Gate Impact on other Species.

[Mr.Xcelent]

If a race can build a star & planet, advance deep space ship's (smurfs), could they not figure out how the gates worked. We figured it out on earth with no DHD to use. Could not another race do the same out there where ever the Destiny is travailing through. And if so what impact would it have on that galaxy? and I already know the gates from destiny uses a remote to dial. But I find it hard to believe that no one alien race can think up to try varying radio waves to see if it may generate a response. It would be cool to see Destiny come out of FTL one season in a Galaxy where an Empire has formed over the centuries from an Alien races learning how to use the gates and as result either unified there sector of space, if not rule it with an Alien titanium Fist. And picking up that Destiny is the same tech architecture type as the gates makes it the greatest sought after prize in there galaxy.

[Mike.]

It would be cool to see [...] an Empire has formed over the centuries from an Alien races learning how to use the gates and as result either unified there sector of space, if not rule it with an Alien titanium Fist. And picking up that Destiny is the same tech architecture type as the gates makes it the greatest sought after prize in there galaxy.

Great idea. They should give them a strange name, maybe with an apostrophe. Call them "Goa'uld". Yeah, that's it.

[malfunction]

Great idea. They should give them a strange name, maybe with an apostrophe. Call them "Goa'uld". Yeah, that's it.

It may have been done before, but it is logical that other alien races can use the stargates for their own ends, the Wraith rely on the stargates to travel around a lot of Pegasus and it is likely that they were the race who put the spacegates in orbit around planets and not the Lanteans. Earth built it's own DHD on a more sophisticated stargate, any race could do it as well. They wouldn't be able to make the stargates dial planets all over the galaxy, but making them do what they are designed to do wouldn't be a struggle for the species that built that star, or the race that is already following Destiny.

Spoiler:

in the trailer for the second half of the series that species was seen coming aboard Destiny through the stargate, so it has already happened

[Mike.]

It may have been done before, but it is logical that other alien races can use the stargates for their own ends, the Wraith rely on the stargates to travel around a lot of Pegasus and it is likely that they were the race who put the spacegates in orbit around planets and not the Lanteans. Earth built it's own DHD on a more sophisticated stargate, any race could do it as well. They wouldn't be able to make the stargates dial planets all over the galaxy, but making them do what they are designed to do wouldn't be a struggle for the species that built that star, or the race that is already following Destiny.

Sure, it's possible, but the Enemy Empire in a galaxy, as the Big Bad, doesn't fit SGU's format.
Destiny travels to a different area of space every episode, (so after a while it would no longer be in any danger) and by the end of the season

Spoiler:

it will leave the galaxy.

To fight such an enemy they would need to find a reason to stay, so far there is none. There are no humans this far out and the race that made that solar system seems to be advanced enough to take care of itself. Unless the writers seriously shake things up, I just don't see it.

Spoiler:

in the trailer for the second half of the series that species was seen coming aboard Destiny through the stargate, so it has already happened

That's what I'm thinking, if the writers choose that route. Not only can they use it but they also figured out Destiny's address. But I don't think we'll spend large amount of time having the blue aliens as antagonists, certainly not an eight season arc like in SG1 (or a five season arc like Atlantis).

[escyos]

even if they did, they would have to try ever permentation on the gate to reach the other gates.....and as we have seen a limited range and less gates in each area mean that they would have to keep trying each world tryign to reach more and more.....kind of like having to jump across a bunch of rocks instead of just swinging across.

[elitewolverine]

we only know the lack of range because either 1. power 2. no dhd to store planetary shift data of a entire galaxy network

if 2 is the only problem then a race advance enough to use the stargates without a dhd or kino, and have knowledge of any space travel, they would know of planetary shift. They would work around that, and the power problems...

and if all else fails, i dont see why a race that advanced to build a star system wouldnt be able to backwards engineer their own gates for their own purpose...

but that would definately be a little story arc...we leave with the ship, the aliens are like wtf, and use their knowledge of stargates to gate to other galaxies, including our own, avalon, ida, pegasus...lol but alas i dont think the writers are looking for a 'gate' series they want a bsg/voyager series

[thekillman]

i think the starbuilders are dead. but thats just IMO.


i think that the concept will be explored later. i would like to see a race that uses them but isn't terribly advanced. but it would be funny, we dial a gate..... and find a DHD. and then we're like "Huh?"

[escyos]

still there is no cartouche or information on any gate on any planet. they would still need to run every address to find a lock, that and figure out that they need 7 symbols, one which is a point of origin, and they also have to find out which is the point of origin too.

sure would be a LONG task to complete on each planet to find more gates

[thekillman]

actually no. if they figure out the coordinate system and then use a star map, they can calculate adresses to stars and then dial those.

[escyos]

actually no. if they figure out the coordinate system and then use a star map, they can calculate adresses to stars and then dial those.

yes but they would need to try every star to find a gate, and there would be stars they cant see

[Mike.]

yes but they would need to try every star to find a gate, and there would be stars they cant see

And many stars don't have planets with stargates on them.

[jds1982]

Well, they could always build their own gates based on the SGU gates. That might be an interesting episode.

[beafly]

i think the starbuilders are dead. but thats just IMO.


i think that the concept will be explored later. i would like to see a race that uses them but isn't terribly advanced. but it would be funny, we dial a gate..... and find a DHD. and then we're like "Huh?"

We have no proof that the star was even "built". How do you jump to... are dead?

[The Swarm]

Actualy proof was presented in that episode that the star system was artificial....but i agree that we do not know anything about the race that build it.

[Vitharr]

i dont think ive ever seen a dhd around anytime theyve gone to another planet they always use that little psp looking thingy that eli carries around sure we did it before but i think the ramifications for a civilization that unlocked gate travel within their own galaxy would probably propel them forward hundreds of years ahead of any other civilization if they exist and im nto so sure any civilizations will exist i dont know where those aliens came from the ones that took rush and chloe but theyre a fluke pretty much theres going to be no human looking race mainly because the statistical odds of theyre being a spieces of human that evolved seperatly to us is inprobable the only reason there was other human races in the milky way was because the goaúld took people from earth. i think that even if there is any advanced lifeforms in the galaxies were the ships have seeded probably wouldnt ever get to the stages where they could understand the gate system at all i doubt there would be much impact on a civilization but lets say there is some super smart sentient race out there it could be of a huge impact on their society today i mean think if we here on earth did discover something like the stargate it would be huge for our society.

[thekillman]

my eyes burn.



anyway, the aliens have a star map.


and by the way, yes you'd be dialling a hellofalotof planets, but far less than blind dial. a gate programmed to dial, note a connection and then disengage and try again will find adresses within days.

a full cycle will take, like what? 30 seconds? 20 if no connection. that's 2-3 adresses per minute. within a day, you tried 2880 to 4320 adresses. and that's adresses to stars, not complete blind dials. besides judging from the remote, the gates give off a weak signal or something that allows any alien sufficiently advanced to pick them up anyway.

[Crazy Tom]

If you can build stars and planets, what use if a puny wormhole system of use to you? You can probably generate your own by that tech level.

[Rob23]

Low tech species without space travel would take decades to make their own dhd then after that without any kind of reference to where more gates are placed they would never be able to use it space is just to vast for luck.

[Dragon_Heart]

If you can build stars and planets, what use if a puny wormhole system of use to you? You can probably generate your own by that tech level.

For all we know they could have hauled the star and planet to that location using any number of means, they would just need insurmountable amounts of power and systems that could actually handle that power which we know seems pretty impossible but then again look at ZPM's and hyperspace.

*deeeeep breath*

What im saying is, they could have transported it there, or created the star AND planet.
Throw abit of hydrogen and dust in there, start a nuclear fission and your happy days!

[thekillman]

if you can transport planets and stars, OR you have the infrastructure to build them, then stargates are no use to you. the Asgard had no use for stargates simply because they could get a massive warship, science lab and factory in one, at the same place in just a few minutes extra. the benefit of their own platform was much bigger than being there alone a bit faster. a race capable of making or transporting a star, even by other alien's technology, is by any means a Great Race and thus has no need for stargates. the ancients invented them because they had their own labs and warships everywhere already, they didn't need to bring their stuff along, but the asgard did. even then the ancients preferred hauling a massive city to a different galaxy over tossing a gate there and just dialling.


so Tom is right. a race that advanced has no need for gates, let alone another alien's gates