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    Visit the Episode GuideHEROES SEASON THREE
    INTO ASYLUM
    EPISODE NUMBER - 321

    On the run from the organization he created, Nathan takes Claire south of the border. Sylar offers to help Danko find the man who killed three of his men, while Angela Petrelli -- now hunted herself -- seeks insight into where to go next.

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    Is it just me or would the wholen religeous begging scene have been a super cool way for peter to get his powers back and then go kick some hunter ass before making a great escape

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    I personally thought this episode was a bit slow. Mrs Angela Petrelli story was a big let down, I wanted details and flash backs.

    I thought Claire and Nathan story was a fun diversion. I am never entering a drinking contest against Claire. Through I have manage 31 shots in a row, but it was not a pretty site afterwards, and my mate manage beat me with 40 but he regretted it the next day, the rest of the weaklings gave out at 20 and 23.

    The Sylar was good but made the Hunter look like a amateur. I am wondering where Microwave kid gone to or is he brain goo.

    Hunter is so dead. And Sylar is his replacement .
    Enjoyed the shape shifter, but I so wanted him to beat them two.

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    sylar, that's was my highlight. He was just awesome in this episode. And how they tricked Noah, genius! The Claire-Nathatn side story was interesting. I also thought that Peter would have gotten his powers back when he was doing the religous begging scene. He better get it back facing Sylar down in some church and when Sylar is about to kill him, he suddenly can use ALL of Sylar's powers and they both go full out. Still, a good episode overall.

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    Very good episode last night. This Volume has been very strong. The highlight of the night though - definitely Sylar. That guy is so bad-***!

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    Slow, and i wanted Peter to get his powers back too. It would have made sense. i noticed Angela kept touching his hands and the powers never transferred over? is that a plot hole or what. Whats the point in having Sylar all powerful if there is noone like peter to match him. Not a big fan of his link up either would prefer them working on there own as bad guys with there own agendas.

    Pretty good episode better now Nathan isn't trying to be the bad guy. didn't make much sense.

    one last note. BRING BACK PETERS AND HIROS POWERS NOW.

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    oh and anyone get the impression Sylar would go after Molly as she could pin point any of the people with abilities?

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    Good episode.

    Peter´s begging scene did seem to help confirm my theory that Peter´s powers are still fully functional but because they are based on empathy and Peter has become very cynical and alienated from everyone he´s lost the ability to absorb powers by proximity and can only do so by making a direct, physical contact.

    Syler is getting back into the form we all know and love from the first season. His emo phase seems to be over and he knows what he wants to do and is going after it with all the psychotic glee we could ever hope for.

    Claire seems to be getting more and more tolerable, she has more or less stopped whining about everything and hopefully will along with Nathan start to become more proactive. I also want Claire to to things for reasons other then to get back at daddy (either of them).

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrodwell View Post
    i noticed Angela kept touching his hands and the powers never transferred over? is that a plot hole or what.
    No. It has happened before this volume. We can deduce that he has to want to take the power for him to take it- but the first time when he took Tracey's power he was distracted and accidentally took it.

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    I think the episode was a bit slow, was more about set up than anything else. I thought that Milo and Cristine really brought it in the chruch scenes, acting as a good set up for the Angela centric episode (23) "1961". (cant wait!!!) The Sylar storyline final becomes a bit more relevant to the over all plot of the volume. I like the more realistic shapeshifting that they came up with compared to the x-men movie type shapeshifting and will no doubt play an important part in things to come. Claire/Nathan was abit of a distraction that was bit meh, but needed to bring them closer together.

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    Episode 3x21 Into Asylum - Deleted Scene

    Here is one of those rare moments where we actually get so see a deleted scene from an episode.

    This is a scene right after the drinking challenge Nathan and Claire have with the Frat boys.

    http://spoilertv-heroes.blogspot.com...ted-scene.html

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    nathan said denko couldnt get them in mexico, yet he could get hiro and ando in japan hows that make sense, if anything it would be harder to get someone out of japan, denko is also obviously an idiot so hes going to make the most dangerous person with abilities more powerful to get rid of other people with abilities and he cant't see how that might backfire

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    Which ability did Syler use when he was in Danko's car? One second he was there, the next he is standing on a rooftop. Did i miss something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contraban View Post
    Which ability did Syler use when he was in Danko's car? One second he was there, the next he is standing on a rooftop. Did i miss something?
    Nope he certainly learnt a few new tricks since the last time we saw him on the hunt.

    Episode 3x21 Into Asylum - Deleted Scene

    Here is one of those rare moments where we actually get so see a deleted scene from an episode.

    This is a scene right after the drinking challenge Nathan and Claire have with the Frat boys.

    http://spoilertv-heroes.blogspot.com...ted-scene.html
    The episode certainly makes more sense with that scene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contraban View Post
    Which ability did Syler use when he was in Danko's car? One second he was there, the next he is standing on a rooftop. Did i miss something?


    it's a new ability called plothole creation.

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    I can understand why this wasn't the episode for everyone. In a lot of ways, this reminded me of the current "Terminator" series. Rather than focus on action, this was an episode about character. For some shows, this is hardly worthy of note, but for "Heroes", it's a rather big shift. And more importantly, the character exploration was actually well done. It wasn't fast-paced, but it made sense.

    The episode focused mostly on three plots in rotation: Peter and Angela, Nathan and Claire, and Danko and Sylar. Two of the threads are fairly introspective, even if they bring characters to an important step along their respective paths. The third plot thread is a bit more active, but serves to begin clarifying some of the mess from Volume Three.

    Angela is clearly going to play a stronger role in the balance of this volume, bringing together the metahumans based on her precognitive dream. This is not particularly new to the series, of course, but I liked how it was treated in this instance. It wasn't about puzzling over yet another set of Tim Sale drawings, delaying understanding and action. This was about giving Angela the peace of mind necessary to use her ability to everyone's advantage. Finding a kind of peace with Peter was necessary to that end. As such, their time in the church was as much about Peter finding his way as it was Angela getting what she needed.

    I've often felt that Peter was designed to be the leader of the "good" metahumans, because of the scale of his power. The writers have adjusted that to make Peter less of a "superman", and this should push him to work with others to combat the common threat. If the previous volumes have told us anything, it's that the Petrellis have always tried to lead the metahumans through their own self-generated crises. They typically fail based on their human weaknesses. So this could be a step in the right direction, if they can begin learning from their mistakes.

    Nathan is certainly no better than Peter. Nathan has the leadership skills (or he wouldn't be persuasive enough to be a successful politician), but he lacks innate common sense. He's not nearly as clever or aware as he seems to think he is. Claire is probably the last person to call Nathan on his shortcomings, given her track record of leaping before looking, but she's probably going to be the catalyst to get the rest of the Petrelli brood in gear. (And I must say, Hayden is gorgeous in this episode, particularly the first half!)

    If the two Petrelli-dominated plot threads are meant to point towards potential leadership for the "heroes", then Danko's alliance with Sylar is clearly meant to elevate him back to the role as the main antagonist. This is where Sylar should have started at the beginning of Volume Three, frankly, and his manipulation of Danko is nearly perfect. Now that Sylar is thought to be dead, and he can assume any appearance, he can do just about anything. In fact, it wouldn't be all that surprising if he killed Danko and took his place.

    Considering how long I've been pointing out the lack of clear and logical motivations for the characters, this is a very good sign. It gives me hope that the remainder of the season will course-correct the series and start repairing the damage that Volume Three had caused.

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    I don't like the idea of Sylar having the shape-shifting power, it makes him too powerful. I wouldn't mind so much if they hadn't nerfed Peter's ability. There seems to be no balance to Sylar's power anymore and I really can't see a reasonable way around that fact, especially if he starts acquiring new powers and nobody other than himself and Danko know about it.

    For once Claire was well written in this episode. She finally felt like the character she was during season 1 and not some hyper active pest. I enjoyed her scenes with Nathan even though they were entirely character-centric.

    Angela has a mystery sister... right. Not sure where that's going, but introducing even more long lost family members is a bad sign. How often does this show play that card?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lunarleviathan View Post
    I don't like the idea of Sylar having the shape-shifting power, it makes him too powerful.
    Indeed. Now you could actually imagine a future in which no one knows Sylar is alive. A future in which Nathan Petrelli becomes the president, and is later killed and replaced by shapeshifting Sylar. A future in which heroes would be split into two factions, with Sylar leading the nation and Peter as the leader of the rebels. If only the writers had thought of something cool like that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ipp0 View Post
    Indeed. Now you could actually imagine a future in which no one knows Sylar is alive. A future in which Nathan Petrelli becomes the president, and is later killed and replaced by shapeshifting Sylar. A future in which heroes would be split into two factions, with Sylar leading the nation and Peter as the leader of the rebels. If only the writers had thought of something cool like that!
    That future was terrible (the explosion part was good, but president Sylar was random). On the plus side, if they were to pick up that thread again -- or something similar -- at least he wouldn't be a powerful as if he had actually acquired Candice's Illusion power that he was using during that future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lunarleviathan View Post
    I don't like the idea of Sylar having the shape-shifting power, it makes him too powerful. I wouldn't mind so much if they hadn't nerfed Peter's ability. There seems to be no balance to Sylar's power anymore and I really can't see a reasonable way around that fact, especially if he starts acquiring new powers and nobody other than himself and Danko know about it.

    For once Claire was well written in this episode. She finally felt like the character she was during season 1 and not some hyper active pest. I enjoyed her scenes with Nathan even though they were entirely character-centric.

    Angela has a mystery sister... right. Not sure where that's going, but introducing even more long lost family members is a bad sign. How often does this show play that card?
    The thing that bothers me is that this is precisely why they nerfed Peter in the first place; he was too powerful for anyone to fight against and win. And yet now they do the same thing to Sylar (with no more Peter to match him) and apparently it's not big deal? It unbalances the show... no one can realistically kill Sylar now.
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