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Did the Ancients terraform planets?
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In the pilot episode of Atlantis, the Ancient hologram said
...in the hope of spreading new life in a galaxy where their appeared to be none.
In time, a thousand worlds bore the fruit of life in this form.
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I was always under the impression. That the Ancients proved evolution was real in the show. Given that "We are the second evolution of this kind" So when they said seeded life, I thought that they were saying that made planets that could evolve life, eventually that's why to quote another reference "In time, a thousand worlds bore the fruit of life in this form." that was when human beings evolved.
Any device that can create this could surely remove aspects of it. Such as atoms behaving in a certain way. We at our current level of technology can create a bomb that will only destroy the living organic elements.
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I think that something like the genesis device . Really the ancients had WH-drive and they found the prof that god exists so there is no reason in the universe to think that they can't do it .sigpic
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Originally posted by Ragitsu View PostI only ask, because a lot of the planets the Ancients seeded life on had plentiful woodlands and greenery. I know the show production reason for this, but I wonder if the Ancients didn't turn some of these planets from barren rock to the supporters of life we see today.Originally posted by Rasunda View PostWell... The planets in SGU seems pretty barren too me... No Dakara device = no life in to many places... I mean, the device can destroy everything in a galaxy.. And it can make human life... It should have a terra forming device in it..
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Originally posted by webxro View PostI think that something like the genesis device . Really the ancients had WH-drive and they found the prof that god exists so there is no reason in the universe to think that they can't do it .
Terra-forming a planet isn't hard, we are considering ways of crudely terror-forming planets at the moment.
But yes, they can terraform planets. Not that they'd need to given the odds are pretty good for other earth-like planets.
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Originally posted by Bane View PostThere has never been any mention of terraforming planets in the series. However they did create a atmosphere for a small moon.I dunno what to put in here now..
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Originally posted by actuallyliam View PostWait when did they prove God? The ancients claimed they seeded all life. Which would be against the idea of God.
Terra-forming a planet isn't hard, we are considering ways of crudely terror-forming planets at the moment.
But yes, they can terraform planets. Not that they'd need to given the odds are pretty good for other earth-like planets."First Weir, then Samantha Carter, and now, you! It's a pity you humans die or get reassigned so easily, or I might have a sense of satisfaction now!"
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Originally posted by Ragitsu View PostI only ask, because a lot of the planets the Ancients seeded life on had plentiful woodlands and greenery. I know the show production reason for this, but I wonder if the Ancients didn't turn some of these planets from barren rock to the supporters of life we see today.
however, it's hard to know whether we ever saw the entire planets. remember when jack + sam got trapped on the 'ice' planet? the one that turned out to be antartica? they couldn't detect radio traffic, either.
we saw the area around the gate, that's all. until there is evidence that we saw entire planets that were confirmed deserts or rainforests, i personally believe it's feasible that many planets had several environs that were simply never explored.
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Originally posted by actuallyliam View PostWait when did they prove God?Spoiler:and the signal destiny is following. not a 100% god-signal, but definitely implied evidence of something out there beyond the knowledge of the ancients. since it seemed to be in the background radiation, it doesn't seem to be a radio signal from an advanced race that has simply taken this long to reach here - it suggests a construct/design to the universe.The ancients claimed they seeded all life.Which would be against the idea of God.
creationism teaches that god created all life et cetera - but it doesn't rule out that a lesser form could build a machine to reproduce life. there are 3 points to consider:
1. the ancients built the device, but 'god' had to permit it to operate. this would imply that 'god' was constantly around, but if so thenSpoiler:the signal destiny was following shouldn't have been traceable to any kind of source. instead, the ship is going in a relatively straight line toward an approximate goal.
2. 'god' gave the ancients free will. by extension, he did not limit the extent to which they could develop. this would permit them to develop certain powers which, from a religious point of view, are either 'god' powers - healing springs to mind - or 'dangerous' powers - khalek for example seemed able to use his developing power to kill, and to manipulate his environment. environmental manipulation may not, inherently, be considered dangerous - but at best it is morally ambiguous. the wraith also seem to have a form of telepathic power - creating illusions to cause terror. the power in itself may be ambiguous, however it has been portrayed as 'dangerous.'
3. by religious perspectives, 'god' is always watching us and has a plan for us. there's an old story of a man caught in a flood. he climbs a tree, and as several people pass by they offer to help him escape. as a man of faith, his response is always 'god will save me.' the flood finally rises far enough to take him from the tree and drown him. when he gets to the afterlife, he asks god, 'why didn't you save me?' god answers, 'i tried, but you turned me away. i sent people to save you and you turned them all away.' the point i'm making is: from a religious perspective, the ancients may simply be acting out 'god's' plan, particularly since they aren't creating but recreating life, spreading it as far as they can. or, of course, the 'devil's' plan in mockery of life, if they chose to turn away from good.
the explanation a person will accept will be based on their own view of 'god.'
of course, if a person does not believe in 'god' they can always argue that the Universe spoiler tag above is simply an accident, and the ancients are simply the most powerful existing beings, capable of creating from little more than cosmic dust. who knows?
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Oh the God question! When I saw the SGU show with this inclination, I immediately thought of lost and what a disappointment the ending was. Anyway, Terra forming planets: was there any mention of who the planet builders were in SGU? Although in Atlantis and SG1, it seemed like the ancients were superior, but in SG1 the vulnerability of the destiny seemed a little less superior (even though is was incredibly old) perhaps insinuating that the Ancients really were not all knowing considering the Destiny was on a path towards discovery. The Destiny is traveling towards the singularity in which the universe began and within that finding the what I am assuming is the 1% solitary electron makeup of a cosmic ray that to us now is still unknown. Although we do know that cosmic rays also emit from suns in times of solar flares, I am sure the Destiny is tracking the cosmic rays that are of anti matter and coming from the depths of the universe that are unknown but I think the show covers this. So, I am not sure, if it is picked back up, that it will point to the hand of God. For some reason that is so not Stargate! I think the whole purpose of the show was to show the infinite possibilities of time and space and to let that go would take away a key element of the franchise.sigpic
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