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    Quote Originally Posted by corey2002
    all in all the ep was cool but it was a bit slow-it was a clip/recapping/whatever "Politics" was kind of ep. it was still cool though
    No need for spoiler tags in this thread, as long as the info is about this episode.

    IMO, the clips were fairly innocuous, the difference probably being the voiceovers from various characters as the clips were playing. We still got a significant chunk of new material, so much that it didn't feel like the typical clip show. A lot better than "Politics".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brendan
    I give this episode 2 out of 4. I hate flashback episodes. HATE THEM!! They're filler that's all they are. The stuff Rodney videotaped was pretty funny and the one part where Weir is talking and they play the Atlantis theme with a montage was nice but again, I hate flashback episodes.
    As a clip show, I rate it 4/4 -- best clip show I've seen. As a stand-alone ep, I'd still rate it 3/4, the only real negative being I thought the episode ended too quickly. I would have loved to see more of that new Wraith beam or closer encounters with the armada. Also would have liked to see more at the SGC end, receiving the transmission.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brendan
    Oh well. I'm glad they got a letter home and I was a bit annoyed that all Amanda Tappings cameo was was just her sitting down and saying one line. Lame.
    Yeah, I would have liked to have seen more of AT too, but that's the definition of "cameo".

    We should be more annoyed at the producers for leading us on by listing her name first amongst the episode guest stars, even ahead of Paul McGillion and he's practically a regular cast member!
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    I really loved this episode. Both for it's emotions and story, as well as SFX.

    As I love the Wraith. The first, and only, race so far that knows how you really fight in space. A mothership with 100s of Darts and a few smaller support ships. No wonder the Ancients lost the war, they are fighting a race 100% dedicated to warfare.

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    Finally, we get to see evidence of Wraith Tech in action...that they've mastered hyperdrive technology too. Here's an interesting idea. If the expedition team is low on power, wouldn't it behoove them to try and study other alternative forms of energy other than the ZPMs. Generators to fuel hyperdrive technology give massive outputs of energy. How about studying the Wraith Hive ship that crashed in the episode The Defiant One? Maybe using a different generator source, one could potentially reap advantages that were previously unavailable to them. After all, the naquadah generators they have now are tied into the city's secondary and primary systems.
    McKAY: Well, you wouldn’t know that from this, would you? This might as well say, “Bing tiddle tiddle bong.” It’s complete gibberish!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aAnubiSs
    I really loved this episode. Both for it's emotions and story, as well as SFX.

    As I love the Wraith. The first, and only, race so far that knows how you really fight in space. A mothership with 100s of Darts and a few smaller support ships. No wonder the Ancients lost the war, they are fighting a race 100% dedicated to warfare.
    I agree, it was enjoyable from beginning to end.

    I'd have to disagree with you about the Wraith though. The Goa'uld System Lords also have armadas, though
    Spoiler:
    Anubis' fleet was probably the most impressive of theirs
    [spoiler for SG-1 S7].

    The Ancients lost because (a) they were out-numbered; (b) they were over-confident in their own way of life and technology that they never imagined the existence of something like the Wraith; and (c) they thought they could negotiate with the Wraith.

    Quote Originally Posted by kryon22
    Finally, we get to see evidence of Wraith Tech in action...that they've mastered hyperdrive technology too. Here's an interesting idea. If the expedition team is low on power, wouldn't it behoove them to try and study other alternative forms of energy other than the ZPMs. Generators to fuel hyperdrive technology give massive outputs of energy. How about studying the Wraith Hive ship that crashed in the episode The Defiant One? Maybe using a different generator source, one could potentially reap advantages that were previously unavailable to them. After all, the naquadah generators they have now are tied into the city's secondary and primary systems.
    An excellent point. If the writers/producers could pull something useful from that Wraith wreckage, then it won't feel quite like those two scientists died in vain.
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    I suppose that when you factor in how the two different societies operate, it seems a lot more impressive for the Wraith. The Goa'uld are a feudal society. The Wraith operate as a hive. When a race marches as one to war (and in this case, dinner), the results are pretty jaw dropping.

    What I also liked about this episode was how they portrayed Dr Weir and how she was gradually coming to grips with the mantle of leadership of a group that has both civilian and military leanings. If you just look at the evolution of the character (never mind that it was tossed between two actresses), it's remarkable how she went from staring gawky at the SGC gate to staring down the Genii.
    McKAY: Well, you wouldn’t know that from this, would you? This might as well say, “Bing tiddle tiddle bong.” It’s complete gibberish!

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    Hello there all, spoilers for 8X12 and 8X17. You'll have to excuse me as I don't know the spoil tag.

    SPOILERS..






    I just quickly wanna comment on the whole "salvaging of the wraith ship". Presumably, the Wraith had been there for 10000 years. He mentioned that he fed on "my crew" so he was probably the Commander/Captain etc. If he couldn't repair the ship, including hyperdrive, in over 10000 years (even though he hibernated a lot) I don't think anyone on Atlantis could do anything. Even if they salavaged a hyperdrive and fixed it, what exactly would they do with it?

    Onto the episode. Awesome. Emotional. It didn't feel like it was a clips show. Being someone of Czech Nationality, I really appreciated Zilinka's scene, it was really powerful with those Rising clips. Cheers to everyone of the production team. 3/4 for a gateworld rating IMO, and 4/4 for my personal opinion.









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    Well, I was thinking actually of the generator itself. Sure, they wouldn't be able to use the hyperdrive because they don't have ships large enough, durable enough for hyperspace, but think of what they could do finding an alternative power source...other uses..defence systems, offensive beam weapons for atlantis..etc
    McKAY: Well, you wouldn’t know that from this, would you? This might as well say, “Bing tiddle tiddle bong.” It’s complete gibberish!

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    Clip show? What clip show? There was 2 minutes of clips tops!

    And Markham got a metion. Poor Markham

    It was great to see Dr. Ponytail back (Or Kavanagh if you prefer ) and complaining again. And Zelenka describing the city rising... well, I can only assume that. I'll wait for one of our Czech board members to give us a translation

    I would have liked to see more about the message at the end. Sam only had one line, I was sitting there when it was showing the wormhole clip thinking I had at least another two minutes of show left

    Oh, that Wraith armada was just drool worthy. Nothing beats seeing a giant fleet drop out of hyperspace

    Hopefully we'll hear more about the message in Mobius.

    Oh, and I believe the episode was called Letters From Pegasus, plural.

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    Can someone tell me exactly what Sheppard said?

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    I don't know what to think about the episode. I kinda was hoping that it lasted longer than it did. I wanted to hear what the SGC says about the Atlantis team. Hopefully we will find out in the next episode of Sg-1. The Wraith Ships are so cool looking. And what about Teyla and Shepard. I don't want to see them fighting. I do want to see them kiss and make up.
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    This episode was amazing on so many levels. We had to witness up front the true horror of the Wraith...had to watch helplessly. That was deeply terrifying.

    The conflict between Teyla and Sheppard was a very welcome change. People don't always get along and I'm glad they recognized that. Ford actually got to do something, that's a plus. Weir's tribute to the fallen troops (with particular emphasis on Sgt. Markham) was very moving and poignant.

    Rodney was quite funny, and I absolutely loved the Japanese scientist! She was so cute!

    Strange as it may seem, this was one of my favorite episodes. I wouldn't call this a "clip show." It was more of a reflective show that tried to give us a sense of closure on some of the recent occurances, closure I was yearning for.

    Damn I love Atlantis!!

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    I agree with most of the others above. I wasn't really looking forward to this one thinking it was a clip show. But I absolutely loved it! One minute I was laughing hysterically, the next crying. Back and forth. And the clips probably only made up 5 minutes of the episode.

    I particularly loved Mckay in this episode. (well he is my favourite character)
    His message was the funniest thing I have seen in ages. (And a bit sad in parts) We got all kinds of little tidbits about his past. Plus the new flashbacks with him during the Japanese scientist's message. Hilarious.

    I loved how we saw all the supporting characters' messages as well. I particularly loved Dr. Beckett's and Zelenka's. And wow do I hate Kavanaugh. I'm glad his character is still around because he is so very fun to hate.

    I also couldn't believe that I really liked both Ford and Teyla in this episode. They both had something to do and I think the actors/writers are becoming comfortable with their characters.

    So this was a very (suprisingly) good episode. I can't wait for the next three episodes. They are going to kick ass.

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    This episode was a bit different from the rest of them. In this one the writers seemed to take a bit of a break from the full on action and instead focus on developing the characters further. Its good to see this character development taking place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz Lightyear
    As a clip show, I rate it 4/4 -- best clip show I've seen.
    The only good clip show of ANY tv show, was the first Simpson's clip show in series 4. Everyother clip show has sucked, and for sci-fi such as stargate or atlantis, a clip show just means we need to wait 2 weeks to see what happens next, rather than 1 .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOA
    Well this episode fulfills the yearly stargate tradition: The recap before the big battle.
    I'm sorry, but that is such a shallow viewpoint.

    This episode was far more than a simple re-cap. Yes, by it's very nature it covered ground that we already knew about and had seen, but when it comes to clips episodes, this is the best example of one I've ever seen.

    Letters From Pegasus is an episode that rivals some of the best Atlantis episodes to date. It is filled to the brim with drama, hilarious comedy (done mostly by McKay, who is at the top of his game in this ep) and lots of character interaction and development. The continuity is spot on (seeing Cavanaugh was a big surprise) and the clips were almost non-existent and usually done in montage form or with a voice-over covering them. They were far from the "cut to this episodes" that we've seen in previous Stargate clips shows.

    Letters from Pegasus is a truly outstanding episode and is far, far more than a simple clips episode.

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    great ep, loved it and i agree not a clip show, i've seen longer "last time on buffy the vampire slayer " and other shows then all the clips in this show together.

    as for the armarda, now that is the start of a war going people! shep said something like "each hive ship acts as a carrier group, with cruizers and hundreds of darts escorting it" after each hive ship fell out of hyperspace, 3 cruizers that looked about 1/4 the size of the hive ship detached from the hive and then with hundreds of darts coming out of them. either way from the looks of them, the could have sent 1 hive ship and it could wipe out a planet. we havn't seen the weaponary or tacticle attributes of the hive groups but if they have something better and more organzied then the little energy balls that come out of the darts they might be able to give the gou'ld and maybe even the asgaurd a run for their money (not that we know much about how asgaurd fight any enemy other the the replicators)

    still i wonder what that blue beam was, i hope we find out that it is something more then the obvius. my first thoughts were some kind of weapon or mass transport. but maybe the writers are better then that and making the wraith smarter and the beam is a way to ensure a planets people are all killed, a way of ensureing diversity of the gene pool or focused breading through out the galaxy moving people from one planet to another?

    as for the fight between tayla and sheppard i loved it, i've heard some one say before if u want an interesting story give each side of the argument a valid point of view something that even if u dont agree u can understand where they are coming from and they did. sure we would love to save everyone (like telya was trying) but we need to think of the bigger picture (sheps argument) made me love both charictors more

    great ep, not a clip show

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    Quote Originally Posted by lordvader
    and for sci-fi such as stargate or atlantis, a clip show just means we need to wait 2 weeks to see what happens next, rather than 1 .....
    That is such an unbelievably ignorant and stupid opinion.

    Politics - We got introduced to Kinsey. That's a MAJOR plot line for Stargate.

    Out of Mind - Ok, that sucked...

    Disclosure - We got more of Kinsey's storyline, plust he revealing of the Stargate to some major countries, another big plot line for Stargate (the secrecy of it all).

    Inauguration - We got to mee the new president and got more of Kinsey's storyline and it helped set up the finale (and set up the introduction for Weir).

    And Letters from Pegasus, it wasn't even a damned clips show!

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    Sorry, i interrupt the discussion, but can anybody tell me, when the season finale will be aired.
    At the moment the newest episodes come from "movie central" every monday. But will they air "the siege" the week right after "the gift"?
    or do we have to wait, till another one like Sci-Fi or Sky-One airs this episode?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AsgardCarnage
    still i wonder what that blue beam was, i hope we find out that it is something more then the obvius. my first thoughts were some kind of weapon or mass transport. but maybe the writers are better then that and making the wraith smarter and the beam is a way to ensure a planets people are all killed, a way of ensureing diversity of the gene pool or focused breading through out the galaxy moving people from one planet to another?
    Personally I think they gathered materials for fuel, weapons and other stuff. Having the option to refuel your own carrier group is priceless. Also it would make sense for a race 100% focused on warfare to have this technology.

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