What I don't Understand

[ussrelativity]

What I can't figure out is how simeon was unguarded. How a year later they still only have TWO working space suits. And how a ship the size of a large city has virtually nothing in it to help the occupants live productive lives. Showers and beds? No library, gift shop, arcarde, day care, sporting arena? Or how a ship that's supposed to undertake a million plus year journey doesn't automatically repair itself. i.e. Just the one robot?

It hasn't been a year yet.

From 1x01 to 2x10, it will have only been ten months. JM has stated this.

[Evoke]

Space is very big, and they might not have been able to shut off the counter. Plus, with the ship moving like that, it'd be hard to get the Kino to them without the ship batting it aside during its spin.

If Eli could calculate the time of the jump I'm sure he'd be able to calculate the time the keno left as well - lol

[morbosfist]

There's a difference between having an object jump from the ship and sending one to it. Eli just has to tell them when to jump and they do the work. It's easy. Flying a Kino into a tiny hole that's moving is a much more difficult prospect.

[garhkal]

Plus who knows how long doing that would have taken.

[Ian-S]

And how a ship the size of a large city has virtually nothing in it to help the occupants live productive lives. Showers and beds? No library, gift shop, arcarde, day care, sporting arena?

best quote of the thread, you had me in stitches for 5 minutes.

[hart37]

The thing I don't understand is how everyone's clothes haven't been ruined in 10 months of constant wear and tear, not to mention how much they would all stink yet no-one notices it.

[morbosfist]

The thing I don't understand is how everyone's clothes haven't been ruined in 10 months of constant wear and tear, not to mention how much they would all stink yet no-one notices it.

They have showers, maybe they wash the clothes in them, too.

[hart37]

They have showers, maybe they wash the clothes in them, too.

Okay that seems like a reasonable assumption

[Nth Chevron]

We know that Young's socks seem to be taking the brunt of the clothing wear and tear alone

Now if only the person wearing them was as tough as his socks ..

N.C

[Steelbox]

They have showers, maybe they wash the clothes in them, too.

Show us a wire where they hung them clothes to dry, please Joe.

[Nth Chevron]

How about a bit of string wall to wall and the clothes draped over the wire?

For Sci-fi fans, some of you have seriously narrow minds and piss poor imagination

N.C

[xxxevilgrinxxx]

How about a bit of string wall to wall and the clothes draped over the wire?

For Sci-fi fans, some of you have seriously narrow minds and piss poor imagination

N.C

I believe that one of the first episodes in season one, when they're checking rooms for missing supplies, shows socks and stuff hung on a line.

I don't think we have to see every single thing to know that they are there. People are going to the bathroom. They're washing their hair. Someone's peeling potatoes. Someone's washing pans. It happens, but we don't need to see it.

[droid327]

I found it a little implausible that "calculations" were needed to make the jump...it was obviously just a case of them wanting to include "Eli saves the day with Math!"

Once the ship's drive cuts out, it "goes ballistic" like they say. Assuming its mass is internally static (nothing sloshing around), which I think is fair, it should be rotating about its center of mass, no "wobbles" or anything that they talked about. An object thrown off of a rotating body will proceed on a trajectory tangential to the rotation at the moment of release - so all Eli had to do is wait until the airlock was just coming into view of Destiny, then fire away!

What they did NOT mention was any effects of the artificial gravity well on the derelict ship, which would have affected the trajectory in a very unpredictable way without knowing its exact parameters.

[morbosfist]

I found it a little implausible that "calculations" were needed to make the jump...it was obviously just a case of them wanting to include "Eli saves the day with Math!"

Once the ship's drive cuts out, it "goes ballistic" like they say. Assuming its mass is internally static (nothing sloshing around), which I think is fair, it should be rotating about its center of mass, no "wobbles" or anything that they talked about. An object thrown off of a rotating body will proceed on a trajectory tangential to the rotation at the moment of release - so all Eli had to do is wait until the airlock was just coming into view of Destiny, then fire away!

What they did NOT mention was any effects of the artificial gravity well on the derelict ship, which would have affected the trajectory in a very unpredictable way without knowing its exact parameters.

The ship wasn't just spinning, it was wobbling, so it would take more than just jumping when you could see the hole.

[xxxevilgrinxxx]

I found it a little implausible that "calculations" were needed to make the jump...it was obviously just a case of them wanting to include "Eli saves the day with Math!"

Once the ship's drive cuts out, it "goes ballistic" like they say. Assuming its mass is internally static (nothing sloshing around), which I think is fair, it should be rotating about its center of mass, no "wobbles" or anything that they talked about. An object thrown off of a rotating body will proceed on a trajectory tangential to the rotation at the moment of release - so all Eli had to do is wait until the airlock was just coming into view of Destiny, then fire away!

What they did NOT mention was any effects of the artificial gravity well on the derelict ship, which would have affected the trajectory in a very unpredictable way without knowing its exact parameters.

well, it did get knocked around by Destiny's nose as Perry was coming in, so it wouldn't be as neat and clean as just rotating, something I'm sure both Rush and Young could have managed on their own.

[droid327]

well, it did get knocked around by Destiny's nose as Perry was coming in, so it wouldn't be as neat and clean as just rotating, something I'm sure both Rush and Young could have managed on their own.

Doesnt matter, a static-mass object will only have two axes of motion: about its center of gravity (rotation) and the linear motion of an object as a whole, which Destiny was already matching. Or, in other terms, linear momentum and angular momentum. When the Destiny bumped the derelict, it might have changed the angle of rotation and its rotation speed, but it could not induce any complex "wobbles" (again, unless you want to talk about interfering gravity fields or something, I guess)

From the frame of view of the derelict, Destiny would just appear to orbit around it in a circle. It wasnt rotating nearly fast enough for precession to make a noticeable difference, and unless it was venting significant atmosphere or still had drive sections active, it would not wobble.

Its not even a big deal per se, except that they didnt even need to mention "wobbles" in the first place, the story would have advanced just the same if they had left that line out. Wonky science in sci-fi shows I can forgive when its necessary for the story, but its a lot harder to ignore it when they stick in bad science (and elementary Newtonian physics, at that) just because they wanted to sound more 'sciencey', but couldnt be bothered to check their facts.

[geddarkstorm]

Doesnt matter, a static-mass object will only have two axes of motion: about its center of gravity (rotation) and the linear motion of an object as a whole, which Destiny was already matching. Or, in other terms, linear momentum and angular momentum. When the Destiny bumped the derelict, it might have changed the angle of rotation and its rotation speed, but it could not induce any complex "wobbles" (again, unless you want to talk about interfering gravity fields or something, I guess)

From the frame of view of the derelict, Destiny would just appear to orbit around it in a circle. It wasnt rotating nearly fast enough for precession to make a noticeable difference, and unless it was venting significant atmosphere or still had drive sections active, it would not wobble.

Its not even a big deal per se, except that they didnt even need to mention "wobbles" in the first place, the story would have advanced just the same if they had left that line out. Wonky science in sci-fi shows I can forgive when its necessary for the story, but its a lot harder to ignore it when they stick in bad science (and elementary Newtonian physics, at that) just because they wanted to sound more 'sciencey', but couldnt be bothered to check their facts.

Tell that to asteroids in real life. They often have complex rotations while being solid, static masses. Why? Because the object isn't a perfect sphere and the center of gravity isn't in the "center", but off to one side or another. So, often the axis of rotation itself rotates around an imaginary axis. That's what a wobble is.

And even if it was just one axis, you'd still have to calculate it. Why? Because you can't jump too early and hit Destiny too hard and thus bounce off. And you can't jump too late and miss it altogether. You have to come at the right angle to be able to land and attach. Real life physics is way, WAY more complex than one learns in text books at even college level.

[xxxevilgrinxxx]

Tell that to asteroids in real life. They often have complex rotations while being solid, static masses. Why? Because the object isn't a perfect sphere and the center of gravity isn't in the "center", but off to one side or another. So, often the axis of rotation itself rotates around an imaginary axis. That's what a wobble is.

And even if it was just one axis, you'd still have to calculate it. Why? Because you can't jump too early and hit Destiny too hard and thus bounce off. And you can't jump too late and miss it altogether. You have to come at the right angle to be able to land and attach. Real life physics is way, WAY more complex than one learns in text books at even college level.

^^this
real life is crazy

[Mr.Xcelent]

As far as the ship suits and droid, don't forget they have yet to check the ships Inventory manifest. I highly doubt they would only pack one droid to repair that whole ship. Same with the suits. I'm wondering when every one will start looking for labs in there respective fields. I can't see Vookner finding the Astrometric Lab and try to play navigator. Or Broody with an engineering lab so he can work better ( and away from the still, lol). Or give Rush a real alien tech reasearch lab for any thing they find. TJ getting better med tech. But I guest that would be in season 3.