Evil Rush

[renboy]

"Greer shot him!"

And the part where he tells Eli to stick his arm in the stargate, since he assumes the ancient have some safety protocols...

He never does those things himself, but somehow has a direct connection to them...

Evil.

[Detox]

"Greer shot him!"

And the part where he tells Eli to stick his arm in the stargate, since he assumes the ancient have some safety protocols...

He never does those things himself, but somehow has a direct connection to them...

Evil.

Greer did shoot him though...

[Jack_Bauer]

I wouldn't say those two scenarios would lead me to conclude that Rush is evil.

In both instances his actions were aimed at saving lives.

When he told Greer to shoot Franklin it effectively saved his life.

When he told Eli to put his arm in the "puddle" it was with the intention of saving the Destiny's crew.

[Pharaoh Atem]

rush may seem like a jerk but i think deep down right now he wants to save the crew and repair the ship.

[jelgate]

Rush isn't evil just a little selfish and amoral

[Mevi]

Rush asking for the device to be saved isn't wholly selfish. What if the3 people were to get eaten by a dinosaur or other terrible unknown on the other side of the gate with the remote? Can you say everyone dies?

While Rush may have wanted to save his own skin, I think he actually is concerned about getting to the ship to save the people (and save the ship, so they can find a way to steer it home - not necessarily to get the people home over getting humanity the ship itself...but it is a byproduct of his ambitions)

[Descended]

Given the established rules of the Stargates, he knew the gate wouldn't close on Eli's arm, since it has to wait for the matter to finish entering and Eli could always pull his hand out if needed, his only assumption was that the ship wouldn't jump to FTL with the Stargate open, which seems logical.

[Mevi]

Not necessarily - it isn't yet clear that the gate can't be open in FTL, nor is it clear whether or not the ship would be aware of an active gate, or have some sort of over ride(a sort of get the heck out of here override) or the safety system could have been damaged.

[Gallienus]

Actually; a minor point on the gate puddle itself. I recall in Stargate (1994 - the movie) a MALP got pulled into the wormhole when it extended its arm into the event horizon, this was when they were surveying Abydos to begin with. I'm only curious here, but has that "pull in" thing been superseded in the television segment of the franchise? Or did I just see things incorrectly?

Anyway to the point at hand, I don't see Rush as evil. Unscrupulous is a word I might use, certainly he seems more than ready to do whatever is practically required at any given moment. He seems willing to make the hard decisions other people would find interminably difficult. This can be an asset in such dangerous times, but I think its more complicated than that, he also seems to be pursuing an agenda all his own. And he already seems to display a penchant for dishonesty or shall we say, distorting the truth. Yeah Grier did fire the shot, but Rush neglected to mention he told him to do it. It's still too soon I think to really know what Rush is all about, if nothing else that's a reason to keep watching!

[Descended]

I'm only curious here, but has that "pull in" thing been superseded in the television segment of the franchise? Or did I just see things incorrectly?

Yes, people have been pulled back out of active wormholes when just their hands are still visible (i.e. 38 minutes on Atlantis)

[Shan Bruce Lee]

He's done a lot of things so far that are questionable or even wrong, but I don't think he's done anything that would be considered evil yet. YET!

[AtlantisForever]

rush may seem like a jerk but i think deep down right now he wants to save the crew and repair the ship.

have to agree. but his main goal is to fix the ship for his own benifit
if i was in his position i would be the same. ship comes first.

[Nitegate]

Rush told Greer to shoot the guy who was gonna leave with the device so they're stuck, how is that evil? they would have been totally screwed if Greer didn't do that.

[StarFighter]

Rush is proving to be an interesting character. He seems like he has an agenda but then he doesn't. His actions may seem harsh but they are logical.

[McgillionFan]

I'm not sure if he's evil but i have had the feeling that he's up to something.

I think whatever actions he takes is for himself. He puts himself first before anyone else on the ship. He's very driven and will do anything to get what he wants or needs to find whatever it is.

He's selfish.

[kbtkbt]

I agree with some of you. Rush might not be evil, but selfish and intellectual. He only cares about his project. He wants to save destiny and before that, he couldn't miss the chance to dial 9 chevron address while they were under attacked.

So far i can tell that he will do anything to save Destiny with disregard of others.

[thekillman]

rush isnt evil. he approaches things differently. and quite frankly, if he behaved like everyone else, they wouldve died already.


greer shot him. now, Young being Young, would probably ask what exactly happened. and Greer has an excuse: Rush told him to. infact, that was the very reason he shot so fast. Greer has an excuse and thus can blame rush.


rush isnt evil. more blunt and to the point.

[Descended]

It took a naquadria planet to dial the gate in the first place, I don't know why people don't understand that fixing the ship is NECESSARY. The others seem to hate Rush because he cares about the ship, but they ain't getting home without it.

I think the main reason that they distrust Rush is because he hasn't really explained to everyone why he didn't just send them to Earth. He mentioned it to Eli, but he didn't announce it openly.

He needs to say "Look people, I couldn't risk dialing earth with the planet exploding, we have seen explosions translate through the gates in the past, and if it had the gate on Earth would have been destroyed killing millions of people. I had to send us here."

[Nemises]

rush isnt evil. he approaches things differently. and quite frankly, if he behaved like everyone else, they wouldve died already.


greer shot him. now, Young being Young, would probably ask what exactly happened. and Greer has an excuse: Rush told him to. infact, that was the very reason he shot so fast. Greer has an excuse and thus can blame rush.


rush isnt evil. more blunt and to the point.

Agreed.

[Pat1487]

Honestly i cant get behind any of these characters

Eli and Scott are the only 2 i like right now, the rest seem like jerks, and the ones that arent jerks are just annoying

Anyway, about Rush
He gets the job done, but he does things like a <Snip>
He even tried taking command by saying he used the communication stones and Jack put him in charge, but then he objects when people want to confirm it

Hes not trying to keep everyone alive, hes trying to keep himself alive, and by extension that ends up including the others, since what will keep him alive will keep the others alive

The only reason I dont hate him is because he gave his water to Scott, and thats only because i like Scott