2 episodes in a row with no Stargate action

[James71]

Has anyone noticed that we have a lot of episodes with absolutely zero Stargate action?

Trial and Error had nothing to do with the Stargate. Now the same with The Greater Good.
The same can be said about Awakening and Pathogen.

So out of 7 episodes so far this season, 4 of them had zero Stargate action in them.

Don't get me wrong, I like SGU. But they seem to be drifting too far away from their roots. SGA and SG1 had the occasional episode with no Stargate action. But I doubt they ever went over 50% of the episodes like SGU is doing.

[Oreol]

In Awakening, there was a failed attempt to dial Earth. Also, we saw a Stargate factory.

But they seem to be drifting too far away from their roots.

Yep, in order to enhance the mythology. After 15 years the franchise is much more than the idea behind the gates.

[Egle01]

If you must compare, then SGU is still more stargate-y (you may want to notice the little "s") than previous series were in latest seasons. So far, there's been gate used in "Intervention", "Aftermath", "Pathogen" (how awesome was that!) and

Spoiler:

next week's "Malice".

Looks good to me.

[The Destiny]

It's in the title, but not required to be in most episodes.

We could do with some normal gating though.

Although I took a look at SGA season 5, and roughly half of those didn't include gating either
( The seed, The daedalus variations, Ghost in the machine ( except the very very very end ) , The queen, First contact ( exploding gate excluded ) , The lost tribe, The prodigal, ( only to allow the baddies in ) Remnants, Brain storm, Infection, Vegas )

I guess in SGU, adventure comes to you.

Like in Awakenings

Spoiler:

Destiny brings them to the seedership

And in The greater good

Spoiler:

Destiny brings them to the alien ship

The "planet of the week" thing still has to settle in with SGU, however I don't think noone is happy either way because most people complain calling all episodes between the pivotal ones "filler", so just exploring a planet for the heck of it is apparently bad..

[MattSilver 3k]

If you must compare, then SGU is still more stargate-y (you may want to notice the little "s") than previous series were in latest seasons. So far, there's been gate used in "Intervention", "Aftermath", "Pathogen" (how awesome was that!) and

Spoiler:

next week's "Malice".

Looks good to me.

I think you mean Cloverdale, not Pathogen. Why is it in red?

My reply to the first post: Meh. Unfortunately given that SGU's trying to avoid medieval villages each week, it's a given that not every week could be a unique gate experience in itself - the medieval villages might be all female or have a Wraith problem that's different from last week's Wraith problem et cetera. There are so many more actual Stargate usage stories left really, and having the crew hunt for food every week would get kinda tedious - hell, after Water everyone here was convinced that each offworld trip to get something would be the same as Water and Air 3...

[SGFerrit]

I'm glad that the arc seems to be bigger than just typical planet of the week fare. The last two episodes have been great, whether they stepped through a gate or not.

As for Awakening, although they didn't get to go through the gate, we finally saw something people have been waiting to see since early SG1, what was in essence a Stargate factory. Not to mention a Seeder Ship that was sent to seed Stargates across the universe. What other franchise would you get that experience with?

[Sami_]

Trial and Error did have action, it had space battles.

[Egle01]

Yeah, I meant "Cloverdale". I mixed episode titles. That's a first!

[jelgate]

If you must compare, then SGU is still more stargate-y (you may want to notice the little "s") than previous series were in latest seasons. So far, there's been gate used in "Intervention", "Aftermath", "Pathogen" (how awesome was that!) and

Spoiler:

next week's "Malice".

Looks good to me.

I'd argue their is gate use in Awakening since they tried to dial. It personally doesn't bother me considering in the other series how many times their were episodes that didn't use the gate

[garhkal]

And they DID have gate use once it got unburied.... BUT i do.. several eps of 7 now have had little gate use if any.

[Avenger]

After a full season + 7 episodes, why are people still expecting this show to have gate use in more than about half the episodes?

[carmencatalina]

Next episode you will have your Stargate usage, which apparently is all the OP needs to be happy.

[Loheat]

I dont want to start counting the Stargate episodes and comparing them to SG-1 and SGA, but it does get a bit boring staying aboard Destiny and exploring derelict spaceships. Cloverdale's focus wasn't on the planet, but was in a small-town in Scott's mind. I am excited for the next episode because its nice to have a change of scenery and to use the name-sake Stargate, and see something new for a change

[Kanten]

Has anyone noticed that we have a lot of episodes with absolutely zero Stargate action?

You mean just like SG-1 and Atlantis in the later seasons?

[Commander Zelix]

Has anyone noticed that we have a lot of episodes with absolutely zero Stargate action?

Trial and Error had nothing to do with the Stargate. Now the same with The Greater Good.
The same can be said about Awakening and Pathogen.

So out of 7 episodes so far this season, 4 of them had zero Stargate action in them.

Don't get me wrong, I like SGU. But they seem to be drifting too far away from their roots. SGA and SG1 had the occasional episode with no Stargate action. But I doubt they ever went over 50% of the episodes like SGU is doing.

In terms of SGA and SG1, SGU is a constant bottle show episode.

With some real actions and explorations of original settings and situation happening just every now and then.

When it happens it's often not even the focus of the episode. We could say for example, "it could have happened on any planets" "it could have happened on any spaceships or even aboard the Destiny", etc.

What I liked SG1 and SGA was the different settings and situation the Stargate galaxy exploration permitted. Leading to a very nice diversity of plots. While in bottle show episodes, it's seems always like the same with preoccupation over trivial character conflicts and interactions. While in crime show we always wonder what will be the crime this week. What type of people it will involve. In SG1, I was always wondering what great original adventures we would find on the other side of the Stargate. This was my main motivation/anticipation before watching an episode.

An episode like the greater good is comparable to using the Stargate to explore some derelict spaceships. The only difference with this episode and typical SG1 and SGA episodes is that the derelict gates seeder aliens spaceships plot was sidelined for the discovery Rush deception and the Destiny's bridge. We almost forgot they were there in the first place so salvage somethings. Telford wasn't even mentioned once even if he's possibly prisoner of those seeder ship aliens and it was one of their ship. But it was a good episode imo.

[coZma]

I believe that at some point the Stargate became more of a trademark of the ancients. After Sg-1 season 6 or 7 the show has focused more on finding new stuff about them. Now, for me the stargate in the title means only the connection the show has with the ancient mythology, I don't really expect so much gate usage as in early SG-1, but I do expect something new about the gate builders. Plus I'm really grateful to see some really alien looking landscapes even if they are fewer than forests and medieval villages on every single episode/planet.

[Commander Zelix]

I believe that at some point the Stargate became more of a trademark of the ancients. After Sg-1 season 6 or 7 the show has focused more on finding new stuff about them. Now, for me the stargate in the title means only the connection the show has with the ancient mythology, I don't really expect so much gate usage as in early SG-1, but I do expect something new about the gate builders. Plus I'm really grateful to see some really alien looking landscapes even if they are fewer than forests and medieval villages on every single episode/planet.

I still think they could have created much more original storyline. For example by following Telford misadventure on the gate seeder ships with the aliens. Same as they could have done the same by showing Rush and blue aliens interactions.

I don't know what the new mission will means to them, but I feel the Destiny crew are generally only going along with the voyage. They have no mission, no main enemy, nothing driving the story. Which I find really odd for a show that pretend to be more mythology based and less episodic. They could still have people on the spaceship stories but diversifying it with adventure and exploration stories (like the Telford/seeder ship aliens plotline). They could even fly within a galaxy full of inhabited planets with complex political situations. Tying it somehow to the new Destiny mission storylines. It would add a layer to the generally underwhelming story presented in SGU.

[g.o.d]

Has anyone noticed that we have a lot of episodes with absolutely zero Stargate action?

Trial and Error had nothing to do with the Stargate. Now the same with The Greater Good.
The same can be said about Awakening and Pathogen.

So out of 7 episodes so far this season, 4 of them had zero Stargate action in them.

Don't get me wrong, I like SGU. But they seem to be drifting too far away from their roots. SGA and SG1 had the occasional episode with no Stargate action. But I doubt they ever went over 50% of the episodes like SGU is doing.

oh lord, world is gonna end.!!!Some non-stargate episodes are better than episode where they use stargate( like Pathogen or SGA Irr...)

[James71]

An episode like the greater good is comparable to using the Stargate to explore some derelict spaceships. The only difference with this episode and typical SG1 and SGA episodes is that the derelict gates seeder aliens spaceships plot was sidelined for the discovery Rush deception and the Destiny's bridge. We almost forgot they were there in the first place so salvage somethings.

Exactly. This alien ship in "The Greater Good" was basically forgotten as a resource. The only plot purpose was to use the alien spaceship to put Rush in a position where he was forced to give up the knowledge of the bridge and master code.

Telford wasn't even mentioned once even if he's possibly prisoner of those seeder ship aliens and it was one of their ship. But it was a good episode imo.

That also bothers me. Rush admitted to Young that he had control of the ship since the LA invasion. So Rush could have taken off the autopilot and gone back for Telford. Are they going to turn around and go get him? Or is he just completely forgotten and never mentioned again?

[Commander Zelix]

That also bothers me. Rush admitted to Young that he had control of the ship since the LA invasion. So Rush could have taken off the autopilot and gone back for Telford. Are they going to turn around and go get him? Or is he just completely forgotten and never mentioned again?

That's another problem they have now. I mean it's not a problem just a plot point. People on the Destiny, should now request Young to turn the ship around and get the people who were left behind. Like the geologist in Air 3. Telford on the gate seeder ship. I don't know if they will do it but TJ should be the first one insisting with all the power of her being so they turn the ship around to get back her baby. Since TJ's baby on the alien planet story was keep moving in the previous episode. I think there's a change this will happens. But that's ok and good if they deal with the problem of going back to get our people left behind plotline. They should drop that hostile prison break LA guy on the planet with the others while they are at it.