Gate technology

[LordAten]

OK so this is a stargate

In what ever galaxies SGU takes place in the stargates have a limited rang right? But in the Ori galaxy the gate's have the normal rage ∞ (like). The gates in the ori galaxy pre-date the gates in that are in the SGU galaxies. How dose this work people? Shame on you SGU writers.


P.S correct me if i'm wrong

[Jago]

From what I remember, Stargate has always established that the gates have limited ranges (which is where the whole 9th chevron thing came from). Maybe I am not following.. What do you mean exactly?

[LordAten]

What I mean is that pegasus, Milky Way, and the Ori galaxy gates could dial any where with in there galaxy without massive power requirements. Yet in SGU the gate can only dial with in so many light-years (distance).

[escyos]

Destiny style gates are limited in range meaning they can only dial a handful of gates in range while other gates in the MW, peg, etc can dial across the galaxy (and further)

As far as we know the ONLY gate in the Ori galaxy is the Supergate, which was built with ascended knowledge.

[webxro]

And the gate that the prior used to get here

[morbosfist]

There's also no telling when the Ori gates were built. They may have done it after the Ancients ascended.

[Brian N]

The Ori gates were probably built when the Ori learned of our galaxy.

[escyos]

And the gate that the prior used to get here

we have no idea how he got there, ther was no mention of a gate.

[Dii-Reno]

There is a reason it's called the "Ori" galaxy. Ori are evil ascended beings. They have the knowledge of the universe in their cosmic heads. If they wanted a galaxy full of top notch stargates, they could snap their fingers and make it happen.

[escyos]

There is a reason it's called the "Ori" galaxy. Ori are evil ascended beings. They have the knowledge of the universe in their cosmic heads. If they wanted a galaxy full of top notch stargates, they could snap their fingers and make it happen.

1. Ascension does NOT make you all knowing or all powerful
2. As I said, we have never seen nor heard a mention at the Regular sized Stargates in the Ori galaxy, therefore there is none. (By your logic, I can say that just because we never saw of or heard of a Goa'uld named Geb (Egyptian god of the Earth) that he did exist, yes chances are he did because many of the goa'uld had names of Egyptian gods, but we never did therefore such as character does NOT exist)

[morbosfist]

The Priors are being sent through the Stargates in the early episodes, which means they must have an equivalent device on the Ori end. Also, Adria clearly had intricate knowledge of how to operate the Stargates, so that knowledge is clearly a package deal with Ascension. Ascension doesn't make you all knowing, but Daniel himself admits that it does give you way more knowledge of the universe.

[Zed.P.M.]

OK so this is a stargate

In what ever galaxies SGU takes place in the stargates have a limited rang right? But in the Ori galaxy the gate's have the normal rage ∞ (like). The gates in the ori galaxy pre-date the gates in that are in the SGU galaxies. How dose this work people? Shame on you SGU writers.


P.S correct me if i'm wrong

You are wrong. But hey, any excuse to bash the writers, right?

The stargate wasn't even invented anywhere until after the Ancients left their home galaxy in Ark of Truth. It existed only as a concept and in sketches in Amelius' note pad as the Ancients were departing. Maybe as the Ori continued to evolve, they too invented their own stargates. We know they had transport rings, after all. Or maybe once they ascended, they then instructed the second evolution of humans in that galaxy to build stargates and rings.

we have no idea how he got there, ther was no mention of a gate.

Except for the scene(s) where a Prior WALKS THROUGH A STARGATE...

[escyos]

You are wrong. But hey, any excuse to bash the writers, right?

The stargate wasn't even invented anywhere until after the Ancients left their home galaxy in Ark of Truth. It existed only as a concept and in sketches in Amelius' note pad as the Ancients were departing. Maybe as the Ori continued to evolve, they too invented their own stargates. We know they had transport rings, after all. Or maybe once they ascended, they then instructed the second evolution of humans in that galaxy to build stargates and rings.


Except for the scene(s) where a Prior WALKS THROUGH A STARGATE...

maybe the ori simply created a wormhole that connected to a Stargate. or sent him to a location near the milky way and was given a ship to get him in and then used the gate to get around. As i said, you are all assuming that the gates exist, yes they possibly do, but until we hear otherwise, saying there is is ABSOLUTELY WRONG!

[escyos]

The Priors are being sent through the Stargates in the early episodes, which means they must have an equivalent device on the Ori end. Also, Adria clearly had intricate knowledge of how to operate the Stargates, so that knowledge is clearly a package deal with Ascension. Ascension doesn't make you all knowing, but Daniel himself admits that it does give you way more knowledge of the universe.

perhaps Stargates are relatively simple in the grand scheme of things, so the knowledge is easy to understand. and she didn't technically have "intricate knowledge" she simply used her powers to get the gate to dial the last address.

[JackHarkness_Hot]

Well the Supergate is a normal gate design, magnified a thousand times and powered by a blackhole.

I believe Ori has their own Stargates too, as they were part of the same race as the Ancients, something tells me the Ori gates are similar in style as MW gates.

Destiny gates are of simpler design so are not capable of connecting to gates that are further afield, compared to "newer" ones like the MW/PG. However, it appears, they are still capable of receiving connections from newer gates billions of light years away.

I wonder, would Destiny's gate be able to dial home, if they had a ZPM attached (assuming compatibility) or utilising a blackhole (assuming these gates are able to absorb the power from blackholes like it's newer counterparts).

[escyos]

Well the Supergate is a normal gate design, magnified a thousand times and powered by a blackhole.

its made of several segments and is powered by a blackhole. how is that a "normal gate design".

perhaps when the Ori learned of our existance they learned of the Stargates and THEN build the supergate. But saying that they had gates because the ancients did is NO indication that the Ori had stargates and until we hear otherwise they did NOT.

Now, I am going to ask on JM's blog if they did, if he says something like "yes it makes sense that they would" THEN i will drop this.

[Justin1693]

As i said, you are all assuming that the gates exist, yes they possibly do, but until we hear otherwise, saying there is is ABSOLUTELY WRONG!

So by this logic, saying there are not is absolutely wrong? If we've no proof that there are gates, that doesn't mean that saying there are is wrong. The Ori have to have a normal Stargate for the following to be possible:

Spoiler:

[garhkal]

Maybe they gleaned all the info from daniels head (inc his hidden ancient knowledge that oma let him keep) which is where they made gates from, and gave the prior's the power to make them quick like..

[Nth Chevron]

I sense the mod stick appearing soon.

As we have hypothesied a few times, the Ori gave the Alterans the plague which wiped some of them out and forced the rest to flee to Pegasus, it could be that that is when the Ori discovered the Stargate designs and from there they could extrapolate and build the Supergates.

As for the SGU gates, because Destiny was launched so long ago (est. 60 million years) the gate tech was limited in range because that was the limit of Alteran RnD into them. As i believe, the gates were also limited to prevent possibly hostile species reverse engineering them and using them against the Alterans and gaining access to the MW and any other galaxy Destiny had visited.

A note worthy of mention, the MK 2 and MK 3 stargates (MW and Pegasus) do NOT have infinite range, they're range is limited by power which has been our achilles heel when dealing with stargates and distance.

I believe the only truly infinite range Stargate is the Supergate's or a Stargate powered by a black hole, but that would depend on the distance to the edge of the possible universe and if the distance was so great that the output of a single blackhole could not provide enough power to make a connection.

N.C

[Trinary]

The Ori supergate is the most current and most advanced than the rest. When Daniel Jackson had first contact with the Ori, they fetch the knowledge while scanning his head and then built the new mother ship and supergate. Pretty much a mixed technology that Daniel Jackson has encounter during gate travel.