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    Quote Originally Posted by TechnoWraith View Post
    I'm sorry for the sudden lack of activity on my end. I had a severe reaction from a medicine that was prescribed for me. Thus i almost ended up in the ER last night.
    Sorry to hear that.

    Quote Originally Posted by TechnoWraith View Post
    With recovering, i'm going to try and get things up and running again for the celebration. I'm reveiwing the OOC thread posts made since wednesday to see if anything is amiss or needs attention.
    We can keep the game paused as long as you need. If you don't feel up to it tomorrow just let us know and we can sort something out.

    Fandom Addict hasn't been on since the 5th. She's got an email contact option on her profile - she told me to use it to let her know when the game was going to start because she always checks her email even if she can't get on GateWorld. What I'll do today is email her and let her know how we'll get round Spike and Afa not turning up.if she can't make it when the Hive 95 event continues.

    I'll also send you a PM about how to describe Hive 95 since it's got it's own role playing thread. There's no rush for the information but it will save the question from getting buried under several pages of OOC posts.

    PS: Have now emailed Fandom Addict.
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    Discussion Point - I've had a go at redoing the rules to make them simpler. Please give me your opinions. The section about Borrowing still has considerable detail but Worshipping and where to post what have been pruned down -
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    The rules are dealt with under the headings of Borrowing, Worshipping and Posting In Appropriate Threads. The Borrowing section is the lengthiest because it has to cover what people should do if they want to Borrow a character and what the owners of the characters should do if they receive such requests.

    Borrowing

    1: Do not Borrow other players' characters without permission. Borrowing covers the following -

    • Role playing them in the game by making them do something, say something or accompany your own characters anywhere.
    • Including them in a game related mini fic.


    Other peoples' characters covers the following -

    • Players' game alter egos
    • Adopted characters
    • Original characters


    The Character Owners Guide lists (a) who owns which character (b) whether the owner is willing to let another player Borrow a character with permission and (c) any players who have been given permanent permission to Borrow a character. for role playing, mini fics or both.

    2: How to Borrow or lend a character.

    a: If you want to Borrow a character for role playing, a mini fic, or both contact the owner by way of visitor message or private message.

    b: If you agree to lend a character post an announcement in OOC chat. Give the name of the player who is Borrowing the character and state whether the loan is for the purpose of a mini fic, role playing or both. If you aren't happy with the result of the other player's Borrowing, sort it out between yourselves by private message. If you decide that you not longer wish this player to use your character post an announcement in this thread stating the names of the player and character concerned.

    c: If you give another player permanent permission to Borrow a character post an announcement in OOC chat. State.whether the permanent permission is for role paying only, mini fics only or both role playing and mini fics. The Character Owner Guide can then be updated accordingly.

    d: If you've been given permission to Borrow other peoples' characters please keep them in character whether you're role playing them or including them in a mini fic. This doesn't mean you can never introduce them to anything new or put them into unfamiliar situations but ask yourself how these particular characters would react according to their personalities before doing so. The Game Characters Guide gives basic details for each developed character in the game world such as personality traits, occupations, hobbies, relationships and any important facts concerning their pasts etc. We hope this will be a useful resource for players who have permission to Borrow someone else's character.

    3: Essential Characters. These are characters who perform an important function in the game world. They have owners but are role played by ciannwn, Draygon and Draco-Stellaris so they can be available for other characters to interact with if the owner isn't participating the game. These essential characters are special cases in some respects and here are two examples -

    Zaddik is a herbalist who makes remedies such as hangover cures and natural beauty products such as shampoos and hair conditioners. He lives and works in the Hippie Commune so anyone can announce they're going to visit him to get whatever is needed. A player can also say he advised their game alter ego to try something new. This won't be counted as Borrowing because acting as a consultant is part of Zaddik's role in the community.

    Gabriel runs the Atlantis Personnel Takeaway. Saying that one of your characters has placed an order or is going to feed on a completed order won't be counted as Borrowing because producing clones for Wraith food is his role in the community.

    Worshipping


    Do not role play your characters Worshipping other peoples' characters without permission. Worshipping, in the context of the Character Owners Guide, covers the following -

    • Hugging.
    • Kissing
    • Anything beyond that.


    For further explanation of the term see - What does the word 'Worshipping' mean in the Character Owners Guide?' in Introduction Part One.

    If players find that their characters have developed relationships over the course of the game, the Character Owners Guide can be updated where these characters are concerned. Other players will then have essential information such as Miss X is happy to be hugged and kissed by her boyfriend but doesn't want every male in the game world hugging and kissing her whenever they feel like it.

    Posting in appropriate threads.

    1: The role playing threads are for role playing content only with one exception.

    If something in a role playing post requires an explanation, an explanation can be presented in the following format at the end of the post as long as it is short and precise. An explanation which requires more than this should be posted in OOC chat. Here is an example.

    (OOC: in reality, the event will post on tuesday, but the exact time won't likely be 7pm EST, US. But sometime in the late afternoon or evening).

    2: If you know you're going to be absent from the role playing for a long period of time. Post an announcement in OOC chat eg- I have to go for a couple of hours now or it's late so I'm off to bed.

    3: Game related issues which require players being out of character These posts go into OOC chat. Game related issues include (1) questions about anything to do with the game (2) discussions about whether or not to add a new role playing thread etc. (3) new/updated character guides and new/updated information about borrowing and sharing.

    4: Game related mini fics, artwork and signatures These posts go into OOC chat along with any comments other players wish to make about them.

    5: Fanfic, signatures and artwork not related to the game These posts should to into whichever GateWorld forum threads are the most appropriate.

    6: General thunking over SGA characters, everyday chat and discussions about characters and stories in Stargate Atlantis These posts should go into whichever GateWorld forum threads are the most appropriate. The Wraith Defenders Club in the Stargate Atlantis forum is a popular thread for discussing Wraith as they were presented in the show.

    7: Game Guides Thread. Nothing must be posted in the Game Guides thread by anyone other than the game organisers (ciannwn, Draygon, Starry Waters, Todd's Pet and Draco-Stellaris.
    Last edited by ciannwn; May 9th, 2009 at 05:24 AM. Reason: changed gabriel entry to read his role in the community

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    That does look a lot clearer now You've been doing a good job on all of these Ciannwn

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    Discussion Point Had to start a new post because I'm in danger of hitting the dreaded character limit.

    This discussion concerns Joining And Inactivity.

    It starts with instructions for people who were playing in the thunk threads. I think everyone from there who is interested in joining has done so although I'm not entirely sure about WraithHumour who adopted Sally. I checked his profile and he hasn't been online since April 25th.

    Do you think I should delete the information for people in the thunk threads now and send WraithHumour a PM about needing Sally in the game world but we won't put her up for adoptiion yet?

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    Good morning everybody...

    Did I miss anything last night? I spotted technowraith has been unwell, and all the amendments, btw (good job ciannwn) so am up to date with regard to that.
    It's always darkest before the dawn... (Florence + The Machine)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isolde View Post
    Did I miss anything last night? I spotted technowraith has been unwell, and all the amendments, btw (good job ciannwn) so am up to date with regard to that.
    That's about it because we're getting used to putting all the important game updates etc in OOC chat.

    The new Introduction Part One and Part Two have now replaced what we had originally.

    Quote Originally Posted by Draygon
    That does look a lot clearer now
    Does that mean you think the revised rules should replace what we've already got? I still need at least one other person to say go ahead before I actually do it, though.

    I'll rewrite the Joining instructions without the information for players who used to be in the thunk threads. This will save time while I'm waiting for people give me their opinions on what we should do about WraithHumour.

    My own opinion on this is that the stuff for players who used to be in the thunk threads is going to be confusing for new players who were never in them - they need to know what they should do without having to hunt down the page for it. As WraithHumour is just one person it won't take me long to copy and past the original instructions into a PM and send it to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ciannwn View Post

    Does that mean you think the revised rules should replace what we've already got? I still need at least one other person to say go ahead before I actually do it, though.

    I'll rewrite the Joining instructions without the information for players who used to be in the thunk threads. This will save time while I'm waiting for people give me their opinions on what we should do about WraithHumour.

    My own opinion on this is that the stuff for players who used to be in the thunk threads is going to be confusing for new players who were never in them - they need to know what they should do without having to hunt down the page for it. As WraithHumour is just one person it won't take me long to copy and past the original instructions into a PM and send it to him.
    The revised rules are ok, but I still think there's a lot of paragraph to plough through. Could you bullet point the salient bits so people can skip to that, keeping it really short for those of us with goldfish attention span? It's starting to look like a piece of legislation and a Green Paper.

    I think sending WraithHumour a PM is a very good idea.

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    I agree with the new rules and I think sending WraithHumor a PM is also a good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isolde View Post
    The revised rules are ok, but I still think there's a lot of paragraph to plough through. Could you bullet point the salient bits so people can skip to that?
    I'm not sure what you mean about people skipping to the salient points.

    I've just experimented with using the List formatting option. The first is an ordered list. The second is an unordered list.

    Borrowing

    Do not Borrow other players' characters without permission. Borrowing covers the following -

    1. Role playing them in the game by making them do something, say something or accompany your own characters anywhere.
    2. Including them in a game related mini fic.


    Other people's characters covers the following -

    • Players' game alter egos
    • Adopted characters
    • Original characters


    Quote Originally Posted by Isolde View Post
    I think sending WraithHumour a PM is a very good idea.
    OK. That's one vote for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ciannwn View Post
    I'm not sure what you mean about people skipping to the salient points.

    I've just experimented with using the List formatting option. The first is an ordered list. The second is an unordered list.
    Spoiler:
    Borrowing

    Do not Borrow other players' characters without permission. Borrowing covers the following -

    1. Role playing them in the game by making them do something, say something or accompany your own characters anywhere.
    2. Including them in a game related mini fic.


    Other people's characters covers the following -

    • Players' game alter egos
    • Adopted characters
    • Original characters

    Maybe Isolde meant it to be FAQ style like the new intro? That would be my guess.

    Of the two lists I prefer the second one with the dots instead of numbers.

    OK. That's one vote for it.
    Two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Stellaris View Post
    Maybe Isolde meant it to be FAQ style like the new intro? That would be my guess.
    I can't think of a way to do it in FAQ style.

    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Stellaris View Post
    Of the two lists I prefer the second one with the dots instead of numbers.
    I'm having a go at reformatting everything using the Unordered List style


    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Stellaris View Post
    Two.
    I'll just try making it look a bit less first before putting it up.

    What do you think about deleting instructions for thunk thread players from the Joining instructions and sending a PM to WraithHumour?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ciannwn View Post
    What do you think about deleting instructions for thunk thread players from the Joining instructions and sending a PM to WraithHumour?
    I absolutely agree. By now every regular thunker has turned up here apart from WraithHumor and geekywraith.

    We don't need the first paragraph anymore and sending a PM is fine by me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Stellaris View Post
    I absolutely agree. By now every regular thunker has turned up here apart from WraithHumor and geekywraith.

    We don't need the first paragraph anymore and sending a PM is fine by me.
    I'll do that when I've figured out how to do the posting in the right places section of the rules.

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    Game Discussion Point

    I have tried reformatting what will be the Rules Page. Even if you've already checked the content, I need everyone to look at the new formatting and say if they think it's an improvement or not.

    Reformatted Rules Page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ciannwn View Post
    Game Discussion Point

    I have tried reformatting what will be the Rules Page. Even if you've already checked the content, I need everyone to look at the new formatting and say if they think it's an improvement or not.

    Reformatted Rules Page.
    It looks clear and neat. IMO a new player will have no difficulties in reading and comprehending it. I think it's very good.

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    3: Posting in appropriate threads.

    a: The role playing threads are for role playing only. If nobody has posted anything in one for several hours, add a role playing post if you want to and then go elsewhere until somebody else has added something. Do not make posts saying things like "Where has everyone gone?"

    There is one exception concerning OOC content. If something in a role playing post requires an explanation, an explanation can be presented in the following format at the end of the post as long as it is short and precise. An explanation which requires more than this should be posted in OOC chat. Here is an example.

    (OOC: in reality, the event will post on Tuesday, but the exact time won't likely be 7pm EST, US. But sometime in the late afternoon or evening).


    • RPG threads purely for role playing. No other posts allowed.



    b: If you know you're going to be absent during part of the role playing post an announcement in OOC chat e.g.- I have to go for a couple of hours now or it's late so I'm off to bed.


    • Post regarding your absences from thread/s in OOC.



    c: Game related issues which require players being out of character go into OOC chat. These include (1) questions about anything to do with the game (2) discussions about whether or not to add a new role playing thread etc. (3) new/updated character guides and new/updated information about borrowing and sharing.

    d: Game related mini fics, artwork and signatures go into OOC chat along with any comments other players wish to make about them.


    • Game issues out of character/unrelated: minific, art, discussion, updates, signatures posted in OOC.


    That's what I meant by salient points. I understand you need to include examples but sometimes a simpler format is better. People get bored otherwise, and will miss something because they skip ahead.

    Hope you don't mind me pointing this out.

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    My little one woke up from his midday nap and wants his lunch. See you later.

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    I was a bit slow responding to you, ciannwn, my apologies, and DS answered my post beautifully. I had things to do, as it is my first day off after seven hellish ones (Child Protection Strategy Meetings and idiot social workers send you a bit loopy), so was AFK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isolde View Post
    • RPG threads purely for role playing. No other posts allowed.
    The bit about adding an OOC note at the bottom of role playing posts is essential information because some new people mightn't have been involved in a formal, online, role playing game before. The example shows the format which should be used for an OOC note and the link directs them to the post in which this particular note was used - it should give them a better idea of what these notes are supposed to be for.

    I'll change it to the following.

    a: The role playing threads are for role playing content only with one exception.

    If something in a role playing post requires an explanation, an explanation can be presented in the following format at the end of the post as long as it is short and precise. An explanation which requires more than this should be posted in OOC chat. Here is an example.

    (OOC: in reality, the event will post on Tuesday, but the exact time won't likely be 7pm EST, US. But sometime in the late afternoon or evening).[/quote]


    Quote Originally Posted by Isolde View Post
    • Post regarding your absences from thread/s in OOC.
    We don't need people to tell us if they're going to the bathroom and will be back in five minutes. I could change this to emphasise a long period, though. The examples will then show that we regard a couple of hours as being a long period if we're very active in a role playing thread.

    b: If you know you're going to be absent from the role playing for a long period of time. Post an announcement in OOC chat e.g.- I have to go for a couple of hours now or it's late so I'm off to bed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Isolde View Post
    • Game issues out of character/unrelated: minific, art, discussion, updates, signatures posted in OOC.
    That's fine for people who already know what game related issues are. I think that people who have just joined us, though, need some explanation concerning what we're on about such as the kind of updates we want people to post in OOC chat. (new/updated character guides and new/updated information about borrowing and sharing.)


    Quote Originally Posted by Isolde View Post
    I understand you need to include examples but sometimes a simpler format is better. People get bored otherwise, and will miss something because they skip ahead.
    If new people get bored that easily they're likely to skip ahead whenever they see a long role playing post. This could lead them to miss something vitally important so their own role playing post doesn't make any sense in the context of what's gone before.

    Quote Originally Posted by Isolde View Post
    Hope you don't mind me pointing this out.
    I'm all for simplifying things but I don't think we should present everything for people who have the attention span of gnats when it comes to reading instructions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ciannwn View Post
    I'm all for simplifying things but I don't think we should present everything for people who have the attention span of gnats when it comes to reading instructions.
    We should maintain a certain intellectual standard here.

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