How did the Seed Ships gather the materials for the gates?

[sgc]

I was just thinking about gate seeding while watching Tabula Rasa, and I wondered how the ships gathered the gate materials and other base elements to build the gates. Obviously they go to the planets, but what do they do from there?

Do they land and mine it, beam it up from space, enslave the inhabitants to mine it and ring it aboard?

Does anyone else have any ideas?

[webxro]

How about the got their naq from asteroids , by mining it with robots .

[escyos]

OR using other compounds and elements to make it themselves, maybe thats why the gates have a limited range - inferior naquadah.

[sgc]

OR using other compounds and elements to make it themselves, maybe thats why the gates have a limited range - inferior naquadah.

Well still, how do they get those materials?

[escyos]

Well still, how do they get those materials?

theres a lot of junk floating around space, particualrly gases like hydrogen, nitrogen, helium etc and material such as carbon, iron, etc im sure theres plenty to be found.

[sgc]

theres a lot of junk floating around space, particualrly gases like hydrogen, nitrogen, helium etc and material such as carbon, iron, etc im sure theres plenty to be found.

But how do the ships mine it, get it aboard the ship, and turn it into stargates?

[lordofseas]

Magnets.

[escyos]

But how do the ships mine it, get it aboard the ship, and turn it into stargates?

giant holes in the ship, i dont know

[Dii-Reno]

They sent Arnold out to mine it.

[garhkal]

OR using other compounds and elements to make it themselves, maybe thats why the gates have a limited range - inferior naquadah.

Or maybe they don't even have naquida in them.

[sgc]

Or maybe they don't even have naquida in them.

Even if they don't have naquadah in them, how do the ships get the materials?

[escyos]

Even if they don't have naquadah in them, how do the ships get the materials?

We don't know and probably never will.

[Chevron999]

It stops inside a star and starts to scoop up hydrogen and helium. Then it's fusion generators creats naquada, or some other useable material, and whatever tech is used inside the V:1.0 gates. Wether it be crystal tech og wires and chips.... (Leaning towards the later, as it would seem to be easier to make... Remember Orlin's gate much?)

[sgc]

It would be crystal tech. You can't just turn hydrogen into naquadah, but you can use matter-conversion tech, but I think that was beyond their level of tech at that point.

[Lord Phantasm]

I was just thinking about gate seeding while watching Tabula Rasa, and I wondered how the ships gathered the gate materials and other base elements to build the gates. Obviously they go to the planets, but what do they do from there?

Do they land and mine it, beam it up from space, enslave the inhabitants to mine it and ring it aboard?

Does anyone else have any ideas?

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]SGC, I believe the answer to your question lies in the Ancients shown and, proven ability to create artificial intelligence and interface with it...Like Replicators or the “chair” device (both Destiny and Atlantis versions).

Remember the episode in SGA when the wraith scientist successfully interfaced with that Ancient warship, Aurora, I think?? How about when Rush discovered the ships bridge and was communicating with both Franklin and his wife on separate occasions...Well, was he hallucinating or actually interacting with the Destiny’s artificial intelligence/consciousness?? By the way, remember in season 2 episode “Sabotage” when Franklin sits in the chair then disappears...Where did he go? Who’s to say his consciousness isn’t alive and well somewhere within the ships intelligence (Remember Thor did it in SG-1 episode “Descent”).

If we all remember the SGU season 1 episodes “Faith” and then “Sabotage,” the team discovered those mechanical, spider like drones. They even put them to work in repairing the ships “FTL” drives as well. What if these drones transported to a planet’s surface somehow, then mined the materials? I mean, just look at the rover’s humanity is currently sending to Mars...Which bring back samples of rock and Martian surface material the like. Just look at how the SG-1 replicator's were able to consume raw materials, like Asgard ships, then literally produced more replicators. So, these drones probably “mine” but, how do the stargates get manufactured??

Well, remember in the SG-1 episode “New Order” when Thor was able to synthesize the anti-replicator weapon ala Star Trek “replicator” style...I don’t know about you, but the cargo room onboard the seeder ship looked the size o' warehouse or of an airplane hangar...It had dozens of orders of stargates completed, and ready for deployment.

Look, all I’m suggesting is that just maybe the Seeder ships and Destiny are a lot more intelligent than we know? Thor was able to synthesize the weapon with the Ancients knowledge, so it’s logical to assume that as long as the material is available and mined, then both the ships "intelligence” and technology are surely capable in manufacturing and, seeding stragates, yes?!

I do hope this helps?


Cheers!

[sgc]

Spoiler:

]SGC, I believe the answer to your question lies in the Ancients shown and, proven ability to create artificial intelligence and interface with it...Like Replicators or the “chair” device (both Destiny and Atlantis versions).

Remember the episode in SGA when the wraith scientist successfully interfaced with that Ancient warship, Aurora, I think?? How about when Rush discovered the ships bridge and was communicating with both Franklin and his wife on separate occasions...Well, was he hallucinating or actually interacting with the Destiny’s artificial intelligence/consciousness?? By the way, remember in season 2 episode “Sabotage” when Franklin sits in the chair then disappears...Where did he go? Who’s to say his consciousness isn’t alive and well somewhere within the ships intelligence (Remember Thor did it in SG-1 episode “Descent”).

If we all remember the SGU season 1 episodes “Faith” and then “Sabotage,” the team discovered those mechanical, spider like drones. They even put them to work in repairing the ships “FTL” drives as well. What if these drones transported to a planet’s surface somehow, then mined the materials? I mean, just look at the rover’s humanity is currently sending to Mars...Which bring back samples of rock and Martian surface material the like. Just look at how the SG-1 replicator's were able to consume raw materials, like Asgard ships, then literally produced more replicators. So, these drones probably “mine” but, how do the stargates get manufactured??

Well, remember in the SG-1 episode “New Order” when Thor was able to synthesize the anti-replicator weapon ala Star Trek “replicator” style...I don’t know about you, but the cargo room onboard the seeder ship looked the size o' warehouse or of an airplane hangar...It had dozens of orders of stargates completed, and ready for deployment.

Look, all I’m suggesting is that just maybe the Seeder ships and Destiny are a lot more intelligent than we know? Thor was able to synthesize the weapon with the Ancients knowledge, so it’s logical to assume that as long as the material is available and mined, then both the ships "intelligence” and technology are surely capable in manufacturing and, seeding stragates, yes?!

I do hope this helps?


Cheers!

Thanks! That was very insightful. Tip: you don't need to use whitespace if you have spoiler tags. Next time, do a **speculation and spoilers SGU all past episodes**

Spoiler:

blablabla

tag to make it easier on yourself, and btw: Welcome to GateWorld!

[blazingfire]

My theory on why the gates are inferior is that there's no DHD (cold fusion reactor) to power the gate, only a tiny mobile one, so maybe it draws energy from the sun but they provide less energy to dial all gates in the galaxy? Speculation, I know but we'll probably never know why...

On the OP's question, I think it would be based on naquadah if possible or another strong superconductor. You can't find naquadah everywhere in the universe, take our solar system for example.

[sgc]

My theory on why the gates are inferior is that there's no DHD (cold fusion reactor) to power the gate, only a tiny mobile one, so maybe it draws energy from the sun but they provide less energy to dial all gates in the galaxy? Speculation, I know but we'll probably never know why...

On the OP's question, I think it would be based on naquadah if possible or another strong superconductor. You can't find naquadah everywhere in the universe, take our solar system for example.

I agree. They might go into the naquadah thing more, but also they noted in SG-1 that it was rare not to have naquadah. Maybe we are wrong and that the Ancients just used all of it up?

[blazingfire]

Considering how many gates we'd seen, probably yes lol

[Lord Phantasm]

Thanks! That was very insightful. Tip: you don't need to use whitespace if you have spoiler tags. Next time, do a **speculation and spoilers SGU all past episodes**

Spoiler:

blablabla

tag to make it easier on yourself, and btw: Welcome to GateWorld!

You are welcome, SGC. And thanks for the tip and advice on how to use the "spoiler" tags. I'm just covering all bases until I get the hang of it here. I'd hate to ruin plot details for those who have not watched quite yet.

Oh, and I almost forgot to mention the SG-1 season 4, episode 9 "Scorched Earth," which is the closest living example of an on air episode, which may show clues as to how the Ancients did it. You can read the episode summary and analysis in gateworlds 'episode' section, or if you can find the video then I strongly recommend watching it.


Again, Hope This Helps


Cheers!