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    Visit the Episode GuideDOLLHOUSE SEASON ONE
    NEEDS
    EPISODE NUMBER - 108

    Echo and a group of Actives try to escape the Dollhouse after waking up as their original selves, with no knowledge of where they are.

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    Am I the only one who saw this episode?
    I think it's getting better with every episode.
    She's original...

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    Yea, no thread for this??

    Anyway, it was a good episode. It was great to get an idea of the backstory of Sierra and November, but I wish there was a little bit of something more for Victor.

    I wonder why those 4 Dolls (Echo, Sierra, November, and Victor) are the ones are most affected by whatever weirdness is going on? It has to be more than a coincidence that they're all in the same room. Could the bed that Mike (was it Mike? the blonde guy Doll) is in was previously occupied by Alpha and it's tied to those events?

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    We know, that Echo was in the same room with Alpha, and he spared her life only. So it's a good question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pjt View Post
    We know, that Echo was in the same room with Alpha, and he spared her life only. So it's a good question.
    Ah right. I had thought that when they said he only spared Echo they meant that she was the only one in the room at the time. Then I guess if the previous occupants died, Victor and November must be pretty new Dolls just like Sierra. Hmm.

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    Pretty awesome episode. Totally awesome, I am almost certain the mole is not the psychologist. It be to obvious. But the fact that dolls keep going psycho in those pods, I suspect they are not getting the same medication as everyone else is through.
    The English women have not got a clue of what the dollhouse greater purpose is either.

    The whole set up was perfect. The trickery in story telling was alright.

    The fact that at least two of them suffered losses before becoming dolls is interesting.

    I think the dollhouse is becoming more ensemble of cast than the first few episodes were which has led to great improvement.
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    It kinda sucks that the show is starting to pick up now that it's pretty obvious it's gonna be canceled. I just hope JW realizes that and gives the show a decent finale instead of what happened to FireFly.

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    : whines : Come on guys turn this thread into a sticky.

    I really, really liked this episode and yeah "Dollhouse" is getting better and better with each episode. I am really happy about that I also do not think the psychologist is the mole.

    I just loved how the original personalities of the dolls came through - even without their memories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shan Bruce Lee View Post
    It kinda sucks that the show is starting to pick up now that it's pretty obvious it's gonna be canceled. I just hope JW realizes that and gives the show a decent finale instead of what happened to FireFly.
    Why do you think its going to get cut?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nylon View Post
    Why do you think its going to get cut?
    Its ratings are beyond poor for a primetime show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jelgate View Post
    Its ratings are beyond poor for a primetime show.
    and to add to that, a primetime show on a broadcast network. If that same show were getting those same viewer numbers on the SciFi channel it would be the highest rated show on the network.

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    At the moment Dollhouse feels more like it should have been a movie than a TV series.

    Needs was a pretty descent episode compared to the dreadfull one last week. The best episode was probably 'man on the street' (ironically the man on the street part was dreadful!). I don't think the actors and the girl playing Echoe got enough range for this particular show. For example, she felt ridiculous in the negociator role, in the second episode I think. While she was comfortable in the "girlfriend on a hiking trip then hunted down".

    The best part of Needs was the fact that it was more of an ensemble episode than the others like someone already mentionned on this thread. But I don't know really how they could do that every week. Group assignment?

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    Till Darren gets a chance to create the official Episode thread with the links and codes,I'm stickying this one .
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    Quote Originally Posted by lunarleviathan View Post
    Ah right. I had thought that when they said he only spared Echo they meant that she was the only one in the room at the time. Then I guess if the previous occupants died, Victor and November must be pretty new Dolls just like Sierra. Hmm.
    Considering the alphabet it makes sense that those three are newer than Echo...although I wonder if they assign the names new again when the old one leaves/dies/whatever?
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    Quote Originally Posted by billy_red_ocean View Post
    Considering the alphabet it makes sense that those three are newer than Echo...although I wonder if they assign the names new again when the old one leaves/dies/whatever?
    I think assigning names is pretty much based on the leaves/die basis. its been stated that Sierra is the newest doll and is definatly newer that November and Victor, because when we were told that Sierra was new, both Victor an November were both "undercover".

    As for the episode itself i enjoyed it. I kinda new going into it, that there would a reset at the end of the episode. Was nice to get some back story on November and Sierra, and good to get an introduction to more dolls, Mike and Tango. Shame there was backstory for Victor.

    The numbers look pretty dire, wish is a shame because of the potensial im starting to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madwelshboy View Post
    I think assigning names is pretty much based on the leaves/die basis. its been stated that Sierra is the newest doll and is definatly newer that November and Victor, because when we were told that Sierra was new, both Victor an November were both "undercover".

    As for the episode itself i enjoyed it. I kinda new going into it, that there would a reset at the end of the episode. Was nice to get some back story on November and Sierra, and good to get an introduction to more dolls, Mike and Tango. Shame there was backstory for Victor.

    The numbers look pretty dire, wish is a shame because of the potensial im starting to see.
    Ah see, I had forgotten about that.
    The paper work on the dolls must be a b****
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    This was a really interesting episode. The people in charge have finally acknowledged that it's not all gone when they wipe the Dolls. The fact that Echo et al had to be given back some of their memories to resolve their problems is fascinating. Their perfect dolls are not so perfect after all! I'm really looking forward to seeing how all of this changes our main Dolls going forward.

    I am still undecided who the spy is though. But it definitely has to be someone with access.

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    I'm not ready to write Dr. Saunders off as the mole just yet. Even though it turned out to be her idea to hit the reset button with them in this way (and nice little reveal there at the end that it was her idea), I think it could be her way of sparing them from the attic, which is an even worse fate.

    Made her seem cold, but if she is the mole, it might take some attention away from her if the DH suspects a mole.

    There are just not that many choices for who the mole is IF there is even a mole. Heck the little implanted message may have just been the Dollhouse screwing with Ballard yet again.


    Anyway I guess the main dolls in the show are back to square one as far as their identities go. Just when they start to get some individual character, they become blank slates again....
    IMO always implied.

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    Overall, the episode is an interesting study in human psychology.
    So that was why Mellie signed across the dotted line. Poor lass.

    I also think that Saunders was trying to protect the actives from a fate worse than death although I'm not sure that she is the "insider".

    But I'm really curious about the attic... is it a metaphor or real place? Is it like Bluebeard's attic, stacked with bodies in pods?

    Nice to see Morena Baccarin as a handler? if only for a few seconds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoneStar1836 View Post
    I'm not ready to write Dr. Saunders off as the mole just yet. Even though it turned out to be her idea to hit the reset button with them in this way (and nice little reveal there at the end that it was her idea), I think it could be her way of sparing them from the attic, which is an even worse fate.

    Made her seem cold, but if she is the mole, it might take some attention away from her if the DH suspects a mole.

    There are just not that many choices for who the mole is IF there is even a mole. Heck the little implanted message may have just been the Dollhouse screwing with Ballard yet again.


    Anyway I guess the main dolls in the show are back to square one as far as their identities go. Just when they start to get some individual character, they become blank slates again....
    I suspected her, too but although on the one hand it would make sense on the other hand I somehow think it would be too obvious.

    Quote Originally Posted by Easter Lily View Post
    Overall, the episode is an interesting study in human psychology.
    So that was why Mellie signed across the dotted line. Poor lass.

    I also think that Saunders was trying to protect the actives from a fate worse than death although I'm not sure that she is the "insider".

    But I'm really curious about the attic... is it a metaphor or real place? Is it like Bluebeard's attic, stacked with bodies in pods?

    Nice to see Morena Baccarin as a handler? if only for a few seconds.
    Really? Where I missed that.
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