomb they didn't know they were making a weapon


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    Quote Originally Posted by General Jumper One View Post
    when the scientists were developing the A-bomb they didn't know they were making a weapon
    when nobel invented dynamite, he thought only of the good he could do with it. for him, it wasn't a weapon, it was a tool to help people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keeper View Post
    when nobel invented dynamite, he thought only of the good he could do with it. for him, it wasn't a weapon, it was a tool to help people.
    Rush wants the power to change things or certain things. He is not just seeking info to satisfy his curiosity about the universe. (that goes for plenty of scientist characters btw, its never just about knowledge)

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    The only way we can truly know what Rush wants is to ask him, which we can't, even if we could he probably wouldn't tell us.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Duneknight View Post
    Rush wants the power to change things or certain things. He is not just seeking info to satisfy his curiosity about the universe. (that goes for plenty of scientist characters btw, its never just about knowledge)
    change what? and how? he has no idea what, if any, power lies at the end - but he's curious if there is anything. power or otherwise, he wants to see what's at the end.

    likewise for any other scientist - curiosity will come before power for many. in-show - brody, volker, carter, cavanaugh (ok, he's debatable,) lee (who always seems to get the broken projects to show off at science fairs,) and others.

    daniel jackson, the first person to figure out the stargate, spent his career chasing pyramids as landing pads - despite being ridiculed by his peers. why? because he was curious - not because it gave him any power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by General Jumper One View Post
    The only way we can truly know what Rush wants is to ask him, which we can't, even if we could he probably wouldn't tell us.
    yeah they are trying to keep him all mysterious, like that character in LOST but LOST actually gave more answers throughout than SGU. Because LOST gave its viewers lots of questions and chose to answer them one by one as the show progressed, SGU on the other hand just got one big question and thats what it leans on after 2 seasons and its not gonna answer it till the very end. Also in LOST the characters kept nagging the ones who knew things all the time and they had a good excuse for not revealing things because of the urgency of the situation. But in Destiny they are pretty much camped in the same location and they pretty much leave Rush to his own devices. They don't even ask him what he thinks about the mission. The writers in the early season 2 had volkar and brody seem disinterested in whatever Rush had to say about the signal, obviously to deter the viewers from scolding the characters for not being inquisitive. But they seem to have gotten interested after they choose to stay on destiny in alt reality, so why haven't they asked Rush yet about the mission???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keeper View Post
    change what? and how? he has no idea what, if any, power lies at the end - but he's curious if there is anything. power or otherwise, he wants to see what's at the end.

    likewise for any other scientist - curiosity will come before power for many. in-show - brody, volker, carter, cavanaugh (ok, he's debatable,) lee (who always seems to get the broken projects to show off at science fairs,) and others.

    daniel jackson, the first person to figure out the stargate, spent his career chasing pyramids as landing pads - despite being ridiculed by his peers. why? because he was curious - not because it gave him any power.
    Jackson was being ridiculed for believing in these things, he was seeking proof. He wanted to repair his reputation at first or actually reassure himself that he's not insane. It later became about saving Sharai then went on to realizing the importance of his work in SGC to humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duneknight View Post
    Jackson was being ridiculed for believing in these things, he was seeking proof. He wanted to repair his reputation at first or actually reassure himself that he's not insane. It later became about saving Sharai then went on to realizing the importance of his work in SGC to humanity.
    yet finding proof on earth was an... interesting way to spend his life

    if jackson had never joined the SGC, he knew full well he'd never see the proof of his claims. even when he did find it, through the SGC, he never gained power from it. even though his work has benefited humanity, he can never be recognised for it.

    sha're doesn't come into his seeking the knowledge or work for humanity - his early travels through the gate were for her, but his very first one was about knowledge - which was jackson's primary motivator. sha're distracted him from it for a time, that's all.

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