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    Default Where does the energy go???

    we know 2day that energy can not be destroyed or created and nothing in stargate changes this law.

    When atlantis was attacked on the episode The siege where did the energy go that was deflected off the shield. there was probly enough energy to melt the face of the planet in that attack. so where did that energy go? it could not have all absorbed because where would that enegy go? also if it was aborbed we could have used it to power the shield and therefore the shield would not run out.

    also the shield uses a lot of energy to run so where does that go. if the energy was giving off then it would melt the whole planet in under 1 hour.

    Is this a plot hole or does any1 have a good reason???




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    Quote Originally Posted by mickhhh View Post
    we know 2day that energy can not be destroyed or created and nothing in stargate changes this law.

    When atlantis was attacked on the episode The siege where did the energy go that was deflected off the shield. there was probly enough energy to melt the face of the planet in that attack. so where did that energy go? it could not have all absorbed because where would that enegy go? also if it was aborbed we could have used it to power the shield and therefore the shield would not run out.

    also the shield uses a lot of energy to run so where does that go. if the energy was giving off then it would melt the whole planet in under 1 hour.

    Is this a plot hole or does any1 have a good reason???
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    Quote Originally Posted by mickhhh View Post
    we know 2day that energy can not be destroyed or created and nothing in stargate changes this law.

    When atlantis was attacked on the episode The siege where did the energy go that was deflected off the shield. there was probly enough energy to melt the face of the planet in that attack. so where did that energy go? it could not have all absorbed because where would that enegy go? also if it was aborbed we could have used it to power the shield and therefore the shield would not run out.

    also the shield uses a lot of energy to run so where does that go. if the energy was giving off then it would melt the whole planet in under 1 hour.

    Is this a plot hole or does any1 have a good reason???
    first of all, the way that the wraith's weapons work is that they fire a burst of superheated plasma that hits the shield. and the shield works by creating a field of energy, most likely in the form of plasma, around the city. and when the weapon is fired at the shield, it forces the shield to exert the same amount of energy to cancel out the weapons energy and thats why the more preasure is exerted against the shield, the more energy you need to keep it going. and what happens to the energy of the wraith's weapons is that when it impacts the shield it forces the shield to deplete some of its energy to stop the weapons energy and eventually dissipates into radiant energy or some sort of gaseous state. the energy is not lost but merely changes form.

    as for what happens to the shields energy, it also merely changes form as the energy or plasma is burned off canceling the wraith's weapons out. and when its turned off, the energy and plasma of the shield just reverts to a gaseous state since the generators are no longer holding it in place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mickhhh View Post
    we know 2day that energy can not be destroyed or created and nothing in stargate changes this law.

    When atlantis was attacked on the episode The siege where did the energy go that was deflected off the shield. there was probly enough energy to melt the face of the planet in that attack. so where did that energy go? it could not have all absorbed because where would that enegy go? also if it was aborbed we could have used it to power the shield and therefore the shield would not run out.

    also the shield uses a lot of energy to run so where does that go. if the energy was giving off then it would melt the whole planet in under 1 hour.

    Is this a plot hole or does any1 have a good reason???
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    Default Re: Where does the energy go???

    for one stop whit the plasma shield , and second maybe the energy dissipated

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    Default Re: Where does the energy go???

    Quote Originally Posted by webxro View Post
    for one stop whit the plasma shield ,
    Why, do you not like calling it a plasma shield?


    Quote Originally Posted by webxro View Post
    and second maybe the energy dissipated
    Clearly. The OP is asking to where did it dissipate without destroying the planet.
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    i said stop using the "plasma shield " thing because sounds annoying and as i would like to say the that the energy was drain by the shields

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    The issue is conservation of energy, which is neither created nor destroyed. If the shields deflect or even "absorb" the energy (as people often say) it has to go somewhere. This isn't really a problem in space, but Atlantis was sitting on an ocean in an atmosphere and so the energy would basically be transferred into the air and water. This causes the oceans to heat an boil, the atmosphere to ionize, etc. It isn't pretty.

    And I'm sorry you don't like the term "plasma shield." I don't like when people can't spell or punctuate, but we can't always get what we want now can we?
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    I think that punctuation is useless on a forum , nothing is official here , and about spelling firefox underlines all my spell mistakes

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickhhh View Post
    we know 2day that energy can not be destroyed or created and nothing in stargate changes this law.

    When atlantis was attacked on the episode The siege where did the energy go that was deflected off the shield. there was probly enough energy to melt the face of the planet in that attack. so where did that energy go? it could not have all absorbed because where would that enegy go? also if it was aborbed we could have used it to power the shield and therefore the shield would not run out.

    also the shield uses a lot of energy to run so where does that go. if the energy was giving off then it would melt the whole planet in under 1 hour.

    Is this a plot hole or does any1 have a good reason???
    Obviously the Megatons of energy would make life miles from Atlantis unlivable. Unlike a massive nuke attack there is no debris or blasts to deal wth just thermal energy release. The thermal release wouldn't be an issue for the planet but I'd imagine everything within a 10 mile radius would be dead from thermal and radiation release and the atmosphere in that area would be just like what was inside the ori shield in that one episode.

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    The energy enters plot holes and is lost forever.
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    Default Re: Where does the energy go???

    that energy would have been let off in heat and light, plus i assume most would be absorbed by the shield, not to recharge the shield, because we know that the shield can burn out if they are overtaxed

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    Wraith weapons have been calculated in the ranges of several megatons. If all of that energy was put off as heat, there would be a disastrous climatic impact.

    In-universe answer would probably have something to do with subspace, real answer is plot hole.

    Or magnets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sunrek View Post
    Wraith weapons have been calculated in the ranges of several megatons. If all of that energy was put off as heat, there would be a disastrous climatic impact.

    In-universe answer would probably have something to do with subspace, real answer is plot hole.

    Or magnets.
    Those aren't megaton (TNT equivelant) blasts or they would have smoked the dedy each time she was hit in various episodes with shields down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morrismike View Post
    Those aren't megaton (TNT equivelant) blasts or they would have smoked the dedy each time she was hit in various episodes with shields down.
    I agree. I don't think the blasts are as powerful as you believe, and the energy was probably turned in heat, sound, light and chocolate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiphias View Post
    I agree. I don't think the blasts are as powerful as you believe, and the energy was probably turned in heat, sound, light and chocolate.
    haha chocolate heat? ..that sounds good

    yea i dont think you can measure something on a tv show, theres a million UNKNOWN factors to consider, strength of shields, amount of power channeled, if that energy disapates some before hitting target etc.

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    heres a theory

    the shields put out power equal to the impact
    the resulting energy is then routed through the city in safe levels to the grounding stations where it is then dispersed over a period of time into the ocean

    it is 4 this reason that the zpm can be depleted so quickly having to keep the dispersion at safe levels 4 plant and animal life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cmdr. Setsuna F. Seyei View Post
    heres a theory

    the shields put out power equal to the impact
    the resulting energy is then routed through the city in safe levels to the grounding stations where it is then dispersed over a period of time into the ocean

    it is 4 this reason that the zpm can be depleted so quickly having to keep the dispersion at safe levels 4 plant and animal life.
    The oceans would boil around the ship with that much energy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morrismike View Post
    Those aren't megaton (TNT equivelant) blasts or they would have smoked the dedy each time she was hit in various episodes with shields down.
    If this is true then the blasts are not that powerful and there have been underwater nuclear tests on earth in the past.

    But I don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morrismike View Post
    Those aren't megaton (TNT equivelant) blasts or they would have smoked the dedy each time she was hit in various episodes with shields down.
    You have no idea of what kind of durability the hull has and for all you know its shielded or has replicator like energy sucking option, polarized plating or a shield in the hull like most star wars ships. The only way to measure it is to watch how much damage a ships weapons have on a target we can calculate and see how much the ship can take from the same weapons. then we can estimate how much a ship can take in DET (assuming its all DET and not exotic reaction being the probable explanation for hives to pose a problem to a ship that took a petaton natural phenomenon and came out much fine)

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