The Siege, Part 2 (120)

[alexia_star_2002]

I think that tayla gunned them down and that the new ship we have yet to see will have asgard beaming technology that will save sheppard in the last seconds before he tries to blow up one of the wraith ships. I am dissapointed that we will not see the next episode for 4 months but I have been watching sg1 long enough to know that this was a possibility. All in all im happy with the episodes but I wish they would have finished it out.

Yeah I know....I was so mad when it didn't finish.

[not so ancient]

My random tired-ass not so ancient thoughts, quickly before it storms, which always knocks out my power.

Colonel Everett = Purina Wraith Chow. He did grow to respect Weir by the end though. That's good.

Did Weir kick some ass going to the Genii all brave and defiant, or what? Love me some Elizabeth.

Where's Teyla? :::wibbles:::

FORD! :::wibbles some more::::

Rodney is probably about to literally die of exhaustion. Poor woobie! ::ets him, and slips him a mickey injection:::

Radek rocks. Carson rocked too but he needs to stop being a wuss about the Chair.

IS IT JULY YET?

[ShadowMaat]

Also what's going to happen to Sheppard...obviously he's going to die.

Obviously?! Umm... No. I can think of at least four separate ways for him to survive and considering that Shep is the main lead/hero of the show, I find it impossible to even conceive the idea that he WOULDN'T survive.

I mean, come on- how many times have we seen SG-1 or its various members in a situation where they were "obviously" going to die, only to have the day saved in the very next ep? And Daniel doesn't count.

I was again impressed by the VFX. The battle for the city was truly impressive and had a certain grim beauty to it.

I would LOVE for Teyla to go darkside and be possessed by a Wraith, even temporarily. I'm sorry and I know it's too cliche, but it's also the only time I've ever found the character remotely interesting. *sigh*

Ford was great. LOVED his bit about "Next time, YOU can be the bait!" The situation didn't look too good for him there at the end, but my fingers are crossed for good character development in the coming season. Yay for Ford! I hope...

[ancient_phoenix]

Well me and my friend were just talking about how the new ship will posses the asgard beaming technology and at the last sec might beam Sheppard out. Like today in SG-1 when O'Niel and the others got bombed and you saw the white light...that might happen and sheppard might wake up in the Ship....just a guess...

IS IT JULY YET??????!!!!!!!

[keshou]

The battle over the city was amazing. Fantastic special effects. Moebius 2 gets a few natives coming over the hill and Atlantis gets the "Shock and Awe". Lots of extras, lots of firepower - it was pretty impressive.

Colonel Everett was such a cliche but he ended up adding an interesting dimension to the mix. I liked that he came to respect Weir and I was pretty impressed with her in this myself. I think she almost comes off better when she's standing up to a Colonel Everett (or the Goa'uld) than when she's trying to be the main leader of Atlantis.

Rodney and Zelenka try and save the day but don't quite make it. That whole bit where the four scientists are standing at the railing grumbling about being left out of the meeting had me LOL.

I kind of liked Teyla in this one as well. I have to say I'm even growing fond of her little fighting displays with the sticks. Hmmm.....wonder if she will end up being captured by the Wraith and taken to one of the hive ships.

Shep's going to survive of course (probably when the Daedalus arrives) and I figure before Siege III ends he's going to have to kill Everett to save him from the Wraith. Just like Sumner. They love these full circle things.

Shep seemed so young in this compared to Colonel Everett. It makes you realize how young he was to be the ranking military officer at Atlantis. Guess this may change in S2.

[kadosho]

Its truly insane how much they could cram into one hour.
Awesome battles, visuals, action, and moments we wont forget.
But what bites the most? seeing TBC!!?

[Hyperspace]

This episode ROCKED!

[Merlin7]

The battle over the city was amazing. Fantastic special effects. Moebius 2 gets a few natives coming over the hill and Atlantis gets the "Shock and Awe". Lots of extras, lots of firepower - it was pretty impressive.

Colonel Everett was such a cliche but he ended up adding an interesting dimension to the mix. I liked that he came to respect Weir and I was pretty impressed with her in this myself. I think she almost comes off better when she's standing up to a Colonel Everett (or the Goa'uld) than when she's trying to be the main leader of Atlantis.

Rodney and Zelenka try and save the day but don't quite make it. That whole bit where the four scientists are standing at the railing grumbling about being left out of the meeting had me LOL.

I kind of liked Teyla in this one as well. I have to say I'm even growing fond of her little fighting displays with the sticks. Hmmm.....wonder if she will end up being captured by the Wraith and taken to one of the hive ships.

Shep's going to survive of course (probably when the Daedalus arrives) and I figure before Siege III ends he's going to have to kill Everett to save him from the Wraith. Just like Sumner. They love these full circle things.

Shep seemed so young in this compared to Colonel Everett. It makes you realize how young he was to be the ranking military officer at Atlantis. Guess this may change in S2.

I'm gonna save myself a bit of typing cause you touched on all the stuff I loved and thought of. Awesome Special effects. I hated Everett on sight but actually liked him by the end. And I agree about Weir, I liked her in this. She held her own. I also liked Shep sticking up for her and admitting he trusts her and respect her *Flashback to HOtZone* Teyla is quite the fighter, I must say. I had the same thought about Shep having to kill Everett and I would love to see that. Kinda don't want him saved by the Daedalus though. I'd like the writers to be more creative than that. LOL
And I had the same thought. That Shep seemed so YOUNG compared to Everett. Everett was supposed to be like 40. I know how old JOE is *Which still stuns me*. I know Shep is supposed to be like between 35 and 40 with Weir being around 35. But from day one she's struck me as around 40 with Shep closer to 30 and seeing Everett in the mix just made me think that more. Which works for me anyway. But..yeah..I digress.

Great ep. Wish it was July.

Oh..and Loved Rodney with Zalenka and the ticked off Scientists. LOL

[GhostPoet]

There was only one word said at the To Be Continued

"NOOOooooooooooo!!!!!"

[aaobuttons]

Oh the many reasons why this was the best episode ever! It was so completely amazing. They packing in so many things in such a short time, and unlike w/ SG1 it all had a good pace to nothing felt rushed or packed in.

Ford and Teyla.... I actually liked them in this episode! They had a purpose, they knew what they were doing and they did it well. When I saw that Teyla was missing on that scan of the dead I was so excited... if she goes bad there is no way arround it, she is way more interesting with her "gift".

Rod, Zel, Beck... Love these guys! They bring a balance to everything, they are the ones that make this a completely different show than SG1, not just a copy. Their many great lines and situations have already been talked about in this thread, so I won't go over them again. Did anybody else wonder if Rodney was going to point his gun a Beckett when he was sitting in the chair and wouldn't focus? With his lack of sleep, I was kind of waiting for Rodney to snap and point the gun at him and go "I said focus!" or something! *g* I also liked how after all the "scientists save the day" stuff, Rodney can't make the chair work in the end and the "military" guy has to.

Weir.... I like her more and more every episode, they are really writing some good stuff for her.

Shep... WOW, has my opinion of him changed from just this 1 episode. I always liked him, he was a well written character and had been given ok stuff to work with, but this episode.... From the scene w/ him backing up Weir to his confrontation w/ Everett, to his final scenes from the chair on were just amazing. I still can't figure out if it was the writing that has me or if it was his acting.... All I know is that he has gone from my 10th fav character in the gate universe to my 1st in just 1 episode!\

Oh, and I just wanted to add my kudos to the Special Effects guys, that city scene was AMAZING! That has to be the best battle I've seen on gate. Oh and I put my vote in favor of the city scans.... I like being able to see where they are in relation to everyone else. It's kind of hard to realize how big that city is sometimes, but that really puts it into perspective.

[SmartFox]

This was an awesome finale. I cant wait to July. The fight seen was awesome and the whole thing. The only problem i had was with Colonel Everett. First of all they bring in him for 1 episode then kill him off again like Sumner so Sheppard could be in charge again. Then they make him a standard military type and being sort of a jerk to Weir and Teyla but understandable. Then he does an instant turn around. I almost think it would of been better if they didn't bring him in at all.

[Yukmouth]

What was the deal with the uniforms those Marines were wearing? They weren't MARPAT.

Why didn't they bring any surface to air missles like the stinger or a Vulcan Air Defense System? Also why do they continue to have people shooting at aircraft with rifles and carbines? ESPECIALLY a P90 of all things! I know it scifi but I can't suspend my belief for stuff like this.

[Avalar]

One question - Sheppard is cloaked. How can we be so sure that the Daedalus will be able to detect a genuine cloaked Ancient ship? It'd be pretty hard to beam him out if they can't see him.

Then again, he might turn the cloak off if he sees the ship, and hail them and all that. But would Sheppard jeopardize his position like that? We'll have to wait till Part 3 to find out

Anyway, I knew this episode would receive positive feedback (I downloaded it a week before it aired because I wasn't able to see it on TV last night). It's truely a great episode and has one of the most stunning battle sequences seen on Stargate ever, SG-1 included (If not the most stunning, but the battle over Antarctica in Lost City II has its own merits as well). The character development was great, and I'm not so sure that Everett was killed. Did they show him dying? (Maybe they did, and I just don't remember).

[kharn the betrayer]

When i 1st heard Colonel Everett's voise it reminded me of watching a badly dubbed Godzilla movie....... then it became bearable when the episode went on



and the night fight scene was amazing


and Weir has grown on me alot, any one who can negotiate while being bound and gagged gets my respect


Teyla had her hair pulled back while she was fighting FINALLY

[iLemon]

Anyone know where I can get screencaps of moebius part 2??

[lord-anubis]

What was the deal with the uniforms those Marines were wearing? They weren't MARPAT.

Why didn't they bring any surface to air missles like the stinger or a Vulcan Air Defense System? Also why do they continue to have people shooting at aircraft with rifles and carbines? ESPECIALLY a P90 of all things! I know it scifi but I can't suspend my belief for stuff like this.

probly beacsue they were planing on the nukes to destory the ships.


as for the uninform thats the US new camo uninform its made by compter or some thing like that im not sure

[Fanwoman]

Also why do they continue to have people shooting at aircraft with rifles and carbines? ESPECIALLY a P90 of all things! I know it scifi but I can't suspend my belief for stuff like this.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who found that goofy. I'm also glad I'm not the only one who thought it was nuts to use your most valuable and most limited resource--the mines--so recklessly. Proximity sensors? Why not leave the same Jumpers that deployed them near enough to activate them remotely? Then there's the whole 6 mines in space being useful problem...

Of course, had the mines worked, that would have been the end of the episode.

Still, the pacing and action were great.


Did anyone else worry for Zelenka when he left the chair room unarmed by himself or for Carson when McKay left him in the chair alone when the city was crawling with Wraith? I was left wondering if they had intended those scenes to cause worry or not. I also think it's odd that the chair is not in the tower. You'd think a thing like that would be centrally located.


Oh, and my theory as to why Cowen wasn't the one to interact with Weir is that, with all the FX and props and stuff, they couldn't afford a guest appearance by Colm Meaney. A line to explain his absence would have been nice. Something to explain what happened with Sora might also have been nice. Poor girl, looks like she's going to fall through the cracks.

[ancient_phoenix]

The battle for the city was outstanding...it was INSANE!!

However..it does suck that the nukes got blown uo by the wraith asteroids.
And Weir...wow...thats the first time I've seen her pissed off. She was gonna beat the hell out of them Genni...or whatever they're called.

Teyla...why???

Why did she gun down the Air-men??
She did...didn't she??

[John Preston]

One question - Sheppard is cloaked. How can we be so sure that the Daedalus will be able to detect a genuine cloaked Ancient ship? It'd be pretty hard to beam him out if they can't see him.

They have a puddle jumper.
That means they might have acquired a means to detect the cloaked Ancient ships, by studying how the cloak works on their puddle jumper.

[GEWbert]

Probally not, i'm betting he just decloaks or something. We have to wait and see

And they were using the P90 and stuff because it actually is effective i think. Many bullets in a ship can still destroy it. What do you want them to do? Sit there and throw grenades?