The Poison Sky (3005/405)

[Gate-builder]

Speaking of the hand... after all this time, since Last of the Time Lords, it's still sitting under the console in the control room? He doesn't have anywhere else to put it?

That is one thing that I would dearly love to see in new Doctor Who - more of the inside of the TARDIS. In 3+ seasons, all we've ever seen is the control room and a brief glimpse of a wardrobe room. My memories of the classic series are admittedly vague but I seem to recall that on several occasions we saw other rooms within the TARDIS. I want to see more of the TARDIS, dammit!

I can't agree with you more! The thing is massive but the doctor seems to spend all his time in the control room. I would love to see more of the inside of the TARDIS. It has so many other rooms that could be written into an episode somehow.

[ShadowMaat]

How about a good old-fashion "something gets loose in the TARDIS" plot where the Doctor and Donna have to hunt through the TARDIS to find whatever-it-is before it's too late?

[Alipeeps]

How about a good old-fashion "something gets loose in the TARDIS" plot where the Doctor and Donna have to hunt through the TARDIS to find whatever-it-is before it's too late?

Sounds good to me! Or there's something wrong with the TARDIS and it traps them inside and they've got to hunt down what the problem is and fix it.

[huntress]

I don't know how right I am about that, but for me it always seemed as if the Timelords are the upper crust similiar to the patrician families in ancient Rome...at least in a way but unlike in Rome you are not born into the special cast but maybe born with it. Like a genetic abnormality that makes you a timelord. That would explain why Susan was not a Timelord (and no I don't think a woman is called a Timelady, Romana is always refered to as a Timelord not a Timelady) eventhough her grandfather is.

It would also be interesting to know how the folks on Gallifrey reproduce. After all they are not human, so it doesn't mean that they have to reproduce like humans or most mammals on our planet, since they are certainly not from around here.

[Reefgirl]

I'm sure they said in TLotT that Gallifreyan's had to go through some kind of ritual to become Timelords, I'm sure also in one of the books it was said that not every Gallifreyan is a Timelord. Don't quote me on this, it's just what I heard

[dosed150]

i did notice some errors when they were preparing thew nuclear launches, the uk and france dont have land based nuclear missiles, and i cant see north korea allowing an outside organisation any control over its nuclear weapons, if it even has any of note

[Flyboy]

Did they specifically state that the UK and France's missiles were going to be land launched?

I think the point of the scene was that any country, when UNIT called, was ready to fend off the alien whorde and phantasmagoria for the greater good, even if they hadn't signed the NPT or were going completely against it.

[Naonak]

I'm sure they said in TLotT that Gallifreyan's had to go through some kind of ritual to become Timelords, I'm sure also in one of the books it was said that not every Gallifreyan is a Timelord. Don't quote me on this, it's just what I heard

On this topic, in The Deadly Assassin, a bunch of Gallifreyan guards get killed, and none of them regenerate. It'd be odd if they all just happened to be on their final regenerations...

[Alipeeps]

I'm pretty sure (though not so sure as to how canon it is) that it's been stated somewhere that not all Gallifreyans are Time Lords (I have the impression they are like an elite sect within Gallifreyan society). And regarding how Time Lords are born, I know it was referenced somewhere that they are woven on looms (but I believe, from the context, it's not clear whether the Doctor was being serious/telling the truth there).

So there you go. That's about as clear as mud, isn't it?

[Reefgirl]

On this topic, in The Deadly Assassin, a bunch of Gallifreyan guards get killed, and none of them regenerate. It'd be odd if they all just happened to be on their final regenerations...

And on that point, in The Five Doctor's The Valyard (I think) was killed and he didn't regenerate either and he was on the Council, was he in his last regeneration or did he just not bother because of the accusations against him

[Mr Prophet]

And on that point, in The Five Doctor's The Valyard (I think) was killed and he didn't regenerate either and he was on the Council, was he in his last regeneration or did he just not bother because of the accusations against him

That was the Castellan. I think the general assumption (well, certainly mine) is that stasers is special.

[docballen]

In Leela's last episode she affiliates herself with "shebogans" who are Gallifreyans who are decidedly not Time Lords. They do not regenerate.

The Doctor also mentioned being a graduate of the "Prydonian Academy"-- there are also PAxtrexian and Arcalian Academies too. (He wears a specific color of robes to reflect this fact.)

I had an idea for a fan fic where we meet the parents of a Time Lord... my theory was that each parent had to "give up" a regeneration during the act of creating the baby... to give it the two hearts.

A Time Lord also has something called The Rassilon Imprimature (See "The Two Doctors") which helps them control their TArdises (without it they would die in the time vortex... ala Chessene)

[Reefgirl]

That was the Castellan. I think the general assumption (well, certainly mine) is that stasers is special.

Yes you're right now I think of it, it was The Castellan. Are the Valyard and the Castellan honoury title's like Lord Privy Councellor?

[dosed150]

Did they specifically state that the UK and France's missiles were going to be land launched?

I think the point of the scene was that any country, when UNIT called, was ready to fend off the alien whorde and phantasmagoria for the greater good, even if they hadn't signed the NPT or were going completely against it.

well when they said uk and france all the dots were in land

[The_Carpenter]

Yes you're right now I think of it, it was The Castellan. Are the Valyard and the Castellan honoury title's like Lord Privy Councellor?

The Valyard was meant to be an evil version of the Doctor created between his 12th and 13th regeneration's. Don't know about the Castellan

well when they said uk and france all the dots were in land

Likely the bases supplying targeting data, as others either here or at DWF have suggested

[Mr Prophet]

The Castellan is the head of the Chancellery Guard; effectively the Gallifreyan head of security. Although actual names such as Chancellor Flavia and Lord President Barusa emerge further in, initially the High Council are known only by title of office. Like the renegades (the Doctor, the Master, the Monk, the Rani, the War Lord) they are definite articles (the Castellan, the Chancellor, the President).

[Reefgirl]

The Castellan is the head of the Chancellery Guard; effectively the Gallifreyan head of security. Although actual names such as Chancellor Flavia and Lord President Barusa emerge further in, initially the High Council are known only by title of office. Like the renegades (the Doctor, the Master, the Monk, the Rani, the War Lord) they are definite articles (the Castellan, the Chancellor, the President).

Right

[Merlin's_Legacy]

A Time Lord also has something called The Rassilon Imprimature (See "The Two Doctors") which helps them control their TArdises (without it they would die in the time vortex... ala Chessene)

This fact sort of bugs me.... If one has to have the Rassilon Imprimature in order to "not die" in the time vortex, then how the heck are all the companions able to survive without it? Has that ever been explained?

[docballen]

This fact sort of bugs me.... If one has to have the Rassilon Imprimature in order to "not die" in the time vortex, then how the heck are all the companions able to survive without it? Has that ever been explained?

Dr 6 said something along the lines of "I just primed it" which means he fixed the time capsule for one trip... and the imprimature would wear out or expire after one short trip... which is what the Sontaran sent Peri on.

It has something to do with the Doctor permanently being a part of his TARDIS... I think... I can't find my copy of "The TWo Doctors" so I'm stuck going by memory... sigh...

(I think it means that there is a permanent bond between a Time Lord and his/her TARDIS that extends its protection to passengers too.)

[Mamid]

Spoiler:

Maybe his daughter was born to a human woman, not necessarily Rose.

*waves hand in the air Jedi style...* the 90's movie did NOT happen. Doctor is 100% Gallifreyan!

Spoiler:

Maybe they have children the same way we do, but only special ones get to look into the vortex. and those that do, no matter where they are in their class status on Gallifrey become Timelords. Or, upon looking into the vortex, their reaction gives them their status. The wrong reaction, and you are not a Timelord. So since Gallifrey isn't supposed to be around anymore, she can't and so she won't be a Timelord.

Spoiler:

I think she might be Romana's daughter too. That would Rock. I just don't want her to be a clone.