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    Quote Originally Posted by kirmit View Post
    Yeah but the doctor later says Canton is right and it is a little girl.
    So why would Nixon say it?

    I really doubt it would even be in the dialogue if it weren't relevant someho, unless Nixon had some hearing deficiency in his presidency that is widely known in real life and Moffat was merely giving it a call out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharaoh Hamenthotep View Post
    He replied "Boy" and then waited for what sounds like the child giving their name.. It sounds like he's just making an assumption based on the name. Jefferson isn't a girl's name after all.

    And then The Doctor said it was definitely a girl's voice..
    If that's true then I completely misinterpreted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Admiral Mappalazarou View Post
    So why would Nixon say it?

    I really doubt it would even be in the dialogue if it weren't relevant someho, unless Nixon had some hearing deficiency in his presidency that is widely known in real life and Moffat was merely giving it a call out.
    He assumes it's a boy because of the name. Jefferson Adams Hamilton. And it's relevant because it's how they find the location the girl is calling from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharaoh Hamenthotep View Post
    He assumes it's a boy because of the name. Jefferson Adams Hamilton. And it's relevant because it's how they find the location the girl is calling from.
    Thanks. Understand it better now.

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    Wow oh wow!!!!!! How cool was that!!!!! Shocks and questions aplenty!!!!!!
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    Blimey! Only just saw it thanks to my satellite blinking out three minutes in, but wow!
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    The girl in the spacesuit.... She's clearly not big enough to fill a full size spacesuit. So any ideas about how she was walking in it?

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    I definately think this whole story wont be resolved in next weeks episode, I can see this setting up a whole lot of unanswered questions
    So many funny lines in this episode, ncie to have some laughs in such a dark story
    Also, nice to see River lending a helping hand in the Tardis again

    I dont think Amy is pregnant, because this could be what the Silence wanted Amy to tell the Doctor about and when she came out, she only remembered she had to tell the Doctor something, also we saw River having the same symptoms too
    I think it was just to get Amy away from the rest of the group, so the Silence could have a one on one with her

    I dont think the Silences powers or relevance has been fully revealed, I think Moffat has a lot of tricks up his sleeve for them.
    They are already awesome though, the ability to disintegrate someone, and make you forget about them as soon as you turn away from them. I wonder if their forgetting power works on the Doctor, hes the only one that hasnt seen him yet.
    As someone else has said before me, I wonder how long theyve been around and whether theyve been influencing Earths development as no one would remember them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sealurk View Post
    Blimey! Only just saw it thanks to my satellite blinking out three minutes in, but wow!
    Wow, unlucky!
    I was worried id miss it, I got a cracking strom going on outside and my box was playing up, but it survived through the episode

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    Just going to point out that the machine that might be a TARDIS might not be a TARDIS after all. No one ever says that. What they do notice is that it's bigger on the inside and has a console device, but the Genesis Ark was bigger on the inside and we never saw inside of that. Maybe it had one too. Maybe it's a custom of all bigger-on-the-inside tech.

    With that in mind and Moffat's wonderful ability to refer back to previous episodes . . . It's possible that the Lodger 'TARDIS' may in fact be a prison ship, a broken one from the looks of things, and that the Silence were an enemy in the Time War (perhaps like the Could Have Been King and his army of Never Were's). If they were a great enemy then it would explain two things;

    1) How they managed to somehow control and blow up the TARDIS and . . .

    2) How in one of the Series 6 trailers we hear a voice tell the Doctor: 'Fear me! I've killed hundreds of Time Lords!'

    Of course that's a jump on my part, but I do love speculation after a good ol' DW series opener I missed it!
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    So...wait, has Rory died again? Is he going for the Daniel Jackson record, or has something completely different happened to him? Assuming of course that something actually happened to him since we didn't quite see it on screen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Teddybrown View Post
    Wow, unlucky!
    I was worried id miss it, I got a cracking strom going on outside and my box was playing up, but it survived through the episode
    That must be what took mine out - got some interference, it froze and then just turned itself off after five minutes of doing nothing and not responding to anything. I was not pleased.
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    So they killed the doctor. So what, everyone knows it will be undone by the end of the season or when ever Matt decides to retire from the role. Disappointing really. Would have been better if they recast the Doctor, then it would have been more real.

    An Amy is the cause of the Doctor death as she shot the astronaut, That how it going to turn out.

    Overall a pretty meh. The reports that this was going to be dark was let down, it was no darker than what we saw last season.

    The Silence may an alright enemy but they just did not seem real and they also seemed over hype. I mean all that thunder and lightening to kill a single human being, come on, some one has powerful as they making out the silence to be and they have to put all that effort into killing some lonely secretary.

    Nixon was not to bad, through I would have thought someone in his position would have been well brief on the Doctor anyway, either by UNITE or his own intelligence agency. After all they have got that massive bunker where they store all the Aliens artefacts and so fourth called Area 51.

    Overall a 7, and that being generous. Again the show is let down by not going far enough and being to over the top in many places. There a thing for being a bit subtle every now and again.

    The only thing I really like was the fact that Amy pregnant and the possibility it opening up stories in the future.
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    Okay...now I've had some time to assimilate the awesomeness that is the first part of The Impossible Planet I think I can say what I need to say...THAT. WAS. BRILLIANT!!!! I can see things getting far darker from here on out!!!! I can't wait!!!!!

    I was totally shocked by the Doctor's death within the first few moments of the story. Wow oh wow. So...is the Doctor's eleventh incarnation really his last? Is the Doctor's fate really set and that IS the end? The Doctor dies in America? If so will we see the in-between 200-years of adventures with companions other than Amy and Rory in future series to come? Plenty of questions...look forward to the answers to come.

    Who is that child and how did he end up in that astronaut suit? How did the astronaut end up with such powers so it could kill the Doctor and is it indeed the same child from 1969 only now grown-up in 2011?

    The Time Engine from The Lodger is back...assuming it is the same Time Engine. What is it doing there and does it have links to the Silence?

    The Silence are obviously capable of killing on a whim and find it gives them pleasure and judging by what we learned in the last series they can kill on a massive scale. What and who are the Silence exactly and what are their goals? What do they want Amy to tell the Doctor? Did they mean what she tells him towards the end of Part 1 or do they mean something else altogether?

    Amy's pregnant?! I wish I were the father. Is Rory actually the father?

    Who is River Song? The Doctor first met her in Silence in the Library...but when and how did River first meet the Doctor?

    What's happened to Rory? Have the Silence killed him?

    Lots and lots of questions and we've been left on a hell of a cliffhanger....cannot wait for Part 2 next Saturday to get that resolved and for every story that follows this 2-parter to get the answers!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Admiral Mappalazarou View Post
    Just going to point out that the machine that might be a TARDIS might not be a TARDIS after all. No one ever says that. What they do notice is that it's bigger on the inside and has a console device, but the Genesis Ark was bigger on the inside and we never saw inside of that. Maybe it had one too. Maybe it's a custom of all bigger-on-the-inside tech.

    With that in mind and Moffat's wonderful ability to refer back to previous episodes . . . It's possible that the Lodger 'TARDIS' may in fact be a prison ship, a broken one from the looks of things, and that the Silence were an enemy in the Time War (perhaps like the Could Have Been King and his army of Never Were's). If they were a great enemy then it would explain two things;

    1) How they managed to somehow control and blow up the TARDIS and . . .

    2) How in one of the Series 6 trailers we hear a voice tell the Doctor: 'Fear me! I've killed hundreds of Time Lords!'
    Of course that's a jump on my part, but I do love speculation after a good ol' DW series opener I missed it!
    I dont think they are the voice that says fear me Ive killed hundreds of Time Lords, the voices sounded different to me. Ill have to rewatch the trailer and this episode.

    EDIT: Just rewatched the part with Amy and the Silence in the toilet, and the trailer, and I dont think its the Silence that says the fear me.

    And as for the possibility that Rory could be dead, he doesnt stay dead for long because we see him

    Spoiler:
    in the pictures released with episodes 3 and 7
    Episode 7 picture has him standing infront of the Cybermen in Roman wear and the synopsis for episode 7 mentions him


    I personally dont think Rorys dead.
    We will have to wait and see...

    EDIT: Rorys in the trailer alot so I dont think hes dead...
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    I didn't know it was on today, I thought it was tomorrow.

    BBC iPlayer, here I come.

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    10 minutes in and Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god.
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    You know the man in chains and has a beard in the trailer, is it me or does that look like the Doctor?
    Episode 2 looks awesome!!!

    Heres the trailer
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/dw/videos/p00gk4mb

    And 2 clips
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/dw/videos/p00gk4l1

    Not very spoilery, just explains the markings on them and that they feel sick when they see them.
    Clip 2 makes me think the next episode will be creepier than the first episode

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    1. HMFS! They can't possibly let that come to pass!

    2. What the hell are these creatures exactly?

    3. It explains why Amy and River were seemingly taking charge of the Dr in the trailers.

    4. Why the hell did the Dr invite Canton to his wake? Purely because he was involved with the 1969 incident?

    Certainly an interesting start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt G View Post
    1. HMFS! They can't possibly let that come to pass!

    2. What the hell are these creatures exactly?

    3. It explains why Amy and River were seemingly taking charge of the Dr in the trailers.

    4. Why the hell did the Dr invite Canton to his wake? Purely because he was involved with the 1969 incident?
    Certainly an interesting start.
    Probably to get River, Rory and Amy to go to 1969, and hes involved with the Spaceman

    Also, is it just me or did the Doctor Who site release 2 spoiler photos this morning, heres the link
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    Well...now that I've watched it a couple of times and had time to digest it a bit better (and download it from iPlayer so I don't have to keep waiting for it to buffer), I like it.

    Spoiler:
    The Doctor's death - yeah, that's never going to stick, we all know that, but it's certainly a clever and very well done shock tactic to leave us guessing and get us engaged. I know that I for one entertained the possibility that it was a shock regeneration and we'd be introduced to the/a Twelfth Doctor...but only for about three seconds.

    Why is the Doctor two hundred years older? Where was 'old' Eleven's TARDIS left after he was shot and killed mid-regeneration?

    The Silence/Silents...interesting. Their pseudo-perception filter ability is very interesting and typical of Moffat's genius. I wonder though if Joy and Rory are actually dead, or if the Silence are necessarily evil - at least all of them. Why was one of them so keen to catch Amy's attention and talk to her? Could they in fact need the Doctor's help? The Moff is unusually good at misdirection, so could the fact that everybody is reacting negatively to these creatures without actually knowing anything about them another instance of that?

    Nixon...eh. Not remotely convincing, sorry. From all the photos and stock footage I've seen, he just doesn't seem to resemble him that well.

    Mark Sheppard, always good. Badger, Romo Lampkin, and so far I think Canton Everett Delaware III is my favourite.

    New TARDIS abilities? Has the TARDIS been invisible or landed silently before (other than River's VWORP-less landing in Time of Angels...)?

    Is Amy really pregnant?
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    Great start, but I felt it started to slow down towards the end. Loved the dialogue though. I'll be using spoilers until it airs in the US even if someone of them happened to fall on their keyboard and it appears on their screen like magic.

    Spoiler:
    "I got in here with a big blue box, three friends, do you think you can just shoot me"
    "THEY'RE AMERICANS"
    "oh god, don't shoot, don't shoot".

    Amy's pregnancy was a bit predictable, instantly thought of it she started to feel sick. I thought I may have been wrong the same feeling happened to River but I felt I was probably right.

    The little girl Astronaut was interesting, but I think ending using Amy taking a shot at her was a bad way to end the episode, as we saw River do it earlier in the episode with no effect. What I really did love was River talking about how she and the Doctor keep going backwards, and that eventually she'd meet him and he wouldn't know her, which would kill her. She of course meant emotionally kill her, but the fact she dies physically was a great reference to the Library.
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