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    Hey all!

    I'm the visual effects supervisor for Atlantis and wanted to invite you to post me comments on the show's effects. I'm looking for constructive comments that help me understand how people who are watching the show for the first time see what we've created. Normally, by the time a show has gone through post production, I've watched it about 300 times... so the shots start to melt together and don't have the same impact they would when you see a finished shot for the first time...

    I'm looking for insightful observations only please, both good and bad! The aim is to better understand the way we see things, verses the way we create things in our heads. The more we understand the process, the more we can build better worlds for you all.

    I'm running a website called, vfxsoup which details the work of visual effects supervisors, and interviews people from the visual effects industry (including James Tichenor who did the effects for Stargate and now works on Kingdom Hospital)... I've created forums there to discuss these subjects and invite you all to direct the comments there, as it is the best way for me to see you ideas and thoughts...

    We're already at episode 8, and I can't wait to shoot this latest episode, the opening shot will blow you away... It's simply the best thing I've ever personally done and the team I work with is open to the most wacky of my creative ideas... so in return, I'm open to your comments and suggestions!

    Fire away, but be kind, a great many people on this show work very hard making these pictures for you!

    Mark Breakspear
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    Cool site, can't wait to see Atlantis when it premiers!
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    Re: Invitation for comments...

    What expensive computer graphics software are you using

    same as stargate or different?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thor39
    What expensive computer graphics software are you using

    same as stargate or different?
    It's not about the software it's about he skills
    No, really I'd like to know too.

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    I'm intereseted in the new gate.

    Are the flashy lights practical or visual effects? And does it produce a "kawoosh" when it opens?

    Unfortunatly I haven't seen any visual effects to comment on, so....

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    I want to know too!

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    wow i just want to say that what you are doing is very cool. actually putting the time in to ask for the viewers direct opinions is awesome and not something you eveer really see now adays. i cant wait to see atlantis and i bet it will be amazing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by spg_1983
    wow i just want to say that what you are doing is very cool. actually putting the time in to ask for the viewers direct opinions is awesome and not something you eveer really see now adays. i cant wait to see atlantis and i bet it will be amazing!
    Err, yeah, I meant that too!

    But seriously, you guys have 100% of my support (I'm even gradually converting Shadow ), I trust it will be spectaculor!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teal'c
    (I'm even gradually converting Shadow
    Dream on, Snake Boy.

    I will say that the visual FX is one area where Atlantis is bound to go right. I love FX people. And the props dudes. Still trying to figure out if that was Bear at last year's Gatecon...

    And I miss Dragon.

    But FX, yes, way cool stuff in store, I'm sure.

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    It will be strange not having JimmyT around, but he's doing amazing things. Pretty big shoes to fill. I have every confidence that you and the teams of SF wizards will put together amazingly wonderful shots. The kind that one may not even realize are CG!

    Nmom

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    Mark,

    Welcome to the forum and I know we all look forward to being able to ask questions and comment more intelligently once Atlantis starts airing. I have learned a lot from hearing James Tichenor's commentary on the DVD's, especially regarding visual effects that I never realized were...well....effects. I'm thrilled that you're interested in interacting with the fans as vfx have become such a big part of every scifi show.

    I checked out your website and you have some interesting features. I enjoyed the interview with Jimmy T. very much. I see you have a green/blue (screen) debate over there as well.

    I'm looking forward to seeing how you guys are going to differentiate Atlantis from SG-1. I've already seen some of the still shots of the gate, the ships and it "feels" different. Can't wait to see the new bells and whistles and variations you bring to the project.
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    vfxsoup if you'd be so helpful and gave us a direct link to the STARGATE ATLANTIS special effects, that we can comment on, otherwise you'r post is an advertising and should be GONE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newbie
    vfxsoup if you'd be so helpful and gave us a direct link to the STARGATE ATLANTIS special effects, that we can comment on, otherwise you'r post is an advertising and should be GONE
    Why don't you step back from your computer, take a deep breath, and try SMILING for a moment? Would you attack Joe Mallozzi if he came on and advertised his blog just because it isn't on an MGM or SCIFI site? Yeesh. And I thought I was bad!

    I will say that the post is probably better suited to the Atlantis folder, but unless or until I have evidence that vfx is lying, I'm gonna go ahead and believe him and be grateful that he's willing to spend some time with the fans.

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    well the thing is the first sentances are
    I'm the visual effects supervisor for Atlantis and wanted to invite you to post me comments on the show's effects. I'm looking for constructive comments that help me understand how people who are watching the show for the first time see what we've created.
    and i haven't seen much Atlantis effects SO FAR, and i don't see anything on the site...so without a direct link i DO NOT BELIVE, and concider it SPAM, SRY!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newbie
    well the thing is the first sentances are and i haven't seen much Atlantis effects SO FAR, and i don't see anything on the site...so without a direct link i DO NOT BELIVE, and concider it SPAM, SRY!!!
    I only looked at the site in a cursory manner, but I did read the interview with James Tichenor and comments from J.Tichenor in the forum. That is what led me to believe that Mr. Breakspear is indeed who he says he is. I doubt Mr. Tichenor would give an interview to someone who was running around the internet saying he was vfx supervisor for Atlantis when he wasn't.

    Also saw Mark Breakspear listed on the team who won a Gemini for best visual effects (for Stargate SG-1) in 2003 so certainly seems plausible that Mark Breakspear got the nod to head up the vfx team for Atlantis.


    http://www.geminiawards.ca/gemini18/...ominations.PDF


    2003 AWARDS RESULTS
    James Tichenor (Visual Effects Producer) Shannon Gurney (Visual Effects Coordinator) Craig Van Den Biggelaar(Senior Digital Effects Supervisor) Kevin Little (Digital Effects Supervisor) Mark Breakspear (Lead Compositor) Robin Hackl (Lead Compositor) Adam de Bosch Kemper (Lead Animator) Krista McLean (Lead CGI Artist)
    For the episode "Revelations
    Last edited by Kes; May 11th, 2004 at 09:07 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Newbie
    well the thing is the first sentances are and i haven't seen much Atlantis effects SO FAR, and i don't see anything on the site...so without a direct link i DO NOT BELIVE, and concider it SPAM, SRY!!!
    I'm not sure why not having a link is spam or advertising when surely it would be the other way around?

    Rest assured that any spam posts are quickly sorted out by the mods here at GW. If any do pass us by, just drop us an email and we'll very quickly get it sorted out.

    Darren has all sorts of wonderful and magical ways of checking the identity of anyone posting here. Mark has posted at GateWorld before, in our old forum home of Delphi, and I've got no reason at all to suspect that he might not be the real deal. I'd say I'm as sure as I can be that he's who he says he is.

    But of course you're always right to be sceptical. It is possible for anyone to pose as anyone on the internet. I'd suggest that, even if you're quite sure they're not genuine, you still continue to treat them with the same respect you'd extend to any other poster. Sure, call them on the scam if you think one is being perpetuated, but don't attack them. After all, they could be genuine, as is the case here.


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    It's very sad that this thread went this way. It's pretty insulting too. I was hoping to gleem some useful insights from you guys in order to make the show better, but can see that certain members here are more interetsed in other things.

    I'm sorry to have wasted my time and this forums time.

    Mark Breakspear
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    I am so sorry that there have been some less than polite posts and that it has made you uncomfortable. Please believe that the majority of us are thrilled that you have taken the time out of your, I'm sure, extremely busy schedule to post here. I find it wonderful that you're taking the time to get our feedback and are interested in what the fans have to say. I'm sorry that you've had a negative experience but I truly hope you won't let a small minority keep you from posting here in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vfxsoup
    It's very sad that this thread went this way. It's pretty insulting too. I was hoping to gleem some useful insights from you guys in order to make the show better, but can see that certain members here are more interetsed in other things.
    Welcome to fandom. Finding out that not ALL fans are Happy Shiny People can be very upsetting the first time it happens. The trick is to learn how to take the bad as well as the good and parse out anything extraneous or overly negative... which will probably include a lot of my posts.

    Hope you won't let the experience ruin it for the rest of us. Like I said, the VFX is one area where I have no qualms about the spinoff. VFX, props, David Hewlett (as long as they make McKay three-dimensional), and Joe Flanigan. Those're my reasons to look forward to the show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vfxsoup
    It's very sad that this thread went this way. It's pretty insulting too. I was hoping to gleem some useful insights from you guys in order to make the show better, but can see that certain members here are more interetsed in other things.

    I'm sorry to have wasted my time and this forums time.

    Mark Breakspear
    Visual Effects Supervisor
    Atlantis
    Sorry you got that, Mark, I hope you'll hang around a bit more and see that most of us don't SHOUT all the time (except when we're being nasty mods) and that we are more than a little piqued and interested in anything Atlantis related.

    To anyone who was less than polite: If that's not how you behave to people in RL, please don't do it here.

    If that IS how you behave to people in RL... well, I have thoughts about that but probably this isn't the place.

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