Non "Starfleet" Trek?

[Gatefan1976]

Just out of curiosity for the Trekkies here.
Would you be at all interested in a "non-starfleet" series set in the Trekverse?
Say, a S31 series or Orion syndicate series or whatever?
Thoughts anyone?

[DigiFluid]

Could be interesting, but I think it falls quite outside of what Star Trek is.

[SaberBlade]

I've always thought that non-Starfleet Trek should be done as mini-series. Think the final season of Enterprise but with non related 2 or 3 part episodes. Klingon one episode, Romulans the next, an Arms smuggler, so on.

[Gatefan1976]

I've always thought that non-Starfleet Trek should be done as mini-series. Think the final season of Enterprise but with non related 2 or 3 part episodes. Klingon one episode, Romulans the next, an Arms smuggler, so on.

Which time period though? ENT and TOS might be a bit early as they are more "wild west" (though that could work in thier favor), and TNG/DS9/VOY might be too "jarring" as the Federation is more "established".

[jelgate]

I'm not opposed to it but I think the premise wouldn't sell to the people outside of fandom. Their is a reason most science fiction shows have a least one human character

[Jeffala]

24...In Space? No thanks, to a Section 31 series.

Instead of a regular series, I'd rather see miniseries that explored pivotal moments in the past, like The Lost Era novels. Some of those would be great miniseries.

[Gatefan1976]

24...In Space? No thanks, to a Section 31 series.

Instead of a regular series, I'd rather see miniseries that explored pivotal moments in the past, like The Lost Era novels. Some of those would be great miniseries.

The S31 example was merely that, an example, not a suggestion of what would be good.
Your example however sounds like a "origins" type thing (a la X-men), Could make for a interesting series of "fan movies", but does the "background" of trek have the power to make it a viable series? (movie or mini). At this stage I think Trek needs another series to boot something like that up.

[nx01a]

I've always been interested in seeing how people not in Starfleet got by in the Trek universe. We've seen the settlers in the DMZ take things into their own hands to defend themselves. It might be nice to see more people just trying to survive the Borg attacks and plagues and famines that seem to be constantly threatening everyone in Star Trek.

I've also been fascinated with the perspective of people who used to be Starfleet but left for some reason. Again, some members of the Maquis spring to mind [Chakotay, etc.]. How would they make their way?

[Cold Fuzz]

I've always been interested in seeing how people not in Starfleet got by in the Trek universe. We've seen the settlers in the DMZ take things into their own hands to defend themselves. It might be nice to see more people just trying to survive the Borg attacks and plagues and famines that seem to be constantly threatening everyone in Star Trek.

I've also been fascinated with the perspective of people who used to be Starfleet but left for some reason. Again, some members of the Maquis spring to mind [Chakotay, etc.]. How would they make their way?

Very good questions. The Federation is supposed to be virtually moneyless so I'm guessing that someone like Chakotay, Paris, Ro, and others like them could work as private security or as mercenaries for non-Federation governments. As to how Federation citizens go about their business with a rather high quality of life with a moneyless economy... well that always seemed rather implausible to me.

Edit: I suppose that's one of the reasons why I liked DS9 the best. It avoided all that by having Bajor, the Ferengi, the Cardassians, the Klingons and the Dominion with real functional economies.

[Gatefan1976]

Very good questions. The Federation is supposed to be virtually moneyless so I'm guessing that someone like Chakotay, Paris, Ro, and others like them could work as private security or as mercenaries for non-Federation governments. As to how Federation citizens go about their business with a rather high quality of life with a moneyless economy... well that always seemed rather implausible to me.

Edit: I suppose that's one of the reasons why I liked DS9 the best. It avoided all that by having Bajor, the Ferengi, the Cardassians, the Klingons and the Dominion with real functional economies.

Just a note on the economy, Trek does have an economy (Federation credits), it is just pretty much unused by Starfleet as it really doesn't need them to fuction as an entity.

[maneth]

Hmmm. I'm not so sure this would fly. Starfleet is pretty much the Federation as we know it.

[SaberBlade]

Which time period though? ENT and TOS might be a bit early as they are more "wild west" (though that could work in thier favor), and TNG/DS9/VOY might be too "jarring" as the Federation is more "established".

Any period at all. My first guess choice about the "real" time of the Federation. Since Voyager ended in 2001 (Trek Calender 2378) I'd say doing something in 2388 would be a good start (with the year adjusted for whatever year it happens to be when filmed). It would be nice for the Trekverse to retcon the destruction of Romulus, see how the Klingon Empire is now after it should have recovered from the war, the return of Sisko (but focused on his role of Emissary on Bajor rather than as a Starfleet Captain).

[Galactic Hitchhiker]

*SHUDDER* worst case scenario..: it'll be young and the restless/bold and the beautiful.. in space..

[Aerilon]

Could be interesting, but I think it falls quite outside of what Star Trek is.

This. Star Trek is about humanities reach for the stars, to produce a show on another species wouldn't really be 'Star Trek'.

[the Fifth Race]

Just out of curiosity for the Trekkies here.
Would you be at all interested in a "non-starfleet" series set in the Trekverse?
Say, a S31 series or Orion syndicate series or whatever?
Thoughts anyone?

I have always liked the idea of a Non-Starfleet in the Trek Universe based show. I'm not sure it would fly, but if they did it in a mini-series type format (like brother SaberBlade suggested), I think it just might be popular enough to be successful.

How about an all Klingon show - they are already well-established in Trek lore, and there people, customs, politics and society offer an incredibly deep and rich, not to mention quite colorful canvas to work with.

[nx01a]

How about a group of settlers who decide to leave the Federation for some reason and take a ship or convoy of ships into uncharted space to find a new home? We'd have the unknown, new races, cool battles... and a little hint of BSG.

[Cold Fuzz]

How about a group of settlers who decide to leave the Federation for some reason and take a ship or convoy of ships into uncharted space to find a new home? We'd have the unknown, new races, cool battles... and a little hint of BSG.

That sounds reminiscent of those Klingons who left the Empire and headed over to the Delta Quadrant in VOY. It's a premise that has lots of possibilities.

[nx01a]

Or explorers whose areas of study won't be supported by the Federations. A bit like those ill-fated Hansens, a rogue ship of scientific exploration sets out to discover... something. Wait. No. That's kinda SGU. Or rogue explorers steal a Federation starship and take it into the unknown to investigate a potential threat to the galaxy/existence as we know it. The Federation sends another ship to bring them back. Exploration and a game of cat and mouse ensues across star systems. Starfleet, being wrong about the very real threat, can be the 'bad' guys for once.

[Gatefan1976]

Or explorers whose areas of study won't be supported by the Federations. A bit like those ill-fated Hansens, a rogue ship of scientific exploration sets out to discover... something. Wait. No. That's kinda SGU. Or rogue explorers steal a Federation starship and take it into the unknown to investigate a potential threat to the galaxy/existence as we know it. The Federation sends another ship to bring them back. Exploration and a game of cat and mouse ensues across star systems. Starfleet, being wrong about the very real threat, can be the 'bad' guys for once.

"Starfleet" as an entity was the "bad guys" in "Insurection" (no matter what you think of the movie)