s01xE08 was a real StarGate adventure , I am happy with that.
s01xE08 was a real StarGate adventure , I am happy with that.
SG:U, being more serial in nature, is tending to avoid some of that phenomenon. Also, the presence of the two kinos in the final loop means that everything recorded will carry forward and influence the charactersAt the end of the episode, everything's always right back to normal."
— Fry, Futurama
If you're wondering how he eats & breathes, and other science facts...(la! la! la!)
Then repeat to yourself its just a show, I should really just relax.
I own "Future War"..I can put up with a lot
- Black Belt Test 10/24/2009 -
I'll try to answer the question about why some people continue watching SGU even if they're disappointed by it so far.
I think it's due to faithfulness and hope.
Many people have been fans of Stargate for 10 to 15 years. So it makes Stargate very much part of our life, and it has a very special place in our heart. It's like we saw a child being born and grow up.
As parents, we hope to see it mature in a way we approve.
If SGU was a new series, completely unrelated to the Stargate franchise, maybe some people wouldn't care so much, and just ignore it and watch something else. But IT'S STARGATE for crying out loud. That's why it has such an impact. We're not disappointed with things we don't care about, we're only disappointed with things that we care about.
I'm not discussing about what's good or bad in SGU, but why it matters so much for a lot of fans. We can't move on and stop watching it, because : it's "our show", the one we loved for more than a decade. (at least the one developped by Jonathan Glassner & Brad Wright, until Robert Cooper ugraded to exec...) We continue watching because we can't abandon a concept that we followed for such a long time, and we keep hope that they'll stop the silly melodrama between characters and come back to interesting stories about discovery of life at the end of the universe, solve interesting mysteries, learn interesting facts about the Ancients, see some interesting characters entertain us...
Yes, because it's part of Stargate, we'll watch it in spite of the dizzyness caused by this "artistic" way of shooting.
And also because NOT EVERYTHING is negative in SGU.
I mean, if we skip the few scenes that we don't like, there are some good things left. Personnally I like very much Rush's character.
But on a forum, it's always more tempting to write down what's bothering us than we we enjoyed...
Soon the show episodes will last only about 15min54sec. Just long enough to present the problem and expose the solution.
For example the episode "Water" could have been like this instead:
Water - Rush:"Theres the desert alien on the ship TJ. It takes our water." TJ:"Ok, guys, I got an idea. I'm going to put water in a bucket, trap the aliens in it and throw the aliens on the ice planet". Dramatic cut. End credit.
Episode 23: Aliens have taken over the Destiny. Greer and TJ are squalling in the air vent. TJ to Greer:"I'm going to release a sedative gaz in the air vent. You try to take over the apple room and push the button to open the ventilation system. Now put on this mask". Dramatic cut. End credit.
Water part2 -
Young:"Ok, we're going to go on this planet,cut ice block with this plasma cutter and use the kino sledge made by Eli to transport it."
Scott:" What are you going to do if, lets say, I fall into a hole"
Young:"I will never give up, Scott. Thats for sure. I will hang on to the rope I would have sent you as if my life was depending on it. We never know another quake could get you unstuck"
Scott:"Oh, ok, just wanted to be sure. You never know. Lets go!" Dramatic cut. End credit
Thanks for the answer,and I understand this very well. Easy to give something that we like a second chance and even more than a second. But anyway the once that hate it so much that they want it to be cancelled or believe since they dont like it every people that does like it is not as good fans as they them self are,and this is disturbing actually. For me,it does not matter people actual see me less as a fan of SG1/SGA ("the true Stargate"),I loved it. It`s a good answer you gave me,and it was what I thought,but its still strange how its possible to hate it in the grade some do and still watch it.
And by the way: I too am one of those that would like to see less drama and more exploring,but that (like others) I hope and believe will be better in future. And enemies is needed,or at least meeting others in space or on other planets. So... I am not without complaints,but I see so much Stargate in this that I enjoy it so far,with an exception of "Earth" I think every episode has been better than the one before. Much of the "drama stones" I would like to go away.
I actually realised about the same point as you. I very much feared than Vanessa James might be gone for good and I still had some doubts when Chloe died. It was a relief in a way when Young and Greer kicked it and I knew everyone would turn out okay
Even if everyone doesn't agree on the accuracy of the time-travel events or sequence and how the differing time lines interact with each other, I think we all have to agree that time-travel is a necessary component of the sci-fi genre. Even if a consensus can't be reached on how time-travel really works, it is still cool to wonder how it might.
Personally? I think the only show so far that has come closest to getting it right is 12 Monkeys...but that is just me.
Also, I don't know if it has been discussed yet, but the fact the stargate was able to make a connection while the solar flare was going on means (most likely) that the ancients probably had a few instances of accidental time-travel through the gate and incorporated a program in the DHD's of later versions of the gate to prevent such occurances (SG1, 1969). Gotta wonder how the ancients dealt with accidental time travel? The accidental discovery of time-travel probably compelled some of their scientists to study it and eventually make the time-travelling puddle jumper.
It's funny how so many discoveries arose from accidents in real life; Microwave ovens, artificial sweetener, silly-putty, the slinky, penecillin, etc. Just think where we would be if accidents didnt happen?
Since I am always, deliberately totally unspoiled when it comes to the eps. I loved this one. The surprises that came along kept my interest. I had no idea they were watching a kino record, and was really delighted that it was written in such a manner that it was a complete shock to see it unfold. I couldn't wait to see what was going to happen next.. And I loved the way they ended it.......fade to black.........cool.
no means no, and so does pepper spraySig by The Carpenter
Compared to the rest of the other SGU episodes this one is the best so far, in my opinion. Compared to my idea of a Stargate episode it was pretty good. A few things did upset me though. I didn't like how 3/4 of the episode was shot through the kino, it was very annoying. It was interesting touch, but not something I'd like to see repeated often. Something else was that Eli basically said he loved Chloe, and I don't like her at all. She makes me mad because she's sleeping with Scott, but always flirting with Eli. What did make me really mad was Chloe not staying dead. (I want her dead, just sharing my opinion). But I really liked the character interactions, and how it was a little less constant space drama. I thoroughly enjoyed the episode, mostly because for the first time since a few episode before SGA ended, I got my Stargate fix. After all I can only watch 3 movies, the pilot, and 15 seasons so many times till you crave something new.
Now I know why Greer said "You look ridiculous" to Eli
- Nov 2nd 2009 - Kino 1 is tossed into Wormhole.
- January 1st 2009 - Kino 1 lands.
Timeline 2 (continuing the random dates)
- Nov 1st 2009 - Kino 1 is discovered.
- Nov 2nd 2009 - Kino 1 is NOT thrown into the past.
If discovering the Kino meant it was never thrown back then how could they discover it to not to throw it back? i.e. the event of discovering the Kino destroys the events which caused it to be there in the first place...a grand father paradox.
Put it this way:
- If Event/Object A (discovering Kino)
- Produces B (Scott is not bitten by creature)
- B produces C (A different version of the Kino being tossed into the wormhole).
- Then C alters A
How can C exist to alter A if B never happened because of C? A grand father paradox.
So the only logical explanation I could muster is a 2nd timeline that 'split' off from the first on when the Kino first landed and then a 3rd etc.
I honestly thought this was a pretty good episode regardless of the what ifs or not. It brought a new insight and quite frankly never would've guessed at the end of the show they're back at square one.
And I still think one of the female characters (making a reference since I assume no spoilers here) should just stay dead.... good riddance... at least temporarily