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    Default Why didn't the Ancients return with Atlantis ?

    When Atlantis was under siege from the Wraith the Ancients submerged the city. Why didn't they just use the stardrive to bring Atlantis back to Earth ? (we know from "Before I sleep" that they had 3 fully charged ZPMs when they left the city)

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    Default Re: Why didn't the Ancients return with Atlantis ?

    My guess is that there were tons of Wraith Hiveships in orbit. They would've never made it past them (the stardrive and the shield would have probably drained too much power).

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    Default Re: Why didn't the Ancients return with Atlantis ?

    Plus it would have been really bad for the story lol.

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    Default Re: Why didn't the Ancients return with Atlantis ?

    They couldn't wait 4 days to reach the MW as they REALLY needed to use the Toilet so took the Stargate instead.

    Besides..........Earth now had the second evolution of humans living on it. Where would they park a Giant City?

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    Default Re: Why didn't the Ancients return with Atlantis ?

    Damn Atlantis and it's lack of toilets!

    I guess they could have buried it in the sands of Africa...

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    Default Re: Why didn't the Ancients return with Atlantis ?

    Also, we would be too powerful, and it would conflict with history, because if it was still parked here, we would have ZPM's and we would be a lot advanced by now.
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    Default Re: Why didn't the Ancients return with Atlantis ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aryk Celestis View Post
    My guess is that there were tons of Wraith Hiveships in orbit. They would've never made it past them (the stardrive and the shield would have probably drained too much power).

    Your assumption seems to be based on First Strike when 1 ZPM is in use. When you have 3 ZPMs working in parallel and powering the city, there is plenty of juice for everything. On top of that they had the drilling platform. So, they could have used the First Strike approach to take off and save zpm power. There are tons of inconsistencies in the story. It was shown in S2 that with one ZPM the Wraith need a few days to drain the shield. Add to that two more ZPMs and one genius Janus and bye bye Pegasus. They could have taken Atlantis and passed through the Wraith barricade. Why? They Wraith were not able to penetrate the shield for hundreds of years. Just another Atlantis "plot twist".

    Another aspect where the writers portrayed the Ancients stupid. They dialed Earth and left Pegasus under the assumption that the Wraith will die of old age. They did not think of the millions of lives in the Galaxy. It was such a thrill for the Ancients to find out that humans, one of the dumbest races in the SG universe, now with big guns from the Asgard and Ancients, will wipe out the Wraith . Jeez .
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    Default Re: Why didn't the Ancients return with Atlantis ?

    Quote Originally Posted by RM_2000_A View Post
    Also, we would be too powerful, and it would conflict with history, because if it was still parked here, we would have ZPM's and we would be a lot advanced by now.
    Not necessarily. They could have hidden Atlantis under the Ocean or in Antarctica, like the Outpost. We wouldn't have found the Outpost for many years if it weren't for O'Neill and the Ancient knowledge he had in his mind

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    I meant, we would be powerful enough to pwn all the Gouald in the galaxy in one fell swoop. Which would make the show boring.
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    Default Re: Why didn't the Ancients return with Atlantis ?

    Quote Originally Posted by RM_2000_A View Post
    I meant, we would be powerful enough to pwn all the Gouald in the galaxy in one fell swoop. Which would make the show boring.
    True. But come on... the Ancients must have had at least one good reason to leave Atlantis in Pegaus and not bring it with them (despite appearances)

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    Default Re: Why didn't the Ancients return with Atlantis ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andru10 View Post
    True. But come on... the Ancients must have had at least one good reason to leave Atlantis in Pegaus and not bring it with them (despite appearances)
    The only thing you could think of is that they planned on coming back but something went horribly wrong....
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    Default Re: Why didn't the Ancients return with Atlantis ?

    Why bring a ship with you as extra baggage, that can get destroyed? And where do you plan to dock it? At the buried Antarctic outpost? They would have been smart enough to know that due to geological stuff, it gets buried.
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    Atlantis Meeting. The Atlantis team views a Wraith transmission...
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    Default Re: Why didn't the Ancients return with Atlantis ?

    Quote Originally Posted by RM_2000_A View Post
    I meant, we would be powerful enough to pwn all the Gouald in the galaxy in one fell swoop. Which would make the show boring.
    We did that anyways.

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    Default Re: Why didn't the Ancients return with Atlantis ?

    I meant, all the Gouald. Which means exterminating their species once and for all.
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    :Order evacuation of all unimportant personnel. Raise the shield.
    :The drones are heading towards us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RM_2000_A View Post
    I meant, all the Gouald. Which means exterminating their species once and for all.
    We did that too...exept Ba'al, but he's geting his ass handed to him in Continuum so that's all right.

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    Default Re: Why didn't the Ancients return with Atlantis ?

    We didn't. There are a lot of minor Gouald still hiding, and a few major ones with unknown fates.
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    :Order evacuation of all unimportant personnel. Raise the shield.
    :The drones are heading towards us.
    :Those drones look familiar...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RM_2000_A View Post
    We didn't. There are a lot of minor Gouald still hiding, and a few major ones with unknown fates.
    And yet their ugly littel snake heads will be crushed under a malet of asgard beams and FJN blasts if they ever crawl out form under the rock their hiding under. End result is the same.

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    Default Re: Why didn't the Ancients return with Atlantis ?

    It isn't. The Gouald may be megalomaniac, but they are quite smart. They can amass a fleet without even someone noticing. And if they reveal the fact that the Tauri started the Ori war, things can get worse and bleak for the Tauri. I'm not a Gouald supporter. Just don't underestimate the Gouald.
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    Atlantis Meeting. The Atlantis team views a Wraith transmission...
    :Thanks to us finding a stockpile of drone weapons, we have reverse-engineered them and created an organic version. We are finished with the testing and YOU will be our first target.
    :Order evacuation of all unimportant personnel. Raise the shield.
    :The drones are heading towards us.
    :Those drones look familiar...
    : SQUID?!?
    We are sending eggs so you can make some squid/egg rolls after this. Enjoy!

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    Default Re: Why didn't the Ancients return with Atlantis ?

    Quote Originally Posted by RM_2000_A View Post
    It isn't. The Gouald may be megalomaniac, but they are quite smart. They can amass a fleet without even someone noticing. And if they reveal the fact that the Tauri started the Ori war, things can get worse and bleak for the Tauri. I'm not a Gouald supporter. Just don't underestimate the Gouald.
    Never said I did. BUt they can't go aroudn the galaxy freely anymore.

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    Default Re: Why didn't the Ancients return with Atlantis ?

    They can. They can even embed themselves into an SG teams, and presto! All-access pass for a hostile gouald into the SGC!

    BTW, Don't you know the Gouald has oversized sleeves so they can pull more tricks for the SGC out of it? (joke)
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    Atlantis Meeting. The Atlantis team views a Wraith transmission...
    :Thanks to us finding a stockpile of drone weapons, we have reverse-engineered them and created an organic version. We are finished with the testing and YOU will be our first target.
    :Order evacuation of all unimportant personnel. Raise the shield.
    :The drones are heading towards us.
    :Those drones look familiar...
    : SQUID?!?
    We are sending eggs so you can make some squid/egg rolls after this. Enjoy!

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