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    This seems to be a frequent topic of discussion in both our TCW threads and variously throughout on this subforum so I thought I'd put up a timeline 'master list' of the on-screen chronology of the Clone Wars period of the SW universe. In a place where it won't just get lost in previous pages


    Year One (22-21 years Before the Battle of Yavin)
    Episode II: Attack of the Clones
    Clone Wars: Chapters I-XX (Vol 1)
    Clone Wars: Chapter XXI (first bits of Vol 2)


    Year Two (21-20 years Before the Battle of Yavin)
    Battle of Christophsis: The Clone Wars 2.16 "Cat and Mouse"
    Battle of Christophsis: The Clone Wars 1.16 "The Hidden Enemy"
    Battle of Christophsis: The Clone Wars (film)
    Battle of Ryloth: The Clone Wars 3.03 "Supply Lines"
    Battle of Ryloth: The Clone Wars 1.01 "Ambush"
    Battle of Ryloth: The Clone Wars 1.19 "Storm Over Ryloth"
    Battle of Ryloth: The Clone Wars 1.20 "Innocents of Ryloth"
    Battle of Ryloth: The Clone Wars 1.21 "Liberty on Ryloth"
    Droids: The Clone Wars 1.06 "Downfall of a Droid"
    Droids: The Clone Wars 1.07 "Duel of the Droids"
    Malevolence: The Clone Wars 1.02 "Rising Malevolence"
    Malevolence: The Clone Wars 1.03 "Shadow of Malevolence"
    Malevolence: The Clone Wars 1.04 "Destroy Malevolence"
    Rookies: The Clone Wars 3.01 "Clone Cadets"
    Rookies: The Clone Wars 1.05 "Rookies"
    Rookies: The Clone Wars 3.02 "ARC Troopers"
    Gunray Captured: The Clone Wars 1.08 "Bombad Jedi"
    Gunray Captured: The Clone Wars 1.09 "Cloak of Darkness"
    Gunray Captured: The Clone Wars 1.10 "Lair of Grevious"
    Dooku Captured: The Clone Wars 1.11 "Dooku Captured"
    Dooku Captured: The Clone Wars 1.12 "The Gungan General"
    Battle of Maridun: The Clone Wars 1.13 "Jedi Crash"
    Battle of Maridun: The Clone Wars 1.14 "Defenders of Peace"
    Standalone: The Clone Wars 1.15 "Trespass"
    Blue Shadow Virus: The Clone Wars 1.17 "Blue Shadow Virus"
    Blue Shadow Virus: The Clone Wars 1.18 "Mystery of a Thousand Moons"
    Holocron Heist: The Clone Wars 2.01 "Holocron Heist"
    Holocron Heist: The Clone Wars 2.02 "Cargo of Doom"
    Holocron Heist: The Clone Wars 2.03 "Children of the Force"
    Second Battle of Geonosis: The Clone Wars 2.04 "Senate Spy"
    Second Battle of Geonosis: The Clone Wars 2.05 "Landing at Point Rain"
    Second Battle of Geonosis: The Clone Wars 2.06 "Weapons Factory"
    Second Battle of Geonosis: The Clone Wars 2.07 "Legacy of Terror"
    Second Battle of Geonosis: The Clone Wars 2.08 "Brain Invaders"
    Hunting Grevious: The Clone Wars 2.09 "Grevious Intrigue"
    Hunting Grevious: The Clone Wars 2.10 "The Deserter"
    Standalone: The Clone Wars 2.11 "Lightsaber Lost"
    Mandalore Trilogy: The Clone Wars 2.12 "The Mandalore Plot"
    Mandalore Trilogy: The Clone Wars 2.13 "Voyage of Temptation"
    Mandalore Trilogy: The Clone Wars 2.14 "Duchess of Mandalore"
    Standalone: The Clone Wars 2.17 "Bounty Hunters"
    Zillo Beast: The Clone Wars 2.18 "The Zillo Beast"
    Zillo Beast: The Clone Wars 2.19 "The Zillo Beast Strikes Back"
    Vengeance: The Clone Wars 2.20 "Death Trap"
    Vengeance: The Clone Wars 2.21 "R2 Come Home"
    Vengeance: The Clone Wars 2.22 "Lethal Trackdown"
    Standalone: The Clone Wars 3.04 "Sphere of Influence"
    Mandalore Duology: The Clone Wars 3.05 "Corruption"
    Mandalore Duology: The Clone Wars 3.06 "The Academy"
    Vengeance: The Clone Wars 3.07 "Assassin"
    Ziro the Hutt: The Clone Wars 3.08 "Evil Plans"
    Ziro the Hutt: The Clone Wars 1.22 "Hostage Crisis"
    Ziro the Hutt: The Clone Wars 3.09 "Hunt for Ziro"
    Peace Overtures: The Clone Wars 3.10 "Heroes on Both Sides"
    Peace Overtures: The Clone Wars 3.11 "Pursuit of Peace"
    Peace Overtures: The Clone Wars 2.15 "Senate Murders"
    Nightsisters: The Clone Wars 3.12 "Nightsisters"
    Nightsisters: The Clone Wars 3.13 "Monster"
    Nightsisters: The Clone Wars 3.14 "Witches of the Mist"
    Mortis: The Clone Wars 3.15 "Overlords"
    Mortis: The Clone Wars 3.16 "Altar of Mortis"
    Mortis: The Clone Wars 3.17 "Ghosts of Mortis"
    The Citadel: The Clone Wars 3.18 "The Citadel"
    The Citadel: The Clone Wars 3.19 "Counterattack"
    The Citadel: The Clone Wars 3.20 "Citadel Rescue"
    Ahsoka Lost: The Clone Wars 3.21 "Padawan Lost"
    Ahsoka Lost: The Clone Wars 3.22 "Wookiee Hunt"
    Standalone: 4.04 "Shadow Warrior"
    Second Battle of Mon Calamari: Clone Wars Adventures: Mission to Iceberg Three
    Second Battle of Mon Calamari: The Clone Wars 4.01 "Water War"
    Second Battle of Mon Calamari: The Clone Wars 4.02 "Gungan Attack"
    Second Battle of Mon Calamari: The Clone Wars 4.03 "Prisoners"
    Droid Misadventures: 4.05 "Mercy Mission"
    Droid Misadventures: 4.06 "Nomad Droids"
    Battle of Umbara: 4.07 "Darkness On Umbara"
    Battle of Umbara: 4.08 "The General"
    Battle of Umbara: 4.09 "Plan of Dissent"
    Battle of Umbara: 4.10 "Carnage of Krell"
    Slavers: 4.11 "Kidnapped"
    Slavers: 4.12 "Slaves of the Republic"
    Slavers: 4.13 "Escape from Kadavo"
    Standalone: 4.14 "A Friend in Need" *
    Deception: 4.15 "Deception"
    Deception: 4.16 "Friends and Enemies"
    Deception: 4.17 "The Box"
    Deception: 4.18 "Crisis on Naboo"


    Year Three (20-19 years Before the Battle of Yavin)
    Ventress in Exile: 4.19 "Massacre"
    Ventress in Exile: 4.20 "Bounty"
    Brothers Reunited: 4.21 "Brothers"
    Brothers Reunited: 4.22 "Revenge"
    Republic Terrorism: 5.02 "A War on Two Fronts"
    Republic Terrorism: 5.03 "Front Runners"
    Republic Terrorism: 5.04 "The Soft War"
    Republic Terrorism: 5.05 "Tipping Points"
    Brothers Reunited, cont'd: 5.01 "Revival"
    Clone Wars: Chapters XXII-XXV
    Episode III: Revenge of the Sith





    * Of the recent episodes, this one may change timeline placement. It's a follow-up to the Peace Overtures arc, but its exact placement isn't entirely clear. But until more detailed information presents itself, I've just put it in its spot in the airing order.
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    good idea
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    Found this at TFN:
    (story arc titles are unofficial designations)
    (Production ###/Airing ###)
    Christophsis Arc
    -217/216: Cat and Mouse
    -201/116: The Hidden Enemy
    -118/TCW: The New Padawan
    -101/TCW: Castle of Doom
    -103/TCW: Castle of Deception
    -104/TCW: Castle of Salvation
    Ambush Duology
    -224/303: Supply Lines
    -108/101: Ambush
    Droid Duology
    -102/106: Downfall of a Droid
    -106/107: Duel of the Droids
    Malevolence Trilogy
    -107/102: Rising Malevolence
    -109/103: Shadow of Malevolence
    -111/104: Destroy Malevolence
    Nute Trilogy
    -105/108: Bombad Jedi
    -110/109: Cloak of Darkness
    -112/110: Lair of Grievous
    Clone Trilogy
    -301/301: Clone Cadets
    -114/105: Rookies
    -302/302: ARC Troopers*
    Dooku Duology
    -116/111: Dooku Captured
    -120/112: The Gungan General
    Ryloth Trilogy
    -115/119: Storm Over Ryloth
    -117/120: Innocents of Ryloth
    -119/121: Liberty on Ryloth
    Maridun Duology
    -122/113: Jedi Crash
    -124/114: Defenders of Peace
    Virus Duology
    -126/117: Blue Shadow Virus
    -202/118: Mystery of a Thousand Moons
    Stand Alone
    -125/115: Trespass
    Holocron Arc
    -219/217: Bounty Hunters
    -204/122: Hostage Crisis
    -123/201: Holocron Heist
    -113/202: Cargo of Doom
    -203/203: Children of the Force
    Geonosis Arc
    -205/204: Senate Spy
    -207/205: Landing at Point Rain
    -208/206: Weapons Factory
    -209/207: Legacy of Terror
    -212/208: Brain Invaders
    Saleucami Arc
    -211/211: Lightsaber Lost
    -214/209: Grievous Intrigue
    -206/210: The Deserter
    Mandalorian Trilogy
    -213/212: The Mandalore Plot
    -121/213: Voyage of Temptation
    -216/214: Duchess of Mandalore
    Stand Alones
    -225/304: Sphere of Influence
    -210/215: Senate Murders
    Zillo Duology
    -222/218: The Zillo Beast
    -223/219: The Zillo Beast Strikes Back
    Boba Fett Trilogy
    -215/220: Death Trap
    -218/221: R2 Come Home
    -220/222: Lethal Trackdown

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    An interesting addition, but I'm not sure I buy it. A lot of that seems rather arbitrary, and other parts look like they're based primarily on production order. My understanding (and list) is cobbled together from the Clone Wars timeline at Wookieepedia as well as individual articles about episodes in particular.

    Just my opinion though

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    I havent seen Corruption yet but im guessing it goes with The Mandalore Trilogy?

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    Corruption revisits Satine's Mandalore, but there's nothing to suggest that it immediately follows season 2's Mandalore trilogy...

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    star wars confuses me. and i was thinking of starting to watch the clone wars but after this thread i'm even more confused

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharaoh Atem View Post
    star wars confuses me. and i was thinking of starting to watch the clone wars but after this thread i'm even more confused
    Don't watch it. The Clone Wars is heresy.....at least to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharaoh Atem View Post
    star wars confuses me. and i was thinking of starting to watch the clone wars but after this thread i'm even more confused
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    Just spent about an hour clicking through the Wookieepedia articles on the Clone Wars (the conflict) as well as numerous tabs for episodes and specific battles. It doesn't look like a lot, but I did some major revising just now

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    Updated again to reflect tonight's revelation, as well as the single sentence on Wookieepedia concerning the next episode. Interesting to note that the Season 2 timeframe now ends with the Zillo Beast duology, and that the only episodes of the year so far to take place post-S2 are the newest Manalorian duology. Unless it ends up being bumped back in the timeline too

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    Updated once more to reflect the position of tonight's episode in the chronology. Seems more than likely that next week's will be a direct sequel to 1.22, but I'll hold off on entering that till it airs.

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    Just did another overhaul after spending a lot of time reading through the trivia/factoids sections for individual episodes at the official TCW site at starwars.com. As a result quite a number of episodes were shuffled around.



    modifications:
    - shuffling the order of the bounty hunter mini-arcs, as suggested by the trivia and details sections of various relevant episodes at the official TCW site at starwars.com

    - moved the zillo beast stories closer to Lightsaber Lost, as the Palpatine billboard giving an address in ZBSB is the same address seen in Lightsaber Lost. While this is almost certainly just cost-cutting in production by re-using an existing asset, it does appear on-screen and is thus canonical

    - another section on the TCW site states that Senate Murders was the most recent chronological episode, being part 3 of an arc that begins with tonight's episode (Heroes On Both Sides) and has its part 2 in the next episode (Pursuit of Peace) so it's been moved up in the order to reflect this. Also moved Bounty Hunters back a bit to before Senate Murders for the same reason (though its actual place in the chronology remains unclear)

    - moved this year's Mandalore duology up in the timeline to just post-Sphere of Influence. This was done a) because of the aforementioned need for Senate Murders to be so late in the timeline; and b) because Ahsoka uses a mind trick fairly confidently in the duology--a skill she mastered in Sphere of Influence. This has the added benefit of making the "Master Kenobi's recent visit" line in The Academy seem much more relevant, with the season 2 trilogy having happened so much more recently

    - moved a number of stories and arcs into the 20 BBY year in accordance with Wookieepedia consensus that the Zillo Beast stories take place right near the end of 21 BBY

    - also a major style revision to (hopefully) make it easier to follow where the story arcs are
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    Question time: should the 'newsreels' from the beginning of episodes be factored into chronology-building, or should I ignore them as a viewer/narrative device in place strictly for our benefit? I'll need to shift some things around again if you guys think they're properly considered part of the timeline.

    Incidentally one of the trivia factoids at the official site for 'Heroes on Both Sides' states that, as a result of the introduction of the new character models, we probably won't be seeing (m)any more prequel episodes from the Season 1 and 2 timeframe:
    As previously reported, this episode unveils new models for several of the main characters, including upgrades to Anakin Skywalker and Ahsoka Tano, and a new wardrobe for Chancellor Palpatine. Ahsoka is now older; there is an unspecified passage of time between this episode and her last appearance. With the start of this arc, which continues in "Pursuit of Peace" and concludes in Season Two's "Senate Murders," the Clone Wars storyline advances to its furthest point in the timeline, and subsequent episodes should continue going forward without as much jumping back and forth.
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    I wouldn't count the newsreel when it comes to determining an episode's timeline. I think they are just used for our benefit, like the difference between "Last time on...." and "Previously on....". They are just there for our benefit in understanding the back-story to the events we are going to see.

    As for the character models, I was thinking the same thing. I wouldn't expect them to shift to episodes set before 'Heroes On Both Sides' unless they are willing to reuse the old models. To use new models for episodes set in the first or second season would just end up screwing things up a bit too much.



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    Quote Originally Posted by SaberBlade View Post
    I wouldn't count the newsreel when it comes to determining an episode's timeline. I think they are just used for our benefit, like the difference between "Last time on...." and "Previously on....". They are just there for our benefit in understanding the back-story to the events we are going to see.
    Yeah I'm generally of the same mind in thinking of them as the TCW equivalent of "previously on..."

    But the issue is still a bit troublesome because of how they approach it. There's been a few occasions in which an episode's newsreel shows a battle which hasn't yet happened in the flow of episodes. To name a couple, the first episode of the Malevolence arc (102) references the Battle of Bothawui, which doesn't happen until episode 106 (Downfall of a Droid); Rookies (105) references the Battle of Devaron, which doesn't happen until episode 202. There's actually quite a number of them that present this problem.

    I've gone ahead and organized it as a separate list for my own reference, but I'm still very conflicted over which direction we should take as our 'official' list. Though even still, the question remains as to which 'end' of episodes gets moved (ie do the Holocron episodes get moved into the Season 1 timeframe, or do the Rookies episodes get pushed back into the Season 2 timeframe?)

    Quote Originally Posted by SaberBlade View Post
    As for the character models, I was thinking the same thing. I wouldn't expect them to shift to episodes set before 'Heroes On Both Sides' unless they are willing to reuse the old models. To use new models for episodes set in the first or second season would just end up screwing things up a bit too much.


    It's nice to know things are going to start settling down soon. I don't mind the show jumping around on occasion, but the way they've been doing it this year has been just mind-boggling. A friend of mine that I got into the show (who isn't really into Star Wars to begin with) has gotten very, very frustrated with it this year.

    So I'm looking forward to the timeline finally properly moving forward. But at the same time I wonder how long it'll be till they start to play with it again--mid-season 4? Season 5?

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    It had never occurred to me that the newsreel segments could used to determine an episodes canon status within the timeline. I just thought of them as bits and pieces taken from different episodes to show the war, but to also act like a regular show use of scenes to make opening credits of sorts. Different scenes taken from various episodes to make the opening credits.

    It makes me lean towards including the newsreel to determine where an episode may take place in the timeline. For now, I would suggest doing an episode by episode timeline, without the newsreel affecting things, then wait to see if any newsreel ends up conflicting with the timeline. If they are random scenes, eventually it should cause a continuity error.

    I'm hoping they'll stop playing with the timeline soon. I think two complete seasons was long enough for them to get a team together and work out a solid clone war timeline.



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    Some of you may have noticed over in SF/F that I've been rewatching TCW over the last little while. I've been following the alt/Newsreel order that I posted in the first post of the thread (the list hidden in spoiler tags), and you know....it really flows very very well. It doesn't feel anywhere near as disjointed as it does to watch the series week to week. They've done a really nice job of making things flow and feel like an ongoing story; all the timeline hopping that we've seen this year has really made the story feel more fleshed out and complete.

    Visually there's a nice balance between great consistency and in lovely unique sights. I've been noticing a lot of really nice little touches, like the symbol of the CIS printed on a lot of vehicles and generals' sleeves, the phenomenal amount of clone 'customization' in both their hair and armour, and a lot of other little things like that.

    One of the things that's surprised the crap out of me though is how much more enjoyable certain stories are when viewed in this order and/or watching a series of episodes in a row. The standalone stories don't feel so standalone, and even episodes that I previously regarded as sub-par (like Satine's Mandalorians) are much more enjoyable. In seeing things like this, it's really quite apparent how Satine's entrenched idealism is failing her and how it will eventually result in her fall from power.

    The show is not nearly as 'kid-friendly' as it appears at a glance. I'm now totally convinced that we will see Satine's New Mandalorians fall at some point during the run of the series. And the amount of death happening in the series has really been nothing short of astonishing. I've been floored at the number of people dying both on- and off-screen, in varying degrees of brutality. It's fantastic.

    I really would not be surprised if the show continues to turn darker and darker as it goes on. It's already quite dark, much moreso than it seems to be if you're only watching isolated episodes. They've done a lovely job of fleshing out the universe and of very subtly making it a brutal and nasty place. As we approach the messy and horrible third year of the war and the darkness of ROTS, it seems only appropriate (and likely) that the show will gravitate in that direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DigiFluid View Post
    Visually there's a nice balance between great consistency and in lovely unique sights. I've been noticing a lot of really nice little touches, like the symbol of the CIS printed on a lot of vehicles and generals' sleeves, the phenomenal amount of clone 'customization' in both their hair and armour, and a lot of other little things like that.

    One of the things that's surprised the crap out of me though is how much more enjoyable certain stories are when viewed in this order and/or watching a series of episodes in a row. The standalone stories don't feel so standalone, and even episodes that I previously regarded as sub-par (like Satine's Mandalorians) are much more enjoyable. In seeing things like this, it's really quite apparent how Satine's entrenched idealism is failing her and how it will eventually result in her fall from power.

    The show is not nearly as 'kid-friendly' as it appears at a glance. I'm now totally convinced that we will see Satine's New Mandalorians fall at some point during the run of the series. And the amount of death happening in the series has really been nothing short of astonishing. I've been floored at the number of people dying both on- and off-screen, in varying degrees of brutality. It's fantastic.

    I really would not be surprised if the show continues to turn darker and darker as it goes on. It's already quite dark, much moreso than it seems to be if you're only watching isolated episodes. They've done a lovely job of fleshing out the universe and of very subtly making it a brutal and nasty place. As we approach the messy and horrible third year of the war and the darkness of ROTS, it seems only appropriate (and likely) that the show will gravitate in that direction.
    I have to agree thatthe amount of individualization the clones are showing is a great little touch. It's amazing how different they appear just by changing the hair styles or armor a little bit.

    I really hope your right about Satine and the New Mandalorians falling at some point on the show. I hate them with the white hot passion of a 1,000 supernovas!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mandogater View Post
    I have to agree thatthe amount of individualization the clones are showing is a great little touch. It's amazing how different they appear just by changing the hair styles or armor a little bit.

    I really hope your right about Satine and the New Mandalorians falling at some point on the show. I hate them with the white hot passion of a 1,000 supernovas!!!!
    Mhm....I'm really of a few minds on Satine's New Mandalorians.

    On one level, I really really dislike them. And I'm not happy with the blatant antithetical pacifism as compared to what we know Mandalorians are supposed to be like. And as the episodes aired, I really did not like the stories either.

    But in watching them in this Newsreel order I was really surprised to find how much I enjoyed them. Not as Mandalorians mind you, but rather that the storytelling they were doing was actually pretty enjoyable. The New Mandalorians and Satine in particular are being portrayed phenomenally well as idealists in a time that doesn't allow for idealism. Watching them, it seems quite clear to me that her pacifistic beliefs are failing her more and more--she's been betrayed by a governor, a senator, and now her own Prime Minister. It seems increasingly that her time is running out.

    And what I find even more intriguing about that is that in a lot of ways, Satine and the NMs are a kind of microcosm for idealism in the broader SW universe. Peace just isn't possible, and things are only going to get darker and more unpleasant as time goes on. We're slowly but relentlessly marching toward the murder of Dooku, the fall of Anakin, the extermination of the Jedi Order, and the end of the Republic. And no amount of hope or idealism is going to stop it.

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