'The Ark of Truth' General Discussion

[mrscopterdoc]

I am actually of the opposite minds as I find Ark of Truth a superior movie compared to Continuum. I really like how the Ori arc was spread out and resolved in this episode. From the killing the village Prior on Dakara to the tricking of Adria on Celestus I was on the edge of my seat. It was very entertaining to see the search for the Ark and the subsquent torture that came with the Ark. I especially liked the return of Morgan as I think it was an important plotline that needed to be completed. If their is one compliant its that Teal'c didn't do a whole lot but I guess that has been a problem since S1. Although now that I think about it the Ori attack on Earth seemed kind of pointless as it did exactly nothing for the whole movie but I did like the battle of words Landry had with the one eyed Prior. He has always been good at that. The Replicator on the Odyssey may have been kind of pointless but I liked it because it did some things new most specfically the the Replicator that had a human shape but was not a human form Replicator. That was different and interesting. The sad part was the solution to the Replicators was anti-climatic and I have a hard time believing the Odyssey could last so long with the Ori attacking even with a ZPM attached to the ship

I agree. I like this movie the better of the two.

[Coco Pops]

I'm agreeing here too.

Ark Of Truth was way better then Continuum

[Snowman37]

Ark of Truth was a good movie in that it resolved the Ori saga. However, it had two major letdowns. The Ori ships sat there on the outer edge of the solar system. I thought they were going to attack Earth? The Odyssey took the same pounding that destroyed an entire fleet of starships in the episode "Camelot." Eh? Adria's stopped by a magic box of truth? She was basically stopped by a flashlight. The table fell down in slow motion. Why didn't she catch it with her telekinetic powers that she used numerous times in the series?

Continuum didn't suffer from these problems. The Goa'uld actually attacked Earth, and we saw the bombardment from space plus a few glimpses from Earth's point of view. Ba'al was stopped in a believable way. Quetesh killed him out of distrust, and then her Jaffa killed SG-1, though Mitchell managed to slip away to 1929. Dying Teal'c drops a grade, killing everyone, to ensure no one follows Mitchell back in time. Come 1939, Ba'al shows up from 2008 only to be gunned down by an older Mitchell who'd been waiting for ten years. The look on Ba'al's face just before he collapses is priceless.

Both movies were fun to watch, but The Ark of Truth suffered from too many questions of why this or that didn't happen.

[Coco Pops]

But for me Continuum opens up a whole bunch of other questions. Like how conveniently history follows its old path after Ba'al is killed in 1939 only to see the ending of the movie and Ba'al again but this time the symbiote is removed. Mind you this scene I felt really sorry for the guy now he has to come to terms with 1000s of years of what he had been forced to do.... But for me I keep asking how is he there in the present if he was killed in the past? Isn't that in itself a paradox that Mitchell has created?

I did like the SG10 thing at the very end showing that indeed this is an alternate timeline.

[Snowman37]

To alleviate confusion, SG-1 has always portrayed history as alterable. The show has also portrayed a time traveler to the past as exempt from any changes to the future he came from. In 2008, there are two Ba'al's. The last clone is going to be extracted from his cloned host. The real Ba'al travels back in time to 1939. Presumably, he finds and kills his 1939 counterpart, taking his place. Fast forward to 2008. Quetesh kills Ba'al out of distrust. Mitchell escapes back in time to 1929, waiting ten years for Ba'al to show up. When Ba'al arrives from 2008, he's killed by Mitchell. Fast forward to 2008. The real Ba'al travels back in time to 1939 only to be killed by Mitchell. Meanwhile, the clone's extraction goes uninterrupted.

Make sense now?

[Coco Pops]

To alleviate confusion, SG-1 has always portrayed history as alterable. The show has also portrayed a time traveler to the past as exempt from any changes to the future he came from. In 2008, there are two Ba'al's. The last clone is going to be extracted from his cloned host. The real Ba'al travels back in time to 1939. Presumably, he finds and kills his 1939 counterpart, taking his place. Fast forward to 2008. Quetesh kills Ba'al out of distrust. Mitchell escapes back in time to 1929, waiting ten years for Ba'al to show up. When Ba'al arrives from 2008, he's killed by Mitchell. Fast forward to 2008. The real Ba'al travels back in time to 1939 only to be killed by Mitchell. Meanwhile, the clone's extraction goes uninterrupted.

Make sense now?

Uuum yeah...

I still felt sorry for him after the extraction, clone or not. He still had all the same memories and such of 1000s of years of whatever he had done under the influence of the host.

[the fifth man]

I really need to watch this movie again soon. It has been too long.

[LtColCarter]

I really need to watch this movie again soon. It has been too long.

Same here....

[gatechick]

I hope I can ask this here, because I hate to start a whole new thread for 1 lame question. But does anyone have the link to a youtube video that has the scene where they crew goes through the supergate, you see them in the wormhole and then you hear a big clinking sound and SG-1 is goners? It was a joke scene but I cannot find it for the life of me.

But at least to stay on topic, I thought the movie was just okay. It felt more like an episode than a feature film. But why was Adria red? Was it merely to denote she was evil?