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    Quote Originally Posted by Crias View Post
    But that was a different circumstance, that machine was designed to jump back in time. A little like Janus’ time machine.
    The difference in circumstance was only that one was a controlled device with the intention of time travel, the other, a freak accident which resulted in time travel. The principles involved in the time travel are similar. In the case of Window of Opportunity, a stargate behaved as a time machine and pulled back in time, everything within a certain area, in this case, it was the region of space contained within the 14 gates that formed a closed network. In Twin Destinies, it was just the Destiny itself that was pulled back. In both cases a stargate or stargates and some form of solar activity played a role in the time travel mechanism.

    How does Janus' time machine apply here? It neither had a stargate or solar activity playing any role in how it traveled through time so I don't see how it connects to Destiny travelling through time.
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    It applies because the jump back in time was intentional and had very little to do with the gate itself, the gate wasn’t the time machine, it was just used to generate a subspace bubble so all the planets within the field could be transported back.

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    Window of Opportunity was a confusing episode as well, every 10 hours the machine would wind back time in a localized area of space, but somehow at the same time leaving a few peoples memory's intact..

    It was one of those episodes that delved so deeply into BS that i actually kind of re-wrote it as i was watching it.. thinking it must just throw someones memory back in time a set amount.. creating an alternate reality to draw memory's from and combine at each circles conclusion. <though admittedly i had to ignore much of what Sam was saying during that episode.

    But Window of Opportunity as it actually was is probably the best explanation we will get for why destiny time traveled, we know the gate can create a subspace field that can expand and engulf entire solar systems and some how cut them off from real time. only the effect of the field was to re-wind or fast-forward time, not to take something and propel it through time...

    it feels like two conflicting mythology's have been smashed together to make this episode.

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    Well that actually makes sense to me. I guess using so much power the subspace field generated by Destinys gate could have swollen and engulfed the entire ship but because the star could only put out so much energy and the ship could only draw on so much power the ship jumped a relatively short time back compared to the wormhole.

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    I loved the episode when Destiny came across "another Destiny"

    one of my all time faves! what a GREAT EPISODE

    to see Rush 1 talking to Rush2, awesome - so cool

    then when they went ONTO Destiny2- EVEN BETTER

    I know in the end Destiny2 went into the sun BUT we know that Destiny can travel through a sun so WAS IT DESTROYED? we didn't see it destroyed

    must say I quietly thought "that will come back" later, hehe

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    Default Re: How did Destiny travel through time?

    look people. at a black hole, Physics break down. Stargates don't work according to any of our physics. the time dilation of a star + an extremely powerful wormhole connection was likely enough + a solar flare caused the team to travel back.


    now remember that an ENORMOUS amount of energy was being pumped in. this is likely the reason why Destiny was allowed to travel back in time. perhaps not unlike a Wormhole Drive.

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    Let me try and explain:
    The reason why Destiny was thrown back in time was due to the fact that it drew ENORMOUS amounts of energy which I can't quantify and they were in a star recharging also powering the gate for one way travel however Rush said 'UNPREDICTABLE' circumstances in side the star. We know that a wormhole produces subspace ruptures in order to transport the object through vacuum, at that precise moment they established the lock it was intercepted by a solar flare which caused it to move back in time. Now using some mathematical equations I will attempt to create a summary of it in simple mathematics. These figures will be made up to fit the situation.
    ~5 km/s x ~500TJ/s(power flow) x 999TJ/s (solar flare) x ~100 tons(mass and guess) x ~50%(state of shields) x ~5M newtons(magnetic pull)= (WHATEVER)
    This equation is somewhat made up of guessing figures
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    As an aside I say the group ( lets call em A ) that travel'd thru time was/are the actual group that started the journey from the Icarus planet at the beginning of the show and the other group ( B ) was the 2nd group, they found the original Dr Rush in a shuttle.
    Therefore I can find closure of the show knowing that group A travel'd back 2000 years and started a civilization that still thrives today ( even though a black hole ate that planet ) Group B are the duplicates that we see in stasis pods at the end of the series.
    Now the writers screwed up having the 1st Destiny and its shuttle appear because the Stargate only sends back thru time the objects ( people, puddle jumper or hand written notes ) that actually go thru the event horizon.

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    oh my god did anybody watch that ep at all,a subspace tear made from passing enrgy though the gate which was not ment to be able to handle that much power ,plues inside of a star you can pretty much take your phiysics books and burn them,take out your Quantum Mechanix book and just skim though it becuase that much power and gravity is unpredictable,for any one,destiny was ment to take in enrgy at a certan rate of speed and level,by trying to pull that much though to the gate would be like seeing how much gas you have with a lit candle,its going to blow up in your face,and was not ment to handle that much,that and the unpredictableness of a solor flare,i mean think about it ,you can fly around the earth fast enugh you can watch yourself leave,its proven that a trip around the earth produced a time lag over a few secs,tear a hole in space while your at it and what do you get ,Quantum Mechanix ,with no hope of reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikebmix View Post
    oh my god did anybody watch that ep at all,a subspace tear made from passing enrgy though the gate which was not ment to be able to handle that much power ,plues inside of a star you can pretty much take your phiysics books and burn them,take out your Quantum Mechanix book and just skim though it becuase that much power and gravity is unpredictable,for any one,destiny was ment to take in enrgy at a certan rate of speed and level,by trying to pull that much though to the gate would be like seeing how much gas you have with a lit candle,its going to blow up in your face,and was not ment to handle that much,that and the unpredictableness of a solor flare,i mean think about it ,you can fly around the earth fast enugh you can watch yourself leave,its proven that a trip around the earth produced a time lag over a few secs,tear a hole in space while your at it and what do you get ,Quantum Mechanix ,with no hope of reason
    You're making my eyes bleed. Use PARAGRAPHS, PROPER CAPITALIZATION, and GRAMMAR.

    Ok, here is the point I want to make...

    Mikebmix does try to get this out in his/her statement, but you have to wonder if the very problem in trying to understand why Destiny went back in time is outside of understanding. The state of space/time itself would be different in or on the surface of a star. From what I understand, it takes light 8 minutes to reach earth, but the light that reaches us is not exactly 8 minutes old. The gravitational pull of the sun truly messes with the speed of light. Once light escapes that pull THEN it begins the 8 minute voyage.

    I guess what I am trying to say is, that if even given values, like the speed of light are skewed in a star, could that not mean that conventional ways of explaining anything while in this location could prove impossible?

    Sorry if I sound like a fool, just trying to grasp an iota of what is going on here.

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    There was obviously a huge energy spike and the wormhole event horizon momentarily expanded to encompass the entire ship and caused timetravel to occur.

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